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Qualrath
Adventuring Hero
Kokonut's zealot
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posted April 25, 2006 06:50 PM |
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Poll Question:
Evolution of the DUNGEON
For the first, I will explain that I use HoMM3 names of towns 
Dungeon represents shadow, assasination and dark, chaos magic. It's favourite town of many players.
Heroes of Might and Magic I:
Warlock was the 'Evil' town of magic in HoMM I. It had creatures which later 'Turned to the Light Side'(Centaurs, Gargoyles, Griffins) or moved to another town (Hydras). It also had character that in HoMM II changed his profession and 'survived' till HoMM IV (Sandro)
Creatures: Centaur, Gargoyle, Griffin, Minotaur, Griffin, Dragon. For details, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes1/warlockcreatures.shtml
Heroes: Agar, Arie, Barok, Crodo, Falagar, Kastore, Sandro(Yes! ), Vesper, Wrathmont. For portraits, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes1/magicheroes.shtml
Heroes of Might and Magic II:
HoMM II Warlock was nearly the same as the HoMM I, but it no longer had Sandro, who moved to new, Necropolis town. HoMM II Warlock also had creature that could be upgraded two times(!). This creature was Dragon, which wasn't alone anymore. Green Dragon - Red Dragon - Black Dragon.
Creatures: Centaur, Gargoyle, Griffin, Minotaur(upgrade - Minotaur King), Hydra, Green Dragon [upgrade - Red Dragon (upgrade - Black Dragon)]. For details, see : http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes2/warlockcreatures.shtml
Heroes: Agar, Arie, Barok, Crodo, Falagar, Kastore, Vesper, Wrathmont.
Heroes of Might and Magic III:
Yes! It was finally named 'Dungeon'! All creatures are now upgradeable, which is normal in HoMM III. But what's with the dragons? Yes, they still exist on this world, just Green Dragons left Warlocks. Some of them got to the woods, where lived hidden Gold dragons. Together with them, they allied with elves. Some Green Dragons landed in Deyia. Necromancers improved Skeletal Dragons with them, and then, uh... Let's just return to Dungeon, okay? So, Warlocks also lost Griffins, Gargoyles, Hydras and Centaurs. They decided to create new creatures, able to live in the underground. Even Medusas allied with them. And Poof! Chocap... Erm, Dungeon 
Creatures(unupgraded - upgraded):
Troglodyte - Infernal Troglodyte
Harpy - Harpy Hag
Beholder - Evil Eye
Medusa - Medusa Queen
Minotaur - Minotaur King
Manticore - Scorpicore
Red Dragon - Black Dragon (+ WoG - Darkness Dragon)
For details, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/creaturesdungeon.shtml
Heroes:
-Might: Ajit, Arlach, Dace, Damacon, Gunnar, Lorelei, Shakti, Synca.
-Magic: Alamar, Darkstorn, Deemer, Geon, Jaegar, Jeditte, Malekith, Sepinroth. For details, see:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3/heroesdungeon.shtml
Heroes of Might and Magic IV:
On the swamps of Axeoth, the Asylum grows stronger. It has Efreeti, Orcs, Trolls, Nightmares, Rogues, even Hydras returned! Creatures are slow, but very powerful, and heroes can deal great damage with their spells. Nothing will be normal from now...
Creatures: Bandit, Orc, Medusa, Minotaur, Efreet, Nightmare, Black Dragon, Hydra. For details, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes4/creatures_chaos.shtml
Heroes:
-Might: Ajit, Calistar, Dace, Flaym, Gruezak, Gundross, Hafir, Kardd, Madmarik, Nazibar, Rufus, Runagark, Aidan, Adria, Erica Fade, Flaren, Gretchin, Hoogula, Jael, Kineta, Lorelei, Octavia, Sizz, Tacitia, Valynne. For details, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes4/heroes_thieves.shtml
-Magic: Ajwar, Charzir, Darkstorm, Iboz, Jeddite, Kaspar, Maddox, Mastero, Norzok, Ritzil, Scorage, Uvodd, Xyron, Aathea, Atella, Helice, Isa, Mayweda, Mered, Nefafareen, Pythia, Raona, Sephinroth, Yorpix, Yoru. For details, see:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes4/heroes_sorcerers.shtml
Heroes of Might and Magic V:
Dungeon also exists in Ashan! Here assasination and shadows are ordinary. There are Shadow Elves, Hydras and Dragons here!
Creatures (unupgraded - upgraded):
Scout - Assasin
Fury - Blood Fury
Minotaur - Minotaur King
Raider - Ravager
Hydra - Chaos Hydra
Matron - Matriarch
Deep Dragon - Black Dragon For details, see: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/dungeon_creatures.shtml
Heroes: Eruina, Kythra, Lethos, Raelag (Ekhm... Agrael??), Segref, Shadya, Sinitar, Sorgal, Vayshan, Yrbeth, Yrwanna.
So... Keep voting, as in previous two threads!
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Shenjairo
Known Hero
Simsalabim
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posted April 25, 2006 08:02 PM |
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I haven't played any beta so have had no chance to play with the dungeon town in heroes 5 yet, so I'll have to vote for heroes 2. I played that in hotseat mode so much with my friends in my early teens and I just love it. The athmosphere is perfect and that town feels like home. Heroes 3 is so cluttered and the only good thing about heroes 4 is that the things are in the same place in every town so you can find it easily, but they all suck for athmosphere. We all had a different favorite town so we just stuck with those for the most part.
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ratmonky
Famous Hero
Abu Hur Ibn Rashka
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posted April 29, 2006 06:54 PM |
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Again h2. no need to explain, simply h2 graphics are superior to the rest. h5 dungeon doesn't look like a town at all. h3 is very good, h1 and h4 are ok.
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Dies illa, dies irae,
Calamitatis et miseriae.
Requiem aeternum
Dona eis, dona eis Domine.
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zebellah
Hired Hero
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posted April 29, 2006 07:47 PM |
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omg heroes 5 is more than a game. look at beautiful sculpture or building whatever.My vote is for Heroes 5.
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kookastar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted April 29, 2006 10:47 PM |
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I loved the H2 one, but it will be nice to see the 'film' of the H5 one too. After that though, I think the insides of the towns become less interesting (that is you just click on the popups). That's just my HO.
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Fofa
Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
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posted April 29, 2006 11:22 PM |
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I don't know which is my favourite. I love the HoMM 2 and 5 designs, first one being old nostalgia and the second one being the reign of Dark Elves.
Although I have a little thing against the HoMM 5 statue because when some idiot saw me look at it, he said I was looking at porn. 
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ComradeX
Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
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posted May 01, 2006 01:10 PM |
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First of all, nice job with the thread, I hope there will be one for other towns as well. (The Barbs are next I suppose, as they are the only ones that were here from the start and don't have a thread of this king yet... ).
Now about the Dungeon... I am a "good" oriented player, and never liked the Dungeon, but of all the "traditional" (HOMM 1 - 4) Dungeons I think that the HOMM II one is the best, like many other towns (love that game!). It has evolved a lot (like all other towns) from HOMM I, and just lookes great! the backround and the whole dark barren land scenary fit the Dungeon well, the town looks grim, and the creatures look as realistic as the graphic engine allows... the creatures are still powerfull like in HOMM I
So it's just what it should be IMO...
HOMM III Dungeon is very different, and I don't realy like the whole underground theme, and lack of old creatures, I just don't think that is the Dungeon style (well a Dungeon is suppose to be under ground...) as a Warlock town. HOMM III Dungeon is just to strange for me...
HOMM IV Chaos just plain sucks IMO, no need to explain.
My vote goes to HOMM V. Although I haven't played the game yet, it looks, sound and feels (story - race wise) great. The new Dark Elf concept is a nice idea, and breathes new life into the faction. I just love the radical change in the town and the whole attitude of the Elves... that's my choice...
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The frozen land of red Titans wishes you luck in your journeys
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TitaniumAlloy
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Professional
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posted May 01, 2006 03:51 PM |
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Well I gotta go with H3 because I think it's more or less thought out the best, as in put creatures with a similar goal together, besides from H5 which does that to the other extreme: the creatures in the town are so similar that three of them are basically the same thing with different clothes on!
BTW nice job with this type of thread, I hadn't checked the Altar in a while cool idea. 
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John says to live above hell.
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Meph
Adventuring Hero
Rampaging Rampart
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posted May 06, 2006 01:30 PM |
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I really love the Hydra in this town. And I prefer it being in a swamp as in some murky pond (HoMM IV anyone?) I just love how the HoMM II one has a real swampy feeling over it, it feels really sinister especially compared to the other towns.
This is also so in the battles. And thus, my vote goes to II.
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jlewlotr
Hired Hero
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posted May 11, 2006 12:15 AM |
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I was torn between 5 and 2, but my vote went to 2 for the nostalgia, and the fact that dragons were the only creature you could ever upgrade twice. I love the green, red and black series. 5 looks pretty awesome and unique. I think its cool how the dwellings are built into the stalactites. One problem I have is with the whole s&m/dominatrix theme with the witches and matriarchs. Other than that though, it's great.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 12, 2006 01:36 AM |
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Multiple Upgrades
Bring back the multiple upgrades of Heroes II. I think it was a great way to make it more difficult for players to have the really strong creatures (black dragons) because they needed to upgrade twice. It would work beautifully with the chromatic dragons (white-green-blue-red-black), metallic dragons (brass, copper, silver, gold) and other dragons (amethyst, emarald, ruby, saphire, diamond to give an example) and also with the golems (stone, iron, gold, diamond).
Anyway, I think the H5 dungeon looks stunning. The new graphics totally wow me, and I have to vote for that one.
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What will happen now?
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sick_46_boy
Known Hero
*Lord of the bones*
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posted May 12, 2006 07:20 PM |
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Oh my godI think theat this renovation is one of the best.This is for me the best town in the all heroes and like "alcibiades" sey the H5 dungeon looks stunning and breathtaking,it is so nice thet is now on my background at comp.In the h1,h2,h3,h4, dungeon was my worst town butt now it is other story.
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Once I used to be what you are now! And you will become what I am!"
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