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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted April 26, 2006 07:48 PM
Edited by leoest at 12:09, 04 May 2006.

Heroes V Expansion Pack Suggestion!

I am new here,but well,heroes v is probaly going to have expansion packs! What should be in them? You can suggest in this thread.
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friendofgunnar
friendofgunnar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
able to speed up time
posted April 26, 2006 09:25 PM

One idea I've been pushing for a long time to anybody who'll listen is a fully editable AI.  Not just something where you can tweak the parameters but something where you can go in and create your own sub-loops and priority lists.

The way I envision it is that people would create their own AI's and then trade them on the internet.  There would be separate AI's for both the battle and the strategic maps.  People could then mix and match and improve on ones that they liked.  Also people might develop different battlefield AI's depending on the hero and the creatures in the army.

The final result is that the AI would be something that would evolve through time.  Somebody who beats the game consistently might set it aside and then come back a few years later and find the game returning the favor.
And then when somebody loses whoever created that particular AI can include their own little PwN message, like:

You have been mauled by the Spankmaster.  Bendeth thee over!

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Fofa
Fofa


Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
posted April 27, 2006 01:32 AM
Edited by Fofa on 26 Apr 2006

They should make the Necropolis army more powerful. I don't really play or like the undead very much, but seeing the poor Shadow Dragon makes me want to reapply the Incorpreal ability they had in beta testing (increased stats woudn't hurt either). Same for the Wraith.

Edit: I also think they need more spells. But that's just me.

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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted April 27, 2006 01:55 PM

Good ideas,and yes,the game needs more spells.What could be the name and major content of the first expansion pack?

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friendofgunnar
friendofgunnar


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Legendary Hero
able to speed up time
posted April 28, 2006 07:47 AM

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What could be the name and major content of the first expansion pack?


Wrath of the Minotaurs

heh heh sorry, that's just my axe to grind.

It's going to depend on whatever new factions are included in it.  I'm predicting all the Orcs that rebelled and were expelled are going to be sweeping in from the wastelands.

how about:
"From the Forgotten Wastelands"


or maybe it'll just be a cliche like "War of the mighty"







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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted April 28, 2006 04:13 PM

both are very good ,new factions are needed and orcs are a really good idea,i liked them in heroes III.Keep posting!

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

Disgraceful

posted April 28, 2006 06:25 PM

Conflux and orc fractions, some new heroes, new netral creatures and new artifacts.
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friendofgunnar
friendofgunnar


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able to speed up time
posted April 28, 2006 07:10 PM

I'm hoping for lots and lots of neutral creatures.  When you're building a map all the neutrals really expand your storytelling possibilities.

also the reason I'm so wrapped up in this thread is because by the time the expansions come out I may finally be able to afford a new computer.  
For most people here H5 comes out in a month, for me it's more like a year and a half.

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Gnoll_Mage
Gnoll_Mage


Responsible
Supreme Hero
posted April 28, 2006 08:46 PM

I'd like to see a Dwarf faction at some point, plus a Fortress rehash wouldn't go amiss. What I'd also quite like to see is a `new` town - not necessarily all new creatures, but a new theme or unifying concept maybe, with a little originality. Just not too original.
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Lich_King
Lich_King


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted April 29, 2006 01:49 AM

I would expect 2 add ons with 2 different faction featuring their story and related campaigns with other factions. The last addon could be a slight introduction to Homm VI if any. Ah the factions.... Mostly I would like to see Dwarves with steamtech on Snow terrain in the Ist expansion and Nagas with lizardmen on watery living swamp for second expansion.
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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted April 29, 2006 11:19 AM

i always liked the nagas and the conflux... now they are gone i would like them back in the first expansion pack.and yes the fortress was a good idea too

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

Disgraceful

posted April 29, 2006 12:47 PM

Quote:
Quote:
i always liked the nagas and the conflux... now they are gone i would like them back in the first expansion pack.and yes the fortress was a good idea too

Zehir (Campaign Hero):
"Excitable, headstrong, and energetic are the sorts of words the older Mages use to describe Zehir. He chose to master elemental magic, figuring (correctly) that if he could control beings as fickle and powerful as elementals he would be well prepared for any magical struggle.Though the title First of the Circle was granted to the young Mage in the hopes of staving off political infighting during a crisis, the other wizards of the Circle quickly realized that it was only a matter of time before Zehir's skills surpassed theirs - time that is more likely to be measured in months than in years."

Maby HE will summon the new Conflux! But who knows?
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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted May 01, 2006 03:54 PM

yes he could summon the conflux,it consists mainly of elementals...more ideas?

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ComradeX
ComradeX


Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
posted May 02, 2006 11:38 AM

Personaly, I think that there should be severak things in the expansions:
)More towns like Barbarians, Reptilian people, Orcs, Dwarves, ect.
)Connections to the past: magic is limitless, and so are the ancients. There must be some connections to the past. Some of the old Heroes must be back!
)Like FriendOfGunnar mentioned, costumable AI will be an interesting feature.
)Balancing: there must be some balancing as there are troops and abilities that sound good on paper, but are not that good in practice. For instance the incorporeal ability, or the summoning ability of the Devil. Like Fofa said, there is some work to do on the Undead.
Well, I guess that's enough for now, if anything comes to my mind I shal post it...
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hellwitch
hellwitch


Known Hero
Skeleton Ruler
posted May 02, 2006 01:59 PM

I want Random maps!!!!!

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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted May 04, 2006 12:07 PM

nice ideas,i especially like the ideas of more towns and random mapsbut the name of the expansion pack

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ComradeX
ComradeX


Known Hero
Demands raising new Titan's HP
posted May 04, 2006 01:02 PM

Another thing that I consider imperative is spells. As for now, there are less then 50 spells and that is not enough IMO. I think there should be at least 20 spells for each spell school (maybe 15 adventure), and not 10 or so like it is now. Just look how many spells were in each school in HOMM III or even HOMM IV (spells were one of the only good points of this game).
About the name, it depends what will be the themes of the expansion packs. If there will be returning old heroes, a name like "Rise Of The Phoenix" may do, although it is a bit chliche. Even a stupid name like "A Blast From The Past" will be good (just kidding ).
If there will be other factions like Barbarians or Orcs the name might be "Return Of The Beasts" or "Revenge Of The Wasteland".
If a Forge like town will be introduced, the pack can be named "The Future Is Now" or "A Leap In Time".
A good - for - all - situations name for an expansion pack can be "Secrets Of The Lost Realms" or "Wrath Of The Dragon Gods".
If there will be an expansion dealing with the return of the secret orders we see in the history section, it can be called "Coming Out Of The Shadows", or if dealing with the 7th dragon it can be obviously named "Return Of The 7th Dragon".
Well, that's it for now, I'll post some more if I'll think of 'em.
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Kabukiman
Kabukiman

Tavern Dweller
posted May 04, 2006 02:40 PM

I'd say the same - more spells.

First of all - we need more damage spells, especially when playing dungeon and dealing with elemental chains.


What i miss most are some global spells like in other fantasy strategy games like Age of Wonders, Disciples or Master of Magic. Not sure how to include that since you don't build a mana reserve/income in those games.

Best option would be a small array of faction powers comparable to the necros necromancy amp - a building with a small array of free and always active and invocable powers(gold/resource/sacrifice-cost) wouldn't be too difficult.


Powers could range from increased growth in faction dwellings, increased stats/resistances for all heroes to economical advantages/disadvantages (ie haven -> good weather -> increased peasant income)


Another interesting aspect would be magic specialization. Ok, we got the magic skills allowing us to learn and cast lvl 3+ spells but i'm thinking of setting a mage guild on specialization when built resulting in specializing on the kind of magic you learned and need.

Advantage could be a number of spells which can only be gained by specializing, disadvantage would be narrowing the choice to just one school and maybe even reducing the number of spells available.


That's just my 2 cents gained from playing the demo. For some real suggestions i'll wait till I got the full game...

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jlewlotr
jlewlotr


Hired Hero
posted May 08, 2006 08:00 AM
Edited by jlewlotr at 08:01, 08 May 2006.

Regarding new towns...personally, I usually like to associate towns with certain terrain types, so I think it would be cool to have something snow-based (dwarves would seem pretty logical for this) or something water or sea-based (like some sort of lizard-man city).  A lizard town might have something like: your standard lizard-warriors or archers, maybe an amazon-esque warrior, a lizard riding on some flying creature (dragonfly maybe?), a lizard shaman, nagas, and perhaps a sea dragon as their tier 7.  Just my thoughts.  I would be perfectly fine with a stronghold town too.

-J

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leoest
leoest


Adventuring Hero
posted May 09, 2006 05:02 PM

more spells are needed,i said it before,but its still a good idea the name ideas are really good ComradeX and i especially like the idea of snow and water castles

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