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DarkTitan
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posted July 13, 2006 03:06 PM |
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zidane is pushing for materazzi to be punished.. he sees himself as the victim in all this! 
mmm i think fifa hav cleared materazzi of any wrong doing, verbal abuse is common in football, so i dont see why materazzi shuld be punished simply because this incident is so unique.
I want zidane stripped of his golden ball award, and it should be presented to cannavaro, the deserving winner.. 
Btw i put money on the final and ended up losing.. stupid 90 minutes rule 
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Ecoris
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posted July 13, 2006 03:14 PM |
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Zidane's action can in no way be justified. He's a pofessional and should have been able to ignore whatever Materazzi said. Besides nobody (except the two players involved) know what Materazzi really said.
Zidane brought the game into misrepute in front of hundreds of millions of people all over the world.
Before that it was a personal case between the two players that no one would have known about if he hadn't reacted.
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 13, 2006 03:33 PM |
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i disagree. zidane has given his side of the story (that materazzi called his mum and sister a "terrorist snow") and if that happened then what zidane did was alright
sure it might have lost france the world cup and put a bad mark on his entire career but if materazzi did say those things then materazzi should be banned from playing
fifa is trying to stop racism in football. zidane himself was helping the cause before the tournament. and for a player as high profiled as materazzi to say such a racist thing (if he did say that) is unacceptable, no 2 ways about it. sure they are professionals and all that but there is no way that sledging should be allowed to this extent
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Ecoris
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posted July 13, 2006 03:40 PM |
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if that happened then what zidane did was alright
Of course it's not okay no matter what Materazzi said. Then you're accepting that people take the law into their own hands. Such acts of violence can't be justified by any means.
If Materazzi actually said what Zidane claims it would be totally unacceptable and he should be penalized as well, but that another story...
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posted July 13, 2006 03:42 PM |
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Totally agree. I picture myself being scolded like this, and to tell you the truth, no one will stand seeing their mother and sister being scolded like this and never did any action.
By far i supported Zidane for head butting. Since he is retiring, he my aswell do so, for the sake of his mother and sister. Zidane 
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 13, 2006 03:51 PM |
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i dont support violence and you cant reach that conclusion from what i said.
what zidane did was alright because it wouldnt have escolated into something big. at the worst materazzi would have gotten up and wanted revenge and team mates would have stopped everything quickly. materazzi would (but, with referees today and thier tendencay to "miss" alot of things, i would be better off if i said 'might') recieve a yellow or red card for violence aswell. so nothing would have happened
it didnt happen because materazzi decided to take the "hollywood" route and act like the thing was bigger than it was and so zidane was red carded
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angelito
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posted July 13, 2006 04:03 PM |
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Edited by angelito at 16:03, 13 Jul 2006.
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Zidanes mother already gave a statement in a british newspaper. She said something like: "If it is true what this italian guy said, someone should cut off his balls and bring them to me on a silver tray".
How rude!
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Ecoris
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posted July 13, 2006 04:08 PM |
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i dont support violence and you cant reach that conclusion from what i said.
No, and I didn' claim you do. All I said was that you supported the idea of taking the law into your own hands.
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what zidane did was alright because it wouldnt have escolated into something big.
??? I am perplexed. What is that supposed to mean?
As I said, such kind of violence can't be justified by any means.
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 13, 2006 04:08 PM |
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a french football fanatic might carry out the act
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posted July 13, 2006 04:31 PM |
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Well apparantly FIFA want to remove the Golden ball from Zidane, and give it to the next likely candidate... Cannavaro.
I found it odd for Zidane to win the golden ball though. I know hes a great player and had some great games, but when France played bad, Zidance was nowhere to be seen. And france played bad in most of the group stage.
Cannavaro on the other hand defended well even when Italy wasnt having a good day.
btw, i managed to get 2243, i'd make a good Zidane
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posted July 13, 2006 04:44 PM |
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Well apparantly FIFA want to remove the Golden ball from Zidane, and give it to the next likely candidate... Cannavaro.
Nah, he played well when it mattered. In the post-group stage Zidane was the playmaker. If French had the ball, half the time, Zidane would have it 
Btw, I got 6000+ on my first attempt! Don't you EVER say something bad about my mom or sister!
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 13, 2006 04:45 PM |
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i dont think the golden ball should be taken away from zidane. it would be stupid if it was. it was voted upon and he won. he was sent off but thats part of the game shouldnt be stripped of the golden ball for something that is part of the game. absurd really
if canavaro or the other guy that came in 3rd (forgot who it is  ) got sent off would they be stripped of thier votes, which is bascially what is happening to zidane, his votes are being taken away and canavaro would then win.
let him keep it. getting a red card should make him ineligible for the prize
but if he is stripped then canavaro winning is fair
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Dragon_Slayer
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posted July 13, 2006 04:53 PM |
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Pirlo was third.
Well if youa ask me Zidane shouldnt have got the golden ball, but it was given to him, so its wrong to take it away
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Aculias
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posted July 14, 2006 03:51 AM |
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As far as I am concerned Zidane deserved it more then any italian player who would stoop that low to win a cup by planning ahead to get Zidane out.
Besides that headbutt he played great.
Marco should be banned for a yr.
He not only said somethang drastic to Zidane but hes lying about it as well.
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Truliche
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posted July 14, 2006 04:45 AM |
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As far as I am concerned Zidane deserved it more then any italian player who would stoop that low to win a cup by planning ahead to get Zidane out.
Besides that headbutt he played great.
Marco should be banned for a yr.
He not only said somethang drastic to Zidane but hes lying about it as well.
Man will you take off your french glasses and heart for just one goddamn second and be a little more objective?
Anyone who says Italy didn't deserve this world cup is out of their friggin minds... and this is coming from an Ecuadorian who is fan of the Dutch above all.
Players say mean things to each other all the time that is no reason to headbutt anyone, at least not in the playing field, people keep defending Zidane just because he is a star, he plays incredible football but he likes them red cards and what he did was WRONG, justified perhaps but still incredibly WRONG, I'm not defending Marco either but first of all, verbal taunts happen ALL the time in football and honestly, its not big deal and SECOND, Marco is not nearly the regarded professional and star Zidane is, Zidane's behavior should dismerit him from the Golden Ball immediately, you telling me Zidane played a better World Cup than Cannavaro? Come on, Zidane winning the Golden Ball is just marketing hype and the media trying to give their star a "fairy-tale" exit that they expected to have from Zidane winning the Cup, the FIFA is actually considering revoking his award, FIFA is calling Materazzi and Zidane to clear things up... its possible Zidane will have his Golden Ball taken away from him and given to the runner-up (behind 30 votes) Fabio Cannavaro.
Also... are we going to start defending Torsten Frings for punching Julio Cruz (was it him?) why don't I see anyone talking about that? yeah thats right because Frings nor Cruz are the adored stars little "Zizou" is, so just take out your Zidane "glasses and heart" for a moment and look at things objectively, lets just say all Argentinians suck and the Germans are the gods for defending themselves and causing a scene during the Argentina-Germany match... come on people, get some common sense, the truth is, why is it that I see no one defending Frings when the exact same thing happened with him? Yeah I thought so, because you can't stand your start doing something wrong and you try to make it right.
Zidane is great and one of the best in my eyes... but what he did was extremely wrong and nothing will take that away, just because he is Zizou he shouldn't get any special treatment just because he is a star, he doesn't deserve the Golden Ball for that one slip... especially not if he is winning it over a player who played a SUPERB World Cup and did not slip once and always played consistently and cleanly.
Anyone who defends Zidane or claims what he did was right is out of their friggin minds and clearly has Zidane bias, simple as that, also if what they say about Zidanes mother's claim... well that is incredibly immature too, if we had to respond like that to every taunt we are told in life... then we would be in chaos right now. Oh man, I forgot, I have around 50-100 or so people to headbutt, they said my mother was a snow  lets just cut their balls and put them on silver trays while we are at it too... they MUST pay!
Come on people... get real.
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 14, 2006 05:32 AM |
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what materazzi said is worse than what zidane did
racism is the biggest problem in world football. violence isnt. im not wearing my "french" glasses. zidane shouldnt be stripped of the golden ball for one slip up. a slip up that is part of the game.
it was voted upon and zidane won. fifa should just leave it alone
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Truliche
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posted July 14, 2006 05:42 AM |
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what materazzi said is worse than what zidane did
racism is the biggest problem in world football. violence isnt. im not wearing my "french" glasses. zidane shouldnt be stripped of the golden ball for one slip up. a slip up that is part of the game.
it was voted upon and zidane won. fifa should just leave it alone
First of all I'm NOT defending Materazzi, I'm just saying that what Zidane did was wrong... and slip ups like that are not part of the game, slip ups that are part of the game would be an own goal... a foul or something like that... but headbutting is not part of football, I'm sorry to say.
Materazzi is a bad player altogether and played merely because Nesta was injured, but what Zidane did was terrible and he shouldn't be rewarded for it, seriously... I'm not saying Marco should win the Golden Ball, I'm saying Fabio Cannavaro deserves it 10 times more than Zinedine Zidane, he played better all around and was not involved in any controversial or violent acts like Zidane was... truth be told... even if Zidane had not headbutted Materazzi, Cannavaro would still have been the worthy of the Golden Ball, he played better and after an incident like that... you just can't prefer a player like that over Cannavaro, I mean, did you even watch him play?
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Lord_Pc
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posted July 14, 2006 06:23 AM |
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im not saying that headbutting is part of the game
what is happening is zidane might be stripped of his prize, the golden ball, for recieving a red card. a red card is part of the game. and fifa wants zidane to lose the golden ball for receiving a red card, which is part of the game. it is exactly the same thing if zidane scored a hattrick and the golden ball was taken away fro, zidane for scoring 3 goals. its absurd, he played the game and got punished.
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but what Zidane did was terrible and he shouldn't be rewarded for it
zidane didnt get the golden ball for headbutting materazzi. i dont know why you would say that zidane got the golden ball for headbutting 
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truth be told... even if Zidane had not headbutted Materazzi, Cannavaro would still have been the worthy of the Golden Ball, he played better and after an incident like that... you just can't prefer a player like that over Cannavaro, I mean, did you even watch him play?
i watched zidane play and he played well. i must say that i didnt watch much of canavaro playing but i know he is a very good player.
but once again. canavaro is worthy of the golden ball but more people voted for zidane. zidane got more votes. its quite simple. it is also crazy that zidane should be stripped of the golden ball when he got the most votes. if zidane wasnt worthy and canavaro was 10 times more worthy, why did zidane win the golden ball???
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Truliche
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posted July 14, 2006 06:37 AM |
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im not saying that headbutting is part of the game
what is happening is zidane might be stripped of his prize, the golden ball, for recieving a red card. a red card is part of the game. and fifa wants zidane to lose the golden ball for receiving a red card, which is part of the game. it is exactly the same thing if zidane scored a hattrick and the golden ball was taken away fro, zidane for scoring 3 goals. its absurd, he played the game and got punished.
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but what Zidane did was terrible and he shouldn't be rewarded for it
zidane didnt get the golden ball for headbutting materazzi. i dont know why you would say that zidane got the golden ball for headbutting
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truth be told... even if Zidane had not headbutted Materazzi, Cannavaro would still have been the worthy of the Golden Ball, he played better and after an incident like that... you just can't prefer a player like that over Cannavaro, I mean, did you even watch him play?
i watched zidane play and he played well. i must say that i didnt watch much of canavaro playing but i know he is a very good player.
but once again. canavaro is worthy of the golden ball but more people voted for zidane. zidane got more votes. its quite simple. it is also crazy that zidane should be stripped of the golden ball when he got the most votes. if zidane wasnt worthy and canavaro was 10 times more worthy, why did zidane win the golden ball???
Yeah well you are right but I'm also not saying Zidane was awarded the Ball because he headbutted Matterazzi, I'm just saying how is it possible for anyone in their right mind to select Zidane over Cannavaro after what he did, yeah he is a good player but he was involved in a very violent and serious act which affected his team and reputation a lot... a thing in which Cannavaro or any other Golden Ball nominee were not involved in... that alone should be enough to choose any other nominee over Zidane, yeah Zidane played great, but made a serious mistake in the end that should have costed him the golden ball.
FIFA wants to take away his Golden Ball prize because its not possible that a player that headbutts another one in such a controversial act and is later acknowledged as best player of the World Cup, if he is the best player... then you know things are not right, yeah he was great technically but FIFA rewards and punish things other than football skill accordingly and the "best player of the world cup" is not the prize that goes to the most skilled footballer, that is for sure.
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posted July 14, 2006 06:48 AM |
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the golden ball shouldnt be taken away from zidane for one act.
he got france to the finals and one act shouldnt be enough to take away a very valuable prize. if zidane had punched someone in the group stages and had 2 red cards, then fifa would have a case. but that didnt happen. one thing isnt enough to take the golden ball away from zidane
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its not possible that a player that headbutts another one in such a controversial act and is later acknowledged as best player of the World Cup
what if a player headbutted another player in the first game of the world cup. then when the ban was finished this player played great. the player scored 2 goals in every game he played during the world cup. he put on a great show with tricks that made the crowd go wild. then in the final he scored the greatest ever individual goal. this player would be the best player at the world cup. he would have about 8 goals under his belt and showed he is the greatest player at the world cup so he wins the golden boot
should he be stripped of the award? he is clearly the best player. would you take the award off him?
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