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Thread: death knight and wraith This thread is 4 pages long: 1 2 3 4 · «PREV
Homer171
Homer171


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posted June 29, 2006 10:02 PM

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ranged creatures are considered more valualble than no-retaliation creatures.


Black Dragons are considered most valuble creatures (after Phoenix ofcurse). Archangels second and Titans as third! Well that's how AI values the creatures anyway. IF Titans wold have no range penalty they would be greatest. Magi allready has that ability so we don't need it.  No-retalation creatures aren't that valuable but they sure are useful! "Taste my sandal weakling!"
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boogert
boogert

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posted July 15, 2006 08:39 PM

i think the bone dragons should be replaced by wraiths as the tier 7 creature and given the same abilities. then switch the wraiths with the dark knights.
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Homer171
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posted July 16, 2006 12:25 PM

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i think the bone dragons should be replaced by wraiths as the tier 7 creature and given the same abilities. then switch the wraiths with the dark knights.


Wrights to lv7 tier i totally agree! And then Wrights could have new special abilities like: fear attack, no-enemy retalation or mighty gorgon's death gaze from H3. It's not overpowered if creatures stats are still very low.

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Sharp
Sharp

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posted July 16, 2006 09:59 PM

Harm Touch isn't bad,best on phantom forces
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Homer171
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posted July 17, 2006 07:14 AM

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Harm Touch isn't bad,best on phantom forces


Yes it is that bad! All other 6lv creatures have some good specials:
Rakshasa Raja: No Enemy Retaliation. Shadow Matriarch: Shooter and Spell caster. Paladin: Bad ass jousting bonus! Pit Lord: Spell caster and Gating. Ancient Treant: This strong fellows have nasty Entangling Roots.  Wraith: Hmm.. Harm Touch... What can i say? Good for killing enemy phantoms... Hurray! And it's Undead that makes it resistanced for few spell but thats no special at all! I like the looks but it doesn't face any other 6lv tier troops.

I understand necros should be weak but it's no good every fighter is SO weak. Spectre,Vampire Lord,Wraith,Spectral Dragon are all very weak but i don't mind that. I really wish some good specials to Wraiths make them  useful.

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Yavor
Yavor

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posted August 04, 2006 11:29 PM

I've got new idea! We could make a mod using unused in game creature - Black Knight... to make the Dark Champion! The only thing there's to do is to change Black Knight's weapon. We could use the paladin's one. Of course the colours also have to be changed. What do you think about it?

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Moofrog
Moofrog

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posted August 06, 2006 08:59 PM

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I've done it.

I replaced the wight/wraith with the black/death knight and the bone dragon with the wraith. I kept the deathknight with his original stats, including the deadly strike ability. It triggers so rarely that I saw no reason to change it. I tweaked the stats of the wraith and made it a tier 7 with similar stats to the bone dragon.

Generally, I think that the feel of the necropolis army is much better, it looks 'right' after these changes

I might post a guide on how to tweak stats, abilities, game mechanics and the looks of creatures soon.

cheers


Hey dude, can you tell me how to modify the ability of a mob?  Such as removing the death strike ability and replacing it with say...no retaliation?

Also I too think wraiths should be lvl 7, and death knights lvl 6, and throw out bone dragons.  In most lore, bone dragons are sort of a neutral unit.  Please let me know, send me an email too if you get this at: moofrog@gmail.com

Appreciate it greatly!
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Sharp
Sharp

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posted August 08, 2006 09:17 AM
Edited by VokialBG at 17:54, 10 Jan 2008.

2 Homer...:
O.k. but in some situations it is good,so in necro missions in fight with godric i used it very well,because i used puppet master and other trics i had very few losted units (only cannon fodder)
On harmtouch is good that if you have 2 wraiths-u can kill one dragon without retailation...

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