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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Are Necromancers Evil?
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hellwitch
hellwitch


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posted October 02, 2006 04:14 PM
Edited by hellwitch at 16:19, 02 Oct 2006.

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Snap out of it,evil is quite real and has nothing to do with misconceptions and enmity.Some people may view it in a different way yes but it's still there.Some people will want to hurt you for no apparent reason or to gain an advantage and won't shed a tear about it.And not because you have done something to them or they consider you an enemy.

do you know what this symbol means!And please dont talk like a preast. The idea that enemy never sleep is gone with end of the cold war. And your example: yes there is good but not for the victim. if you are the aggressor you will have all the reasons for your actions.
Any way the talking about good and evil is only excuse for people and organizations to make what they want.It is only a tool of the proparanda everywhere on earth.But good and evil dont exist!!!

And for the thread i dont see what is the problem with that the necros want to live(exists) forever. Immortality is a goal of many.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted October 02, 2006 06:11 PM

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do you know what this symbol means!And please dont talk like a preast. The idea that enemy never sleep is gone with end of the cold war. And your example: yes there is good but not for the victim. if you are the aggressor you will have all the reasons for your actions.
Any way the talking about good and evil is only excuse for people and organizations to make what they want.It is only a tool of the proparanda everywhere on earth.But good and evil dont exist!!!

And for the thread i dont see what is the problem with that the necros want to live(exists) forever. Immortality is a goal of many.


Sure I do and don't worry I am not the fanatic preaching type However it is common knowledge that some people want to help others out of moral obligation and some enjoy other people's suffering.And of course the inbetween case where people may be slightly indifferent,helping the people they love which may or not care about others' predicament and are more susceptible to 'not so good' deeds.As with the theory of yin and yank all of us have properties of black and white,just some have a focus.Concept of good and evil still exists even if some organisations/your community label things as such according to their desires and what they have to gain.What is rewarding for me doesn't mean it's good but certainly doesn't make it wrong if it's not.
As for the necros it's not the matter of immortality but that their intentions are questionable at best.Many of their heroes are clearly evil by the biography description while others pass as normal heroes with unconfirmed alignment.And raising the dead can be overlooked too but raising an army by killing people to gather strength or transforming them into undead unwillingly feels evil.Leaving Markal out of this why would the other necro heroes want to destroy the elven capital?Revenge?That would be against the wizards.In this respect most if not all people who have played the Gauldoth campaign cannot call Gauldoth evil.
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diablo-jr
diablo-jr


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posted October 03, 2006 01:41 PM

well now that is well put.and yes that is a good question as well.the holy nuterual of the realm why would they want to kill the elves.the only thing I can think of is that the elves want to kill the vampire lord so there out to stop them from doing just that as he would be there new power player.just like at the start every body was on the queens side and would do anything for her includeing side with the necro's at first.and if you remember the necro campaigne the elves drew first blood in that champaigne by interfeiring in the reclaiming of the artifacts.yes or no.and now the necro's are returning the fight to them and there evil so why did the elves attack them in the first place?but like I said before you can debate this for ever simply b/c no one is going to see it the same as each other thats our freedom of chioce coming through.
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hellwitch
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posted October 03, 2006 02:11 PM

Elvin
There is no such things as good and evil - its only mather on which side you are. Thats why i like nerco and dislike all kind of elf races because they are drivellers.In my opinion Necros are good, elfs are bad.(Sylvan have attack orientation)

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Elvin
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posted October 03, 2006 03:07 PM

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well now that is well put.and yes that is a good question as well.the holy nuterual of the realm why would they want to kill the elves.the only thing I can think of is that the elves want to kill the vampire lord so there out to stop them from doing just that as he would be there new power player.just like at the start every body was on the queens side and would do anything for her includeing side with the necro's at first.and if you remember the necro campaigne the elves drew first blood in that champaigne by interfeiring in the reclaiming of the artifacts.yes or no.and now the necro's are returning the fight to them and there evil so why did the elves attack them in the first place?but like I said before you can debate this for ever simply b/c no one is going to see it the same as each other thats our freedom of chioce coming through.


The elves were invaded by Nicolai after necro heroes attacked the borders and took Syris Thalla.As for earlier the elves' actions aren't out of place.They tried to intercept a necromancer which seemed to rule the griffin empire from the unprecedented attacking of the wizards(it also seemed like it happened for no reason to them) and cursing their cities.But I guess it doesn't really matter as we're all pretty set in our beliefs
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layla
layla

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posted October 03, 2006 05:21 PM

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Yes, they are bloody evil.Ask Crag Hack about this.

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WilX
WilX


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posted October 03, 2006 11:32 PM

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Yes, they are bloody evil.Ask Crag Hack about this.

That's stupid if anything Crag Hack would agree that they are not evil. Especially now that he is dead, and of course a Necro's B****

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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2006 09:51 AM

Well Crag Hack didn't hate them but he hated fighting them.Ugly and smelly...Oh the stench!Not sure about after he was tricked by Sandro however
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layla
layla

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posted October 04, 2006 01:46 PM

Necromancy is a bloody disgousting evil thing.Crag hack fought them.Barbarians are good.

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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2006 01:52 PM

I should have guessed you'd say that
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hobowu
hobowu


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posted October 04, 2006 02:43 PM

i should've guessed as well...
what's wrong with necromancy o_O
a lot of necromancy was done with good intentions, in fact, one of the few examples of necromancy in HOMM done without good intentions was Vidomina's alchemical-turned-necromantic experiments (from H4).
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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2006 03:07 PM

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i should've guessed as well...
what's wrong with necromancy o_O
a lot of necromancy was done with good intentions, in fact, one of the few examples of necromancy in HOMM done without good intentions was Vidomina's alchemical-turned-necromantic experiments (from H4).


You don't know that.After all she went to become Sandro's apprentice and did get a good glimpse what being a necromancer is about.And necromancy's primary function in heroes is raising the dead,something most dislike.
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layla
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posted October 04, 2006 04:30 PM

"All dead and gone" - Queen


Necromancers are that ugly and strange that they cannot be real."That is a proof for the existance of the Inferno.In the real life, nothing, no matter how bad it is, doesn't have the taste of a nightmare"(quote from Borges, approximately).Necromancy has the data of a  nightmare.

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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2006 04:47 PM

That's deep man.And is really validated.Gimme a break!
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layla
layla

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posted October 04, 2006 04:51 PM

That was the answer for the question "are necromancers evil?".It's not my fault if it's been said before.

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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2006 06:40 PM

Real life stuff can be quite nightmarish and also quite real.Seriously!
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layla
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posted October 04, 2006 06:55 PM

No.The nightmare is a distinct, very distinct thing.It's not real, it's not real-taste."The tiger of the dreams".it's coming straight from hell.Hell isn't yet real, is it?I mean we still have the music, we have a sort of free space to live in, music,poetry, a woman's sight,a fleeting glimpse,  whatever...You cannot escape from a nightmare, and that's not all, of course;it's the taste of a nightmare, you can't miss it...you know it...it's definitely not reality.

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diablo-jr
diablo-jr


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posted October 05, 2006 04:55 PM

what the hell dose that have to do with the question
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WilX
WilX


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posted October 05, 2006 09:10 PM

Well I'm glad to see this post has devolved into a bunch of giberish. Glad I could help

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diablo-jr
diablo-jr


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posted October 05, 2006 10:53 PM
Edited by diablo-jr at 22:55, 05 Oct 2006.

hi wilx remind me to send you a virus.in a thank you letter for this wonderful work on this thread.lol
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