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layla
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posted November 15, 2006 02:55 PM |
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in h3, even inferno was just bent on conquest and making the world more suitable for them(setting it on fire). even they werent evil in their thinking, no?
Not every action that somebody performs is good, even if it seems so to him, isn't that so?. I think it's obvious that there are some "comunity values" which establish a minimum set of rules ,in order to say if an action is good or bad.Of course different people have different ideas concerning whether something is good or bad, but without some kind of general agreement it would become impossible to live on earth.And I believe that dead people should at least be left alone.So the idea of necromancy is definitely evil.Very evil, I would say.Necromancy It' s not about war.It's about minimum respect.You can't play with dead bodies. It's so low.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 06, 2007 01:41 PM |
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Evil.
But not Inferno-like evil, because many of them are damned, or cursed, opposing their will. So who knows, there are the truly evil ones (Sandro, Markal etc.), and there are the damned ones (Gauldoth for example, he doesn't look so evil, he's more of a misunderstood madman ).
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Moonlith
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posted September 06, 2007 01:57 PM |
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Of course not.
There is no good and evil, just different perspectives and opinions. Necromancers happen to belief true perfection of the soul is to be found in the afterlife, and that just doesn't float well with all the life-loving zealots who like to call it evil, just because they call themselves good.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 06, 2007 02:40 PM |
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You've got a point there...
That makes me think
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Elvin
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posted September 06, 2007 02:54 PM |
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Yes yes evil is a point of view. Death is everlasting beauty yada yada so it's ok to slaughter a few villages to raise an army. Sure ideals in themselves are not evil but certain practices are. If you believe it's right to kill people because you for instance feel that you liberate them from a harsh life does that make it right? It's still an evil act.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 06, 2007 03:38 PM |
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Of course, I agree.
But I still say that Inferno Evil and Necro Evil are different.
And listen to this, whenever I find a neutral stack of Angels*, I do not attack them. I am a believer. Orthodox Christian.
And yes, I know it is a game, but I always try to be good even if I play with Evil.
And I think it is good. You know how games affect people.
Doing good and noble things in a game can affect your game progress, but, I still do it.
*Yes, yes I know they are Elrath's Angels but I look at them as God's beings nevertheless. (Oh, yes, my name is Mihailo english for Michael, like the Archangel)
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Elvin
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posted September 06, 2007 03:45 PM |
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God's angels would not carry a sword nor have a corporeal form  Yes once I even felt wrong to play with inferno but later I began to like it. Back in H3 
It's just a game as you said and even when I kill in a game I like it. That does not mean I'd approve of that in real life but I see no reason to limit myself in something that does not actually happen.
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MornVatreniVuk
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posted September 06, 2007 03:57 PM |
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Archangel Michael has a burning sword, and sometimes a spear on the murals in churches and monasterys. (He's a general of Heaven's forces)
Maybe me or you wouldn't kill anyone in the real life but who knows who's playing games these days.
Oh, yes, I have a friend who hates evil dudes in games that he doesn't want to play with them at all (WTF!).
So, if he wants to play a campaign, he just calls my number, and give me to play with Inferno or Necro, in order to progress to the next stage.
Crazy, no?
I mean, I am good, but, as you said, it's only a game...
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Moonlith
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posted September 06, 2007 04:07 PM |
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Yes yes evil is a point of view. Death is everlasting beauty yada yada so it's ok to slaughter a few villages to raise an army. Sure ideals in themselves are not evil but certain practices are. If you believe it's right to kill people because you for instance feel that you liberate them from a harsh life does that make it right? It's still an evil act.
Again that depends on your point of view. Humans value life and have a sense of moral. So certain acts like taking life are bound to get called "evil" by them, because it doesn't comply with what THEY feel is "Good", which is, "living".
As someone once said, Evil can't exist without good Evil is nothing more but that which conflicts with what someone (or perhaps, the majority) considers to be good.
There's no such thing as universal rights or wrongs.
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Elvin
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posted September 06, 2007 04:08 PM |
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Haha that's precious! I have found some evil campaigns more compelling than the good side at times. Could be because they are so different plus everyone has a spark or evil nature  That said I still prefer the good guys but there are different things to appreciate from each side in a game. Being one-sided is no good.
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Squire_leader
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posted September 07, 2007 01:50 PM |
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oh, no, they are purely good, converting dead into rotten half-living meat is perfectly ok
congratulations, you say it very good
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Elvin
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posted September 07, 2007 02:00 PM |
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Again that depends on your point of view. Humans value life and have a sense of moral. So certain acts like taking life are bound to get called "evil" by them, because it doesn't comply with what THEY feel is "Good", which is, "living".
There's no such thing as universal rights or wrongs.
Oops I missed that. Ok can I kill you? I'm sure there are a few creatures out there that would not find it evil.
Sure philosophy is good and all but practically evil is harming someone intentionally for no specific reason or for personal gain. Nothing can change that fact no matter how you think it and it is universal, believe me.
Feelings have nothing to do with it, someone may feel it is evil to burp loudly  Rules and morality are not there to serve as food for thought they are meant to protect humanity. The only case I cannot consider taking a life intentionally evil is in matters of survival or to prevent a greater evil.
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