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Haldowan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 23, 2006 08:00 PM |
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Good, thanks for feedback. How did you test this ? Can I put this info in the topic ?
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marlboroo
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 23, 2006 08:25 PM |
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feel free to add this info
i found this info by accident when make some mod, power rating also discussed in modders subforum, like computer heroes will attack you if it thinks your heroes army power rating is lower than it heroes army
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Haldowan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 23, 2006 11:17 PM |
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Edited by Haldowan at 09:20, 24 Jul 2006.
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I've just read the modding forum, there is a lot of good things to know. But I can't explain why the computer will split more if I have the same power rating ? In my example, I was with some griffins (don't remember the number) and I was fighting mages. All I want to do is having one stack of griffin for each stack of mage. When I went with one, they were two, when I went with two, they were three, three vs four. The power rating calculation can't explain that, or I don't understand it well.
Edit : Typo.
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted July 24, 2006 01:35 AM |
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Yeah, I noticed the same thing.
I think this guide is really helpful in terms of collecting all the data in one place. I for one thing would like to know for example the extact number of enemies we can expect from places like: utopia, elemental stockpile, crypt, and so on...
It'd be good to have such info in one place
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Klaital
Known Hero
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posted July 24, 2006 10:04 AM |
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I have only visited elemental stockpile once, encountering 15 of each type of elemental, got my army decimated so totally that never visited them again.
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Haldowan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2006 10:09 AM |
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Anyone has some info about the creeps weekly growth according to the difficulty level ? I know that modders have this info.
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Klaital
Known Hero
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posted July 24, 2006 10:15 AM |
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I don't think difficulty level has anything to do with that, I think only the size of the group matters. As they grow by some percentage each week.
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted July 24, 2006 04:26 PM |
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Edited by Betruger at 16:33, 24 Jul 2006.
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I have only visited elemental stockpile once, encountering 15 of each type of elemental, got my army decimated so totally that never visited them again.
Yeah, yeah
What I meant is that I would like to extacly know what are the possible number of monsters, and what are the prizes.
The numbers differ each time, there are several 'sets' of monster, some of them are more probable than the other.
For example I had visited elemental stockpile and there were 5 elementals of each type. Which is the lowest possible I think, and the most probable too.
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Anyone has some info about the creeps weekly growth according to the difficulty level ? I know that modders have this info.
I could swear that they just grow at their usual rate. Each creature has a certain weekly growth (like 22 for peasants, 2 for wights, and 1 for green dragons) and I'm almost 100% sure that the neutral creatures grow at this rate as well.
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Haldowan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 24, 2006 04:45 PM |
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I have released info about elemental stockpiles. Look for BASICS - Where do you find creeps ?
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted July 24, 2006 04:53 PM |
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Edited by Betruger at 17:02, 24 Jul 2006.
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Good job about them stockpiles 
The power of creeps guarding mines however depends on a map. On some there are less creatures, on some there are more. Check Neihgbours map for instance. Clearly there are more creeps guarding mines than for example on Last Hope.
Also, the crypt contains not only zombies and skellies, but can also have ghosts, vampires and even liches. But I think you know that anyway.
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marlboroo
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 24, 2006 05:54 PM |
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ok, i will give more info, about neutral monsters count, exp and weekly growth in every difficulty lvl (i just cut and paste the infos from p0-data.pak\GameMechanics\RPGStats\defaultstats.xdb)
<NeutralsNotInCampaign>
<CountCoefs>
<Item>0.5</Item>
<Item>1</Item>
<Item>1.12</Item>
<Item>1.4</Item>
</CountCoefs>
<ExpCoefs>
<Item>2</Item>
<Item>1</Item>
<Item>1</Item>
<Item>1</Item>
</ExpCoefs>
<WeeklyGrowCoefs>
<Item>1.05</Item>
<Item>1.09</Item>
<Item>1.1</Item>
<Item>1.11</Item>
/WeeklyGrowCoefs>
</NeutralsNotInCampaign>
at weekly growratecoefs, item 1.05 mean at easy lvl the growth rate will be 1.05 * monster growth rate, 1.09 is normal, 1.1 hard and 1.11 heroic
now about creature banks (to long to copy paste from the file, just look it by yourself its the same file, i will try to explain a few myself)..
ex. crypt, 25% chance will contain (50:50 45skelarcher or 30 skel) and (60:40 30walk dead or 20 zombies), 30% chance will contain other definite creatures, 15% chance contains other, etc, etc, etc... what i wanna tell here is that the chance you will face horde or weakling enemis in banks is random, all by pure luck..
last about the power of creeping guarding mines and other treasure, it depend on a map
pls correct me if some infos are wrong
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marlboroo
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 24, 2006 06:00 PM |
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about the stacks splitting... creatures, artifact, skill, abilities and other things also have power ratings, maybe when u split creatures then some info of the power rating are modified too
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Betruger
Known Hero
empowered mind
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posted July 29, 2006 06:17 PM |
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There are some interesting precentages of getting skills at
http://www.heroes.ag.ru/heroes5/heroes/
It appear they are correct, though I don't know the source of them.
Would be nice to put it into this guide too.
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