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Elvin
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posted September 02, 2006 09:25 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 09:28, 02 Sep 2006.
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It was already mentioned that the expansion pack would be released in November. Which day in November is unknown.
Even in case things go wrong the expansion will be released December.But most probably we'll wrap our greedy fingers around it on November as Nival has been working on it for some time now.
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Doomforge
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Retired Hero
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posted September 02, 2006 10:19 AM |
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Ooo how many alike creatures, Ubisoft are crazy
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dwarf with axe
dwarf Mage
giant dwarf
dwarf with Bear
dwarf with 2 axe
Stormlord - giant dwarf with axe ?
and Magma Dragon ?
Sorry but this is stipud 
hahah I foresaw this some months ago (maybe someone remembers? ) When I wrote that a dwarf town will introduce a dwarf with axe, a dwarf with bigger axe and a dwarf with biggest axe and will be dull in terms of variabilty. Call me a prophet xD
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Feuerader
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posted September 02, 2006 10:24 AM |
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Btw, can anybody say what's really the deal with those giant dwarves?
I haven't seen giant humans or elves so I'm curious about that thing.
Maybe its not "giant dwarf" but is just "giant". Giants live with dwarf in many fantasy fiction, as well as in Norse mythology.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 02, 2006 10:25 AM |
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hahah I foresaw this some months ago (maybe someone remembers? ) When I wrote that a dwarf town will introduce a dwarf with axe, a dwarf with bigger axe and a dwarf with biggest axe and will be dull in terms of variabilty. Call me a prophet xD
My God you are right!You have the gift then?I was hoping you could tell me what my future will be What kind of payment do you accept?
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted September 02, 2006 11:28 AM |
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Here Doomforge.
How about a cracker for you feeble accomplishment
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VokialBG
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First in line
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posted September 02, 2006 12:44 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 13:35, 02 Sep 2006.
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hahah I foresaw this some months ago (maybe someone remembers? ) When I wrote that a dwarf town will introduce a dwarf with axe, a dwarf with bigger axe and a dwarf with biggest axe and will be dull in terms of variabilty. Call me a prophet xD
The dwarf is good for unit not for race, I mean, like in Heroes 3-1 dwarf unit.
...or mountain race with 1 dwarf, Magma Dragon or maybe Azure Dragon, Centaur, Harpy... and Ice Mage ? Why not ?
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baklava
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Mostly harmless
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posted September 02, 2006 01:19 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 13:24, 02 Sep 2006.
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The dwarf faction is THE crappiest town I've ever seen. I mean, come on, if Nival ran out of ideas, why don't they check a fan forum - there must've been zillions of dwarf towns introduced in those places, with 100 times better creature lineups. There's more dwarf units in Fortress than human ones in Haven, and they don't even have a flier! If someone posted a faction like this in ICTC he would had a rating of -10.
But the rune magic ability and the bear riders are awesome.
EDIT: I didn't see their 6th level units are teleporters. It's still not the best idea, but it's better than having no fliers.
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player1_hero
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posted September 02, 2006 02:13 PM |
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The dwarf is good for unit not for race, I mean, like in Heroes 3-1 dwarf unit.
Dwarf is good for race as much as elf or human.
It just looks overdone in this case.
3-4 dwarven units would've been fine, but even Heaven has less human units then there is dwarven units now.
Exempt if Thane is not gigantic dwarf, but some type of giant.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 02, 2006 04:51 PM |
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I think many dwarf units isn't really so bad. Yes, it lacks some variety, but a town is more than just a bunch of creatures. Dwarves are a proud, stubborn and somewhat secluded race, and because there aren't many creatures in the heart of the mountains, it makes perfect sense that the dwarves will fight without the help of others.
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PhoenixReborn
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Unicorn
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posted September 02, 2006 06:00 PM |
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First of all, the dwarven town is going to play balanced just like all the other towns do. It's going to have shooters and caster(s) and ground troops.
Second of all I think the worst town idea I've ever seen in a Heroes game is the conflux. Let's just throw all the elementals together and make it a town. I like this dwarf stuff more than that. But then, I like dwarves.
Let's wait and see how it plays before jumping to conclusions.
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VokialBG
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posted September 02, 2006 06:19 PM |
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Let's wait and see how it plays before jumping to conclusions.
Hmmmm okay
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MadTricks
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posted September 02, 2006 07:38 PM |
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can i ask what is this rune magic about? :/
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted September 02, 2006 08:25 PM |
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WilX
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posted September 03, 2006 12:10 AM |
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hahah I foresaw this some months ago (maybe someone remembers? ) When I wrote that a dwarf town will introduce a dwarf with axe, a dwarf with bigger axe and a dwarf with biggest axe and will be dull in terms of variabilty. Call me a prophet xD
Hey to be fair I think one of the downgraded units has a hammer
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SBlister
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Rakshasa Commander
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posted September 03, 2006 02:44 AM |
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Does anyone know what the individual dwarf unit abilities are? I'm guessing shooter for defender and fire mage. maybe short range shooter for axe thrower. Enraged for brawler and no retaliation for berserker. Teleport for Stormlord. Caster for fire/flame mage. C'mon Nival... stop teasing us and reveal already...
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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted September 03, 2006 02:53 AM |
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Does anyone know what the individual dwarf unit abilities are? I'm guessing shooter for defender and fire mage. maybe short range shooter for axe thrower. Enraged for brawler and no retaliation for berserker. Teleport for Stormlord. Caster for fire/flame mage. C'mon Nival... stop teasing us and reveal already...
Unofficial list of unit Specials:
Level 1: Defender (Enraged Armored, Large Shield)
....Upg: Stout Defender (Shield Wall)
Level 2: Axe Fighter (Wound)
....Upg: Axe Thrower (Shooter, No Melee Penalty)
Level 3: Bear Rider (Large, Enraged)
....Upg: Blackbear Rider (Armored, Paw Strike)
Level 4: Brawler (Immunity to Mind Control)
....Upg: Berserker (Berserker Rage)
Level 5: Fire Mage (Shooter. Caster. Magic-proof. Mark of Fire).
....Upg: Flame Mage (Crossfire)
Level 6: Thane (Large. Teleport. Stormstrike. Immunity to Lightning).
....Upg: Stormlord (Stormbolt)
Level 7: Lava Dragon (Fire Breath. Fire Shield. Elemental. Immunity to Fire.)
....Upg: Magma Dragon (Magma Shield instead of Fire Shield)
Wounding usually means that the unit will take bleeding damage on following turns, so I expect this to be the same. Crossfire should allow this unit to make area attacks similar to the Stonespikes spell. Stormstrike should allow the unit to do Lightning Damage to the unit adjacent to the target. Stormbolt should be some sort of Chain Lightning effect, but with full damage on all targets I think. I can only speculate on the Paw Strike and the Bersercer Rage as well as the Mark Of Fire and the Magma Shield.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 03, 2006 03:14 AM |
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No need for speculation,Jolly Joker has already commented on that:
Armored: 'This creature is resistant to all spells and effects that decrease Defense'.No master of fire for this one!
Shield Wall: 'Damage suffered by this creature from enemy attack is 10% less per every tile the attacker walked to hit'.Kinda the opposite of charge it seems.
Wound: 'In a successful attack, this creature has additional chance to decrease the target’s Speed (-50%) and Initiative (-30%)'.With such an ability why would you even upgrade it?!!
Paw Strike: 'This creature has a chance to push the target one tile aside and zero all the Initiative the target has accumulated'.Not bad for low speed creatures or those adjacent to your marksmen
Berserker Rage: 'When this ability is used, this creature drops its Defense to zero for the time being, and has the same amount of Offense increase, then attacks the nearest target automatically without suffering the retaliation strike (activated ability)'.Reminds the old frenzy spell,berzerker's initiative had better be good!
Mark of Fire: 'When attacking, this creature has a chance to damn the target, which will result in all the Fire damage suffered by it within a certain period of time being doubled'.No comment!
Crossfire: 'The creature has the attack area shaped as a cross'.Yeah seems like stone spikes.
Stormstrike: 'Besides usual damage, this creature strikes the target with lightning (non-magical damage), which then hits another enemy creature if there is one standing next to the target, and further on, until the chain interrupts. The lighting’s force is equal to that of the attack'.These haven players had better beware!
Stormbolts:'Once per battle, this creature can attack any chosen target with Storm Strike (activated ability)'.Uh titans would be pissed for imitating their call lightning ability.
Magma Shield: 'When this creature undergoes a melee attack, the attacker suffers Fire damage in the amount depending on its attack’s force'.Probably a better version of fire shield(?)
Pretty tricky,one would expect dwarves to be more straightforward
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alcibiades
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of Gold Dragons
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posted September 03, 2006 03:25 AM |
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Ouch ... some of those abilities sound close to overpowered. The Fire Mage and the Stormlord are gonna be a pain in the a$$ when you have to fight them.
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 03, 2006 03:49 AM |
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Pretty close.Damn just think of wound as a 2nd tier ability,not taking into account the more advanced ones.But there have to be some setbacks.BTW dwarves seems good necro(rune of exorcism) and dungeon(unit AND rune immunities even if random) counters.A mighty faction with good resistance the dream of every barbarian
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Lord_Crusader
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posted September 03, 2006 03:52 AM |
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Pretty close.Damn just think of wound as a 2nd tier ability,not taking into account the more advanced ones.But there have to be some setbacks.BTW dwarves seems good necro(rune of exorcism) and dungeon(unit AND rune immunities even if random) counters.A mighty faction with good resistance the dream of every barbarian
yeap this town is very barbarian type... but I think HV still having space for the orcs, cyclops, trolls, goblins, etc. so maybe a second expasion is possible
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