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wizardboy
wizardboy


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Look ma!..a glowing ball...
posted September 30, 2001 01:54 PM

since ya talking bout mythology backgrounds can any of u tell me where chimeras came from??
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posted September 30, 2001 02:37 PM

Looking up chimera in the dictionary...

chi·me·ra also chi·mae·ra n.

1. Chimera. Gk. Myth. A fire-breathing she-monster usually represented as a composite of a lion, a goat, and a serpent.

2. A creation of the imagination; an impossible an foolish fancy.

3. Biol. An organism, esp. a plant, containing tissues from atleast two genetically discinct parents.

[ME chimere < OFr. < Lat. chimaera < Gk. khimaira.]


This chimera looks pretty greek to me...
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wizardboy
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posted September 30, 2001 03:08 PM

thanks....

hmm so it's a monster created from bad imagination??

and i thought it was some kind of mechanic creature...well at least was in m:tg....
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Wesley
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posted February 24, 2002 12:22 AM

Here you are.

Asylum
Bandit(from your backyard)
Orc(Fantasy mostly tolkien I guess but orcs were different before his time I guess)
Medusa-Greek mythology it's a gorgon
Minotaur-Greek mythology (the labyrinth story)
Nightmare-Dungeons and dragons I guess fantasy
Efreet-From african mythology/fantasy
Hydra-Son of echidna and typhon, So greek mythology
Black Dragon-Dungeon and Dragons so fantasy

Academy
Halfling-Tolkien
Dwarf-˝ tolkien ˝ norse mythology
Golem-From everywhere
Magi-From fantasy
Naga-I really don't know.  iknow they are suppose to be snakes with only the heads of females. I guess it's something from azia. Because some mix her with shiva.
Genie-African and Azia(I know them from alladin )
Titan-Named collossus in greek mythology. The titans were evil)
Dragon Golem-They are from a place called the garbage mountain

Necropolis
Skeleton-Everybody with a mind can think of them
Imp-This started with cats. They should have been a imp/familiar from hell. because cats are against the rules in the bible. They have something with the devil. just like snakes.
Ghost-From childeren that were told ghost stories at nighttime?
Cerberus-Greek mythology guarding the death for hades.
Vampire-From dracula
Venom Spawn-From your toilet!
Bone Dragon-????
Devil-From the bible

Stronghold
Centaur-From Greek Mythology
Beserker-I really don't care
Harpy-Greek mythology had 3 of them carring souls to hell
Nomad-From the desert of africa(they still live there)
Ogre-From english mythology. It all started with the big green giant from the lake. Now it's world wide changed into serveral ways.
Cyclops-Both mythology(greek) and fantasy
Thunderbird-From america. Indians believe giant birds that carry thunder on their wings capture their childeren every januari of the year.
Behemoth-from king kong the second movie.




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posted February 24, 2002 12:45 AM

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Vampire-From dracula




Actually, Wesley, vampires are to be found in myths and legends from all over Europe way before "dracula". "Dracula" is just a third hand book written by an old, crazy guy. He never visited Romania, or anywhere close for that matter, and he just wrote what his sick imagination told him to. The "dracula" image and it's association with one of Romania's mst beloved rulers of old is very close to being  a sacrilege.
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Achmed
Achmed

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posted February 24, 2002 06:52 AM

the griffin is supposed to be british

also its made out to be an evil powerfully magic creature

that has telepathic powers and medusas stone powers

also wghy do tsome guys have moderator in the notoriety columb
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SirDunco
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posted February 24, 2002 06:56 AM

Talking of origins

I was surprised that no creatures came from Slavic mythology. We have some good ones here.
Example:

Kikimora(No idea about the translation). A very ugly woman(seriously) thought to create nightmares when called uppon.(Comes from Slovakia)

Rusalka(Something like a vila) We all know what vilas do. They are somthing like nymphs. (Pretty much from everywhere in the Slavic lands)

Baba yaga(Voila a clasic one) An old witch and very powerful from Russian mythology.
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wizardboy
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posted February 24, 2002 08:46 AM

...and i was suprised to see no creatures from the asians mythology either...
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SirDunco
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posted February 24, 2002 08:51 AM

true

true true. I'd like to see those someday. Nice and interesting, but for somereason they were left out. Also i'd like to see Shiva evnthoyght he's an actual god, but it be cool
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Wesley
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posted February 24, 2002 11:21 AM

Hmm

Griffin-Greek Mythology. Griffins guarded the lake of gold. When Cyclops wanted to steal it the griffins killed them.

Resulka-A beautifull death woman that lives in lakes. She's naked and handsome so she lures males into the water to drown them there.
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Djive
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posted February 24, 2002 12:20 PM

"Nightmare-Dungeons and dragons I guess fantasy"

Actually, I believe it is very these come from human tradition and legends created in similar ways as for ghosts.

It's not unreasonable for the creature to have sprung from a nightmare ( bad dream) where a black horse played a prominent role.

Of one thing I'm sure they're not invented by such a modern thing as D&D.

"Golem-From everywhere"

Aren't there some very early references to Golems in the Bible?

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Wesley
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posted February 24, 2002 12:33 PM

That could be.

But in any mythology/Game/movie/others are golems. I really don't know where they are from

About nightmares. I guess the horse version is older then the word nightmare(Dream) I think they used the horse name into the Dream version.

So the Nightmare horse legend is older then the Nightmare(dream) I think it was called different in history. Maybe just Bad Dream or something. Then they saw this horse and they called nightmare to it.
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posted February 24, 2002 01:55 PM

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Golem-From everywhere

Some jew stories, maybe even bible. It's said that a jew made this clay statue and gave a life to it.
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Lord_Echo
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posted February 24, 2002 02:16 PM

Leprechauns is holland but we in norway have christmas Leprechauns in the barn at christmas night we but out cokies and milk to the Leprechaunsonly our Leprechauns have red clothings!!! and trolls and goblin r in the norwegians folklore!
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Wesley
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posted February 24, 2002 02:29 PM

Leprechaun

Leprechaun is from England not holland.
Just like Incubus and Succubus they are both from scotland!
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DonGio
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posted February 24, 2002 02:42 PM

A mare is, according to "the Norwegian Dictionary", a supernatural female creature who torments sleeping people by sitting heavily on their torso. Mares are also known to sit on animals (particularily horses), making them act crazy.

When, in addition, I can tell you that the norwegian word for nightmare is mareritt - comprised of mare - which means mare in english, and ritt - which means ride (noun).

So it would be fair to assume that people who rode very fierce or wild horses said "it was like riding a mare", and it's easy to see how the horse got all tied up in this.

So maybe the nightmare is partly scandinavian!
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Lord_Echo
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posted February 24, 2002 02:42 PM

well well ok ENGLAND!!!! wel its kinda norwegian too only we call them "Nisser"
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posted February 24, 2002 02:50 PM

The leprechaun is, just to clear things out, according to the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, of Irish origin (originally spelled luchorpán, comprised of lu - small, and corp - body), and was a "pigmy sprite".
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Wesley
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posted February 24, 2002 03:00 PM

Dongio?

A mare is a female horse!

At least in dutch it's like this

Nightmare(English)= Nachtmerrie(Dutch)
Merrie=Female horse(Dutch)


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posted February 24, 2002 03:34 PM

DonGio is right..

The name Nightmare for a bad dream comes from the creature called a Mare. In old Scandinavian folklore it was said that people had a bad dream because they were ridden by a mare by nighttime. Some old paintings I've seen shows the mare as a black female demon afflicting sleeping people. On Danish a bad dream is called mare-ridt (Mare Ride) an on english simply a nightmare.
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