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Gnoll_Mage
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posted November 13, 2006 10:26 PM |
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Well I've finished, and the town comes out fairly near the top with my scores (about Sylvan level). This is pretty much fine, unless you want a weaker castle with good skills etc., in which case a few changes will be needed. The only thing I'd do beyond what I had earlier is reduce the number of shots of the Archons:
Unit--------------Attack-Defence-Damage----HP---Mana-Shots-Initiative-Speed-Cost--Growth
Serpent Fly----------2------2----1 to 1-----4-----0----0--------9-------6----25----19
Coatl----------------2------3----1 to 2-----5-----0----0-------10-------8----40----19
Lizardman Prowler----3------3----3 to 4-----7-----0----8--------9-------5----60----10
Chameleon Prowler----4------4----4 to 5-----8-----0---10--------9-------6----90----10
Viper Sentinel-------3------5----4 to 6----20-----0----0--------8-------5---120-----8
Cobra Sentinel-------5------5----5 to 8----30-----0----0--------9-------6---175-----8
Swamp Guard----------8------9----8 to 10---45-----0----0--------9-------5---370-----5
Swamp Warden--------10------9---10 to 12---55-----0----0-------10-------6---430-----5
Templar-------------14-----14---10 to 16---65-----0----0-------11-------6---580-----3
Praetorian----------18-----16---12 to 25---72-----0----0-------12-------8---760-----3
Archon--------------18-----18---18 to 23---85-----5----9--------9-------4--1450-----2
Grand Archon--------20-----20---19 to 26---100----5---11-------10-------4--1800-----2
Leviathan-----------27-----29---20 to 38---165----0----0-------12-------9--3000+1M--1
Emperor Leviathan---29-----30---25 to 50---190----0----0-------12-------9--3500+1M--1
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted November 13, 2006 10:29 PM |
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SB - where am I looking for these proposed abilities exactly?
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vhilhu
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We are NOT schysophren
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posted November 13, 2006 10:31 PM |
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Edited by vhilhu at 22:47, 13 Nov 2006.
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btw i propose hierophant look with chariotwith hybrid horses:
or more game related: 
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Two little Gnoll boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was one.
One little Gnoll boy left all alone;
He went and hung himself and then there were none.
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SBlister
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Rakshasa Commander
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posted November 13, 2006 10:38 PM |
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To Gnollmage, they are posted by me and war-overlord towards the end of page 25 somwhere. ill go thru ur stats and see what changes need to be made.
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baklava
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Mostly harmless
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posted November 13, 2006 10:39 PM |
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@ SBlister, Serpent's bite, Dreaded fog, Dwellers of the Deep (just change the name to Children of the tides), Adrenaline rush, Arts of war, Seafarer, Fetid bog
@ Golemcrafter, I think something like the tower theme from heroes III would be best, although I'd like to see some guitar and drums in heroes... Personally, I'd change the complete heroes soundtrack to this:
Haven - Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin or Knockin' on the Heaven's Door - Guns&Roses
Inferno - Highway to Hell - AC/DC or Hell Ain't a Bad Place to be - also AC/DC
Necropolis - Children of the Damned - Iron Maiden or Master of Puppets - Metallica
Dungeon - Tainted Love - Marilyn Manson or Fear of the Dark - Iron Maiden
Academy - Spellbound - AC/DC or Hypnotize - System of a Down
Sylvan - Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple or Question - System of a Down
Fortress - Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin or Another Brick in the Wall - Pin Floyd
Actually, for our town, Welcome to the Jungle by Guns&Roses would be perfect
There's probably more songs that would fit, but I can't seem to remember any at the moment
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SBlister
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posted November 13, 2006 10:54 PM |
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Edited by SBlister at 23:06, 13 Nov 2006.
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No no Baklava, Symphony of Destruction by Megadeth for Inferno!!!
Oh and btw, here's another argument why the Leviathans can be weaker creatures as level 7s... because their drain strength ability will eventually make them more powerful then when they started out...
Ok I think dwellers of the deep and arts of war will be added cuz they are good. the others are still left to contention. I was thinking for dwellers of the deep, this gives the nagas the ability to call upon some large sea creature to act as a ship and transport them around. We could call this creature dweller of the deep and leave it up to nival to come up with the creature concept, unless u guys have preferences (i forsee the names kraken and giant turtles propping up).
ps - I've put ur stats up Gnoll Mage on the Master Post. I would prefer to use Dreaded fog to enhance the quicksand ability the same way excruciating strike is used to enhance the mark of the damned ability.
I would also prefer to using battle stance or adrenaline rush as opposed to serpents bite because then too many units will have access to the poison ability. also its kinda cliche for the naga(aka snake people) to have a poison related ability.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted November 13, 2006 11:11 PM |
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I did in fact forget about having a weak level 7, so the stats for the Leviathan probably need looking at.
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SBlister
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posted November 13, 2006 11:17 PM |
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I think the Leviathan stats are fine....
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SBlister
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Rakshasa Commander
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posted November 15, 2006 03:48 AM |
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I guess everyone's busy playing Hammers of Fate. Damn. Can't wait to get my copy on the weekend.
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Ted
Promising
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Peanut Exterminator
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posted November 15, 2006 05:02 PM |
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Golemcrafter, I think something like the tower theme from heroes III would be best, although I'd like to see some guitar and drums in heroes... Personally, I'd change the complete heroes soundtrack to this:
Haven - Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin or Knockin' on the Heaven's Door - Guns&Roses
Inferno - Highway to Hell - AC/DC or Hell Ain't a Bad Place to be - also AC/DC
Necropolis - Children of the Damned - Iron Maiden or Master of Puppets - Metallica
Dungeon - Tainted Love - Marilyn Manson or Fear of the Dark - Iron Maiden
Academy - Spellbound - AC/DC or Hypnotize - System of a Down
Sylvan - Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple or Question - System of a Down
Fortress - Immigrant Song - Led Zeppelin or Another Brick in the Wall - Pin Floyd
Actually, for our town, Welcome to the Jungle by Guns&Roses would be perfect
There's probably more songs that would fit, but I can't seem to remember any at the moment
ROCK ON BROTHER!
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SBlister
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posted November 15, 2006 11:34 PM |
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For the name of the Leviathan booster building I would suggest something that the lizardmen would have constructed to give these creatures offerings of meat or whatever so that they would leave them alone. Only thing is i can't think of a specific name? Ideas anyone?
War-Overlord, we have to come to an agreement regarding the remaining abilities and with that being said, we still don't have a third racial ability. Suggestions people!
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I have a suggestion for the sorcery ability:
Something whereby the Hierophant drains X mana points from enemy hero every turn and uses it to randomly regenerate the shield points of a particular unit.
Either that or randomly blocks one spell in the enemy spellbook for the duration of combat depending on the level of sorcery skill (ie 3 spells blocked at expert, 2 at advanced, 1 at basic)
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yasmiel
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Former Chessmaster
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posted November 16, 2006 04:32 PM |
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I just noticed that fortress heroes have primary skills 0,1,2,2.... which is what we put to hierophant... so it needs a change...
Btw... 4 out of 5 points in magic skills for dwarves.... i didnt realise they were to be magic oriented...
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baklava
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Mostly harmless
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posted November 16, 2006 06:44 PM |
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For the name of the Leviathan booster building I would suggest something that the lizardmen would have constructed to give these creatures offerings of meat or whatever so that they would leave them alone. Only thing is i can't think of a specific name?
Altar of Offerings? Offering Shrine?
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Something whereby the Hierophant drains X mana points from enemy hero every turn and uses it to randomly regenerate the shield points of a particular unit.
Either that or randomly blocks one spell in the enemy spellbook for the duration of combat depending on the level of sorcery skill (ie 3 spells blocked at expert, 2 at advanced, 1 at basic)
I don't like the second one, but the first one might be ok
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SBlister
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posted November 17, 2006 12:03 AM |
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Altar of offering is awesome. lets stick with that.
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I just noticed that fortress heroes have primary skills 0,1,2,2.... which is what we put to hierophant... so it needs a change...
All we have to do is then change it to 1,0,2,2...
The only two things standing in the way of completion are:
1. Third Racial Skill
2. Ability for Sorcery
And then, and only then, shall the Temple be ready. Unleash the Naga!
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crepus
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Nuclear Power Plant
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posted November 17, 2006 01:20 AM |
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I also really like the Altar of Offerings.
And I'm thinking maybe that's what it should be, a bit like the Dungeon Sacrificial Pit?
Say that you need to sacrifice X hp to get one additional Leviathan for the next week (and not like Dungeon, for all coming weeks), an additional 2X ph for a +2 production, and so on, so that for a +Z production of leviathan one will need to offer (1+2+3+...+Z)*X worth of hp. My thought is that X would be somewhere in the vicinity of 150-250 hp, as in one weeks worth of level twos.
Comments on that one please?
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redoluit bacarum sambucus.
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SBlister
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posted November 17, 2006 05:28 AM |
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I disagree with the sacrificial thing. It would make the naga evil. whereas an offering could be dead animals they caught in the swamps.
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crepus
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Nuclear Power Plant
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posted November 17, 2006 12:29 PM |
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n that case maybe offering should be in gold? As in
For how much gold do you wish to buy animals for offering to the leviathan?
where it states how much more gold is needed for an additional lev to come the next week. And then let the amount of gold be about how much it costs to buy a batc of level 2s, as I said earlier.
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SBlister
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posted November 17, 2006 12:44 PM |
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Instead of gold, how bout resources. Every week theres a certain random amount of resources needed in order to appease the leviathan and boost their growth for that week. how bout that?
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Dragonbreath
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Me like dragons!
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posted November 17, 2006 12:51 PM |
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That would become annoying if you havn't flagged a bunch of resource generators. I'd just perfer some regular thing. Don't have a good name though...
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SBlister
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posted November 17, 2006 05:42 PM |
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Hmm... you've got a point dragonbreath... another quandary. Instead of gold lets just stick with resources... keep things simple is always the best.
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