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russ
Promising
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posted October 31, 2006 07:23 PM |
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Edited by russ at 19:24, 31 Oct 2006.
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Would you like to have your presidents being rotated every 2 weeks or so? So, everyone who wants to be a president will get a chance. You'll get to see different personalities, different people, etc.
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vhilhu
Famous Hero
We are NOT schysophren
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posted October 31, 2006 07:30 PM |
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Edited by vhilhu at 19:32, 31 Oct 2006.
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MAKE ME A MOD! then ill start editing all your posts that say anything bad about me into:"i am a little poopey and vhilhu ruulz."
actually this has happened once on a different forum. some really wrong guy got into a mod-postition and when i wrote "i have never played dungeon keeper" it changed in a few minutes to "dungeon keeper is the best game ever!!!!! and admins rUUUUle!!!!!!!!". and most annoying was that it didnt show that he had edited it on the right top corner, only my own editings were written there so it wasnt great.
so the rotation stuff should be very controlled, if it ever happens.
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Two little Gnoll boys sitting in the sun;
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One little Gnoll boy left all alone;
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kookastar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted October 31, 2006 07:37 PM |
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rip rip wood chip!!!
total chaos would reign supreme...
Val isn't here enough to deal with all this either.
I think Goootchie would make an interesting mod though 
Seriously!
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russ
Promising
Supreme Hero
blah, blah, blah
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posted October 31, 2006 07:38 PM |
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I think Goootchie would make an interesting mod though
Seriously!
 Ouch! 
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violent_flower
Promising
Supreme Hero
Almost there.
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posted October 31, 2006 08:46 PM |
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This is why there would be limitations and through the help of the computer literate MODS and others on here, things like editing posts and recognizing when they are not doing an appropriate job would be stopped before executed. We can be adults about it and not have chaos.
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Would you like to have your presidents being rotated every 2 weeks or so? So, everyone who wants to be a president will get a chance. You'll get to see different personalities, different people, etc.
Let’s not treat HC as though it is some sort of presidential election. This is a message board for people to express their gaming interest and their daily life random thoughts. The MODS are not responsible for running up a billion dollar deficit or making us the next third world country. That job belongs to George Bush and he does it well. So let’s not get so dramatic about this idea.
I think that it would be fun and it would spice things up a bit. I would like some serious feedback about it.
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I think Goootchie would make an interesting mod though
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I think so as well and along with him there are quite a few others that would be interesting to have on.
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LadyGuenivere
Known Hero
Spam Deep-Fryer Mod-Repellant
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posted October 31, 2006 09:05 PM |
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LG for the anti-mod!
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LadyGuenivere
Known Hero
Spam Deep-Fryer Mod-Repellant
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posted October 31, 2006 09:10 PM |
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LG for the anti-mod!
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luhvih
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 31, 2006 09:10 PM |
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LG:
resistance to mod: 50%
deals double damage to mods
double attack
attacks all adjacent threads
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kookastar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted October 31, 2006 09:15 PM |
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Some serious feedback? I didn't think this really was a serious proposal 
OK the amount of angst generated here over moderator actions - namely qps is already crazy.
There needs to be consistency which this proposal would clearly make near impossible.
There would be a tendency for 'payback', or for this week's mods to 'make amends' for the 'wrong jusgements' of the mods before them.
You are saying that the admin or others will have to moderate the mods!
There needs to be continuity - 2 weeks is not enough time to really complete any kind of task, so the next mod would be fixing and finishing the unfinished jobs of others which could lead to ill feelings.
There would be so much whining and scrutinisation of what the 'mods' were doing.
It would be giving access to areas Val likes to keep private - to a huge amount of people.
It would see a flood of qps that would devalue them even more.
People with contrasting views would be doing something only to have it changed the next week by someone else - or it would lead to committees, petitions, polls, and a beurocratic nightmare before anyone would be game to make any kind of decision.
Man there are so many things that make this idea unworkable that I cannot even begin to articlulate them all.
There is just no need for this whatsoever - I cannot see one advantage of this proposal. At all.
If you want any kind of rotation - then I would suggest a 'shift' meaning having mods on different time zones that are more likely to be here when the other isn't but I really see little value in this either.
There is nothing stopping community members contributing to the boards more without a modship.
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violent_flower
Promising
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Almost there.
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posted October 31, 2006 10:53 PM |
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Post copied from a vw thread when I realised you were serious here...
Do I sound sarcastic all the damn time?
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OK the amount of angst generated here over moderator actions - namely qps is already crazy.
Then maybe this needs to be addressed on several levels.
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There needs to be consistency which this proposal would clearly make near impossible.
Consistency can equally bore people as well as make the current MOD situation seem stagnant in responses.
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There would be a tendency for 'payback', or for this week's mods to 'make amends' for the 'wrong jusgements' of the mods before them.
This is not only juvenile but can also happen with current MODS just as
easily. If this is the case than why vote new MODS in at all. Do you think that there is no bad blood between the people that would be up for new moderator? Unless you have someone from the outside come in and moderate the threads whom can be completely objective, because they have no personal contact with anyone, then there is no way to avoid this.
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You are saying that the admin or others will have to moderate the mods!
Excuse my ignorance when it comes to HC. I have only been on here for a short time. I thought that the Administrators did somewhat control that aspect of HC. If a current MOD was to get out of control and abuse their seat then is it not the administrator’s duty to rectify the situation?
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There needs to be continuity - 2 weeks is not enough time to really complete any kind of task, so the next mod would be fixing and finishing the unfinished jobs of others which could lead to ill feelings.
Without putting too much thought into time frames this is just what came to me. It can be any time frame that the administrator sees fit. I was not too concerned with great detail, as this has not even been executed thus far.
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There would be so much whining and scrutinisation of what the 'mods' were doing.
If you refer back to specific threads in HC you will see that this is par for the course. People are already whining and snowing on here all the time.
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It would be giving access to areas Val likes to keep private - to a huge amount of people.
Again, as I stated before, I feel that the computer literate people could control this type of access to a certain degree before it happens. I’m not saying that it would not take a considerable amount of thought to execute this idea properly, however it could be done.
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It would see a flood of qps that would devalue them even more.
Again this would have to be controlled.
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People with contrasting views would be doing something only to have it changed the next week by someone else - or it would lead to committees, petitions, polls, and a beurocratic nightmare before anyone would be game to make any kind of decision.
So you extend the first proposal of a two-week MOD to a longer duration. To my knowledge we have petitions, polls, and certainly a beuro cratic nightmare on here anyway. Here is the consistency you were wanting.
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Man there are so many things that make this idea unworkable that I cannot even begin to articlulate them all.
With time and the right people to help set put this forward I think that it could work and would really bring a freshness to the board. Do you not think that ideas that are well written and successful take time to put into play? This would not be an overnight decision by any means.
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There is just no need for this whatsoever - I cannot see one advantage of this proposal. At all.
We have threads on here that state people are bored, they want knew games to play they want innovative ideas to spice things up a bit. This is what the need is and the people on here have stated so. Maybe it is something that you personal don’t like or you find it to confusing and can’t see beyond the problems with it to see the advantages of it. I understand that everyone has his or her own opinion.
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There is nothing stopping community members contributing to the boards more without a modship.
There is nothing stopping them from contributing more as a member, however there is something to be said for having a person in place that has contributed and has a different outlook then the current mods. It is all about perception and what one person may read as a BS thread another may read as life changing. It is just a way to let everyone have an equal place at one time or another on HC. Thank you for your comment and I must state that this has nothing to do with the lack of a great job that the current MODS are doing it is just an idea.
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RedSoxFan3
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Fan of Red Sox
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posted October 31, 2006 11:23 PM |
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I must disagree w/ you Violent Flower.
Switching in and out mods is a bad idea. If they have proven they can mod, then they can mod permanently and just be an extra person to help out.
However if we start taking in all kinds of temporary mods, then we'll have people who shouldn't be moderating and haven't proven themselves. There will be abuse of power in this case and favoritism. The current mods have proven themselves to be fair and objective. Anyone who thinks otherwise is seriously mistaken. People crying favoritism are just upset that they (or their friends) didn't get credit for what they thought was "QP Worthy." Furthermore these people are way too caught up in a silly website. I used to take this criticism seriously, but now I just shake my head.
There is a difference between politely voicing your opinion that a post deserves a QP and whining for QPs and getting upset that member A didn't deserve that QP. That is immature and often times members earn their QPs well before they even post whatever earned them that QP.
In Glade when the forum is active, I look at the overall contribution of a member and when I think they contributed enough, I find their best post and award a QP. Often times most members will get at least 1 QP if they remain active and put in consistant good effort.
And anyone saying that any mod has been playing favorites, that's total bs. Stiven played that card for years and people bought it. You are mistaken. All of the mods have proven to the community that they are objective and responsible and all of them do their best to always be objective and responsible.
The problem is not the moderator, but immature members and posters.
And I can bet you that if we did take on members like Consis, Peacemaker, etc...
They would just end up agreeing that the moderation is fine and I bet you that they do agree that the moderation is perfectly fine as is right now. Plus these members probably don't even want to moderate.
Anyway back please stop posting this arguement here, post it in Tribunal if you wish to continue. This place is for spam and spam only.
GO HAM SANDWICH! I LOVE YOU HAM SANDWICH!!!
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the_gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted October 31, 2006 11:26 PM |
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I vote for a ham sandwich.
As for me being a mod, I bandied that idea around with Hexa and Romana a long time ago. Thanks for the vote of confidence hotcakes but I'll pass for a few reasons.
1. I'm evil.
2. I say naughty things to people.
3. I hurt their feelings too.
4. I'd only volunteer my time if I felt I could do a better job. Since I think we have a damn fine crew that's going pretty good on automatic I know I have nothing to offer.
5. I'm too much of an alpha in the realm of cyberspace. There is only room for one alpha here and he is the grand poobah of this joint.
6. If I became a mod I'd have to do things like *ugh* participate in conversations with other mods.
7. I'd also have to field complaints from disgruntled members and pretend to validate their feelings. Trust me, it would only be a matter of time before I told the next whiner, "QQ more n00b! SuXzorZzz it up!11"
8. The mods know I'm a jerk and they've been given strict orders to prevent me from getting 15 qps. I warned Val a long time ago that if I did get to that magic number I'd make some changes to the way threads are labelled. For example, anything I saw that was started by Aculias I'd label, 'garble'.
9. I love to have fun. Anytime my fun starts feeling like a job I get the heck out of dodge. Soon after I'd start players would complain to other mods, besides the nasty things I'd say about their mothers, about my prolonged absences momentarily interrupted by whirlwinds of mass deletions.
10. And finally, I'd set up my paypal account to accept cash for qps.
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted October 31, 2006 11:30 PM |
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the Gootch for Admin!
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violent_flower
Promising
Supreme Hero
Almost there.
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posted October 31, 2006 11:38 PM |
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]quote]I vote for a ham sandwich.
I love a good sandwich…
As for me being a mod, I bandied that idea around with Hexa and Romana a long time ago. Thanks for the vote of confidence hotcakes but I'll pass for a few reasons.
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1. I'm evil.
Not evil justified.
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2. I say naughty things to people.
I like it when you say naughty things.
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3. I hurt their feelings too.
Don’t you mean feeling?
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8. The mods know I'm a jerk and they've been given strict orders to prevent me from getting 15 qps. I warned Val a long time ago that if I did get to that magic number I'd make some changes to the way threads are labelled. For example, anything I saw that was started by Aculias I'd label, 'garble'.
Poor Aculias!!!!
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9. I love to have fun. Anytime my fun starts feeling like a job I get the heck out of dodge.
Funny, I feel the same way about my relationships
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10. And finally, I'd set up my paypal account to accept cash for qps.
You would share would you not?
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the_gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted October 31, 2006 11:58 PM |
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Sure I would.
"Babycakes, Metos just made Honorable. Barolo's on me tonight!!!"
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Consis
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Of Ruby
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posted November 01, 2006 06:43 AM |
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Edited by Consis at 06:46, 01 Nov 2006.
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Bah!
Evil or not . . . I'd be a better effin mod than you any day of the effin week. Kahluajar iz effin nutz.
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 01, 2006 06:55 AM |
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Being a great writer does not make you Moderator material.
I totally 100% Absolutely disagree with you on everythang you said Violent Flower.
For one just because you can make a paragraph it doesn not make you better then the other person.
For 2 switching off Moderators is a terrible idea.
Many never even come to the other forums, they stay with thier own.
Like in TOH or heroes 4-5 forums. They can care less about the Tavern & the VW.
There is more to being a moderator then just writing paragraphs.
Now Now Kooka & Violent Flower, no cat fighting now 
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pandora
Honorable
Legendary Hero
The Chosen One
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posted November 01, 2006 02:59 PM |
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Stop copying the same reply in multiple threads, the deja vu I'm experiencing is starting to make my head spin
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violent_flower
Promising
Supreme Hero
Almost there.
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posted November 01, 2006 04:09 PM |
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Being a great writer does not make you Moderator material.
Ok, my little sweetie pie did you not finish reading where I responded to the whole “you shouldn’t have to be a good writer in order to be a MOD?” Yet it is amazing how I have explained myself over again and some refuse to listen. *Smashes tired head on keyboard over and over again *
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I totally 100% Absolutely disagree with you on everythang you said Violent Flower.
Even the part where I support the whinny *** as crap that spews out of your mouth on a constant basis. If you don’t like the idea that is fine, but wanting to introduce something new is not a bad thing. It is not like I came up with the idea to dress up snows like nuns and send them to Sunday school.
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For one just because you can make a paragraph it doesn not make you better then the other person.
Nevr onse seid this, I ws simpleey pointing ot a FEW qualityies that sum of the peple have on hear that I felt wood contribute tasteefully. Ur rite u do not hve to beable to rite well to b a MOD. I just feel that havin a good understanding of suck ritings and the englush laugwage can help this prosssses.
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Many never even come to the other forums, they stay with thier own.
I have stated that I don’t have a full understanding of HC yet. I don’t even go to the gaming forums. The detail again (as already stated) was not something I had put myself into much, just an idea. A rough draft to put it out here is all I did. If a certain unnamed person would have read through the posts that unnamed person could have saved him the trouble of writing this cute little comment.
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Now Now Kooka & Violent Flower, no cat fighting now
Koochiestar and I are not fighting my claws have not ejected yet; I’m just kneading the posts and contemplating the idea that they may. Much love...
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted November 01, 2006 05:03 PM |
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Cute, mean & aggressive. Sheesh
Violent said: "I have stated that I don’t have a full understanding of HC yet. I don’t even go to the gaming forums."
THANK YOU! You just answered your own question about rotating  .
I know your new & have not visited but some mods are just not interested in other forum.
Dont you think I am just adorable when I am sarcastic 
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