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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Do you want the old heroes again in HOMM5?
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VokialBG
VokialBG


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posted November 07, 2006 03:28 PM

Poll Question:
Do you want the old heroes again in HOMM5?

Do you want the old HOMM3 and 4 Heroes back in HOMM5?

Responses:
Yes!
No
Don't care
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted November 07, 2006 04:20 PM

I don't understand what you're asking ... So can't very well vote.

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vhilhu
vhilhu


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We are NOT schysophren
posted November 07, 2006 04:39 PM
Edited by vhilhu at 16:41, 07 Nov 2006.

yes. not all of course, but the key chars got to be there. i dont know what was ubival thinking, they had got all the homm rights, including hero names, after all.

namely:
Sandro, Solmyr, Crag Hack, Gem, Gaudolth, Alamar, Darkstorn, Jeddite, Theolonius. probably i forgot a few.
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Geny
Geny


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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 07, 2006 05:34 PM

I voted no. I know they were beloved heroes and I miss them too, but that doesn't mean I want to bring them back from the dead. Face it: HOMM 1-4 worlds ARE DEAD. Yes there are similiar factions, but they're not identical to those of homm3 (except maybe haven), ubi/nival may make heroes similiar to Solmyr or Sandro but putting those exact heroes in another world just don't make any sense. The only way I can think of to bring them back is to make some sort of tribute scenario...

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vhilhu
vhilhu


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We are NOT schysophren
posted November 07, 2006 05:38 PM

EVERY homm is in another world. (sorry people i dont remember where homm1 was) homm2 was Enroth. homm3 was Antagarich. homm4 was Axeoth. homm5 was Ashan.

its a tradition to destory the old world in every new homm, but let the heroes remain.

And about Sandro dying in a heros biography, Sandro has died several times before, it really shouldnt matter
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 07, 2006 05:50 PM

Yes every homm was in another world (I think homm1 was in Enroth as well), but there was a connection between the worlds. In SoD Gem's campaign began with her memories of the wars in Enroth, and I think that Queen Catherine was connected to Enroth somehow (don't remember how). In the beginning of homm4 it was stated that the world (meaning Enroth and Antagarich) was destroyed but many creatures and heroes escaped to the lands of Axeoth. Heroes 5 is the only game so far that began with absolutely no connection to the previous worlds, and according to its history and mythology I don't think a connection can be made, except of course another dimensional portal, but I personally had enough of those.

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KnightDougal
KnightDougal


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posted November 07, 2006 06:00 PM

Quote:

namely:
Sandro


Hehehe, Sandro is killed by Cyrus, and Markal, who avange it... but tat feature is a very good idea...

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Lord_Woock
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posted November 07, 2006 06:09 PM

Quote:
EVERY homm is in another world. (sorry people i dont remember where homm1 was) homm2 was Enroth. homm3 was Antagarich. homm4 was Axeoth. homm5 was Ashan.
Hardly even true.

HoMM1 and HoMM2 were both set in Enroth, but Enroth is not an entire world. Unless Europe and Australia are different worlds that is. Seriously, the intro to HoMM3 shows Catherine returning from Enroth to Erathia by ship. And it didn't appear to be particularly high-tech or magical.

Nations and continents =/= worlds.
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vhilhu
vhilhu


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We are NOT schysophren
posted November 07, 2006 06:39 PM

never heard of the New World, have you?
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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted November 07, 2006 08:55 PM

Heroes I want back:

Gauldoth
Nimbus
Sandro
Mezizto
Hexis
Ash
Ayden
Fiona
Tanimika
Mohandor
Starker
Luna
Xarfax
Rashaka
Ajit
Dace
Darkstorn[m]
Xyron
Jeddite
Fafner
Paulos
Astral
Solymr
Lord Haart
Christian
Sorsha
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GenieLord
GenieLord


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posted November 07, 2006 09:01 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 00:50, 11 Nov 2006.

Quote:
Heroes I want back:

Gauldoth
Nimbus
Sandro
Mezizto
Hexis
Ash
Ayden
Fiona
Tanimika
Mohandor
Starker
Luna
Xarfax
Rashaka
Ajit
Dace
Darkstorn[m]
Xyron
Jeddite
Fafner
Paulos
Astral
Solymr
Lord Haart
Christian
Sorsha


This is a wounderful list.

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Yann
Yann


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posted November 08, 2006 01:09 AM
Edited by Yann at 01:12, 08 Nov 2006.

Don't forget Ivor! Also I wish to support the fact that the setting of each Heroes game is not on a different world but on a different continent. Perhaps Heroes in the future can unite these lands in one game, thus bringing back old beloved Heroes. How did Nicolai get to Ashan and how was Heroes able to mention certain Heroes? I believe if you mention some you must in some way connect to all the others and therefore connect all the history together. This is one thing that is hindering Heroes 5 as its history is quite vague compartively speaking. I am glad this topic has been brought up for it is a major issue in the Heroes of Might and Magic world.

Also do not say that all of these Heroes are dead for many Heroes such as Nicolai lived during the time of Heroes III.  

Lord Woock might see it this way.
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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

Disgraceful

posted November 08, 2006 03:11 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 19:21, 09 Nov 2006.

Quote:
Don't forget Ivor! Also I wish to support the fact that the setting of each Heroes game is not on a different world but on a different continent. Perhaps Heroes in the future can unite these lands in one game, thus bringing back old beloved Heroes. How did Nicolai get to Ashan and how was Heroes able to mention certain Heroes? I believe if you mention some you must in some way connect to all the others and therefore connect all the history together. This is one thing that is hindering Heroes 5 as its history is quite vague compartively speaking. I am glad this topic has been brought up for it is a major issue in the Heroes of Might and Magic world.

Also do not say that all of these Heroes are dead for many Heroes such as Nicolai lived during the time of Heroes III.  

Lord Woock might see it this way.


Yes Ivor should be back to!

Heroes III: King Gryphonheart ressurected as a lich
Heroes V: King Nicolai ressurected as a lich

Deyja vu?
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Geny
Geny


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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 08, 2006 04:44 PM

My memory is failing me... please remind where did Nicolay appear in Heroes III?

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yasmiel
yasmiel


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Former Chessmaster
posted November 08, 2006 05:14 PM

He apeared in H3 RoE intro,.. well, actualy he was just mentioned by Catherine... so Nicolai is son of Roland and Catherine Gryphonheart

HOWEVER... thats is not the SAME nicolai as in H5

I think we should give old heroes a well deserved rest, and NOT bring them back in H5 world... tho they can be back in separate scenarios and stories...

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Fortress_fan
Fortress_fan

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posted November 08, 2006 05:14 PM

Quote:
My memory is failing me... please remind where did Nicolay appear in Heroes III?
He was the son of Queen Chaterine.
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Yann
Yann


Adventuring Hero
posted November 09, 2006 12:26 AM
Edited by Yann at 00:27, 09 Nov 2006.

Quote:
He apeared in H3 RoE intro,.. well, actualy he was just mentioned by Catherine... so Nicolai is son of Roland and Catherine Gryphonheart

HOWEVER... thats is not the SAME nicolai as in H5

I think we should give old heroes a well deserved rest, and NOT bring them back in H5 world... tho they can be back in separate scenarios and stories...



What do mean by different stories? Do you mean a completely different world or the same world just on a different "land mass". Also tell me how you know that the Nicolais are not the same.






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yasmiel
yasmiel


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Former Chessmaster
posted November 09, 2006 09:12 AM
Edited by yasmiel at 09:13, 09 Nov 2006.

IT Could be just a different planet, but i think Nival/Ubi made it clear that whole Universe is new, so dont expect anything from old heroes (except in references, like Crag and Sandro)

How i know that it isnt the same Nicolay? Well, different universe answers that.

Btw, i think theres even a diference in name... in H3, there was Nicolai, while in H5 we have Nicolay. I might be wrong on this one tho.

By separate stories i mean "non-campaign/non settled in world of ashan" stories.

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KnightDougal
KnightDougal


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Famous Hero
posted November 09, 2006 04:16 PM

Quote:
Heroes I want back:

Gauldoth
Nimbus
Sandro
Mezizto
Hexis
Ash
Ayden
Fiona
Tanimika
Mohandor
Starker
Luna
Xarfax
Rashaka
Ajit
Dace
Darkstorn[m]
Xyron
Jeddite
Fafner
Paulos
Astral
Solymr
Lord Haart
Christian
Sorsha


I ALREADY SAID:

Sandro is killed by Cyrus

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yasmiel
yasmiel


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Former Chessmaster
posted November 09, 2006 10:26 PM

And i already said... that isnt same sandro ...

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