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Aculias
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posted February 18, 2007 09:31 PM

I disagree when it comes to these days & times.
15 yr olds are old enough to buy alot of stuff now .

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the_gootch
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posted February 18, 2007 09:46 PM
Edited by the_gootch at 21:47, 18 Feb 2007.

?! Oh my. Someone got lost on their way over to Temple of Ashan

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The only love where there is true beauty is in the love to God. And don't talk to me like an American negro boy, everyone knows that we Europeans (not including French people) are much smarter than you human-like walking Danish pastries called Americans (does not include Moral Majority).



"Foolishness abounds in the hearts of Euro children.  But the heavy handed rod of american correction shall driveth it far from them."

Gospel according to St. Gootch.  2:15

Who the heck is Fortress_Fan anyway?  Let's see...Swedish...check...hates abortion....check...stands on a pulpit passing down adolescent judgements on others...check.

Aha!

You're Ruby's younger brother!

Get lost kid.  You barge on a thread that celebrates the sacrament of the love of a man and a woman speaking your nonsense.  Spare us your childish piety and stick to what you know, which is how to bathe and feed yourself.  


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Fortress_fan
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posted February 18, 2007 10:06 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 22:22, 18 Feb 2007.

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The only love where there is true beauty is in the love to God. And don't talk to me like an American negro boy, everyone knows that we Europeans (not including French people) are much smarter than you human-like walking Danish pastries called Americans (does not include Moral Majority).



"Foolishness abounds in the hearts of Euro children.  But the heavy handed rod of american correction shall driveth it far from them."

Gospel according to St. Gootch.  2:15

Who the heck is Fortress_Fan anyway?  Let's see...Swedish...check...hates abortion....check...stands on a pulpit passing down adolescent judgements on others...check.

Aha!

You're Ruby's younger brother!

Get lost kid.  You barge on a thread that celebrates the sacrament of the love of a man and a woman speaking your nonsense.  Spare us your childish piety and stick to what you know, which is how to bathe and feed yourself.  



Ahh, one of the ones who killed countless of our bellowed German brethren (including WW1 where they really hadn't done anything wrong). One of the sex-addicted, rap-listening, baby spanking brutes who probably eat on McDonalds every Sunday (Who is Ruby anyway?).

How dear you to call sex a sacrament!? To do that is worse than fornication, it is blasphemery!

I do not know more than to bathe and feed myself. I bet that my knowledge in History is way higher than yours!

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Aculias
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posted February 18, 2007 10:10 PM

Then give us all a favor & dont make a bad habbit studying the bible 24/7
I sence radical behavior.

Your old enough to know better in this time of age.
Your way too young to be worrying about all that stuff anyways.
You should be in school & playing outside some tag

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the_gootch
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posted February 18, 2007 10:23 PM
Edited by the_gootch at 22:32, 18 Feb 2007.

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Ahh, one of the ones who killed countless of our bellowed German brethren (including WW1 where they really hadn't done anything wrong). One of the sex-addicted, rap-listening, baby spanking brutes who probably eat on McDonalds every Sunday (Who is Ruby anyway?).


?  I haven't killed a single german in my life kid.  Oh.  I get it.  Yeah.  Well.  Ask your local Belgians what they thought of Germany invading their country during WW I.

Sex-addicted?  That's debateable.  Rap-listening?  Sorry.  I got tired of Abba and Ace of Base.  Baby spanking brute?  I don't spank babies.  But I sure as hell am a brute.  Ooh-rah!  And ever since McDonald's introduced the value menu you're right I hit it every chance I get.  It's cheaper than going to the grocery store.

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How dear you to call sex a sacrament!? To do that is worse than fornication it is blasphemery!


And this is why children aren't allowed to speak at the dinner table when adults are conversating.

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I do not know more than to bathe and feed myself.


I stand corrected.  Thank you.

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I bet that my knowledge in History is way higher than your!


Uh.  Please refer to your quip about germans not really doing anything wrong in WW I.  

Wait.  Let's add your support of George W. Bush to this conversation.  In invading Iraq he has shown a profound ignorance of the history of the region.  He completely disregarded the experience and wisdom of his father in this matter.  

But you're such an astute historian and a fine example of the superiority of the Scandinavian education system you must have already known that.

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Your old enough to know better in this time of age.
Your way too young to be worrying about all that stuff anyways.
You should be in school & playing outside some tag



That's right.  And as we all know in Sweden, whoever's It during a game of tag is called the Norwegian.  

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A beautiful thread.



It still can be.  I imagine some cleaning up is going to be required; some of this literary euro graffiti is going to need to be removed.

And mine as well.

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Fortress_fan
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posted February 19, 2007 02:46 PM
Edited by Fortress_fan at 15:03, 19 Feb 2007.

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?  I haven't killed a single german in my life kid.  Oh.  I get it.  Yeah.  Well.  Ask your local Belgians what they thought of Germany invading their country during WW I.


I never claimed you had, but your forefathers clearly have. Yes, invading Belgium was not only inhonourable, but also petty dumb (Getting an empire consisting of 10% the world against you for a tiny piece of land?)

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Sex-addicted?  That's debateable.  Rap-listening?  Sorry.  I got tired of Abba and Ace of Base.  Baby spanking brute?  I don't spank babies.  But I sure as hell am a brute.  Ooh-rah!  And ever since McDonald's introduced the value menu you're right I hit it every chance I get.  It's cheaper than going to the grocery store.

I never claimed that Swedish music is good, but rap should does not even deserve to be called music (Drums and a person who does not even sing?).

Let me guess that you weight more than 80 kilos...

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And this is why children aren't allowed to speak at the dinner table when adults are conversating.

Are you living at the 50:thies?


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I stand corrected.  Thank you.

It was a typo, it should have been an question mark at the end of the sentence.

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Uh.  Please refer to your quip about germans not really doing anything wrong in WW I.


It was the Central powers who where attacked. The Serbian Black Hand killed the Austrian crownprince and the government of Serbia refused to search after them.

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Wait.  Let's add your support of George W. Bush to this conversation.  In invading Iraq he has shown a profound ignorance of the history of the region.  He completely disregarded the experience and wisdom of his father in this matter.  

But you're such an astute historian and a fine example of the superiority of the Scandinavian education system you must have already known that.


He liberated Iraq from their dictator and established democracy (but not lasting peace). I see nothing wrong in that.

And I never claimed that the Scandinavian education system is good, little discipline, weak punishments, bad food etc.

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violent_flower
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posted February 19, 2007 07:02 PM

Take your crap out of my thread..... This can go to the Wastelands. Gootchy will make you summit over there.

In the red corner we have the strong, sexy, and well-mannered Gootch.. (Ok I stretched it a bit, just the well-mannered part.)

In the blue corner we have the bashing, Bible thumping babbling diapered child...

Goodbye now...

You will be missed..

There is a reason why you have -3 Qp's.. Check yourself...      

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the_gootch
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posted February 19, 2007 07:10 PM
Edited by the_gootch at 19:24, 19 Feb 2007.

This is what I get for admonishing boys whose voices haven't cracked yet

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I never claimed you had, but your forefathers clearly have.


And this is a bad thing?  Last I checked world wars meant just that.  Is there any particular reason why you're singling out the US for its involvement in killing germans?  I mean, besides our exceeding efficiency at it?

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but rap should does not even deserve to be called music (Drums and a person who does not even sing?).


I see precious little difference between rappers of today and bards of yore.  I see precious little difference between the great storytellers of ancient cultures(Beowulf anyone?) and the masters of hip-hop.  Rock & roll became stale and uninteresting towards the late '80s.  Hip-hop has been fresh, innovative, and cutting edge for the last 20 years.  

But I understand the game; knock whatever it is you don't like or even comprehend.  When I was your age the rage on the streets, at least with the girls, was New Kids on the Block; aka white New Edition.  God I hated them.  Girls loved them.  The guys called them gay.  Did we know they were in fact gay?  Nope.  But that was besides the point.

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Let me guess that you weight more than 80 kilos...



Trust a Euro to not even give me the common courtesy of a conversion.  I weigh 88 kilos.  And it's all muscle, the largest one being of course my mouth.

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Are you living at the 50:thies?



In twenty years you'll understand and you'll want to speed choke the next prepubescent kid that starts shooting off his mouth in your presence.

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He liberated Iraq from their dictator and established democracy (but not lasting peace). I see nothing wrong in that.



You're like an anti-SirDunco...all the rhetoric sans the godless, commie, heathen socialist angle.  This is where ideals without experience is going to get you into trouble.  You need to have a framework for a successful democracy to take root.  There was no plan for the sectarian violence that erupted after Saddam was toppled.  Evidently god didn't warn my president about the long simmering resentments between Sunnis and Shiites when he was directing him to undertake his great crusade.    

More to the point, as Lith so aptly pointed out, the U.S. invasion of Iraq was illegal by international law.  My nation declared a preemptive war on Iraq using completely fabricated evidence.  My president is a liar and it is my strongest belief that had former president Clinton not been impeached, Bush would be.  My nation is being led by a pack of scoundrels if there ever were any.  And I pray for the day this administration is taken out of office so we may start the long, generation spanning process of repairing the damage they have done to our nation and our international prestige.

So I'm going to try to redirect you kid.  What is your beef with this thread?  It is the title of a poem and a beautiful one at that.  I've yet to hear any objection from any of the parents who frequent this place about the subject matter.  

Yes the title is racy.  You will find, should you decide to remain here, that Violent_Flower's compelling work is filled with double entendres, this one notwithstanding.  She is an adult writer for an adult audience.  I seriously doubt that kids will have the patience to even read her writing once they find out it doesn't have anything to do with games or them.

Even so, Other Side of the Monitor is where we get to talk about real life issues with out peers.  Val seems to have accepted that the Community has matured enough over the last five years that he's willing to allow open discussions about adult topics.

As for the piece itself, what compels you to call it immoral?  The act of making love between a husband and a wife?  That's immoral?  Were you born under a cabbage leaf?  Were you delivered to your parents by a Stork named Sven?  

You've made it very clear that you're religious.  You were raised a certain way.  And that way is the thought the belief that sex out of wedlock is sinful and even in wedlock it should only serve the purpose to procreate so that god's kingdom may be expanded.  You've been taught to be ignorant son.  And you've been taught to embrace your ignorance by hurling scripture at every minor sin you've been brain-washed to believe.

You've every right to remain ignorant.  What you do not have the right to do is come here as a child in an adult world and petition the mods or even Val to censor a topic that you clearly have no clue about.  Your inexperienced voice is not recognized and one way or another you will be silenced should you continue to pursue your disruptive behavior here.

It's your choice.  I for one recommend sitting down, shutting up, and learning to read with a more open mind.
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Consis
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posted February 19, 2007 11:04 PM
Edited by Consis at 23:04, 19 Feb 2007.

Eh . . .

I feel I should type something at this juncture. Being that I am of sound mind and stable body, it is very possible that I might even still have nothing to say. Within this possibility lies an undiscovered truth: listening can be a challenging skill to those who have been taught to dictate their edics in the most offensive way.

Having said as much, I have noticed that in some cases it might be helpful to at the very least communicate said edic in the recipient's native tongue. Otherwise, how on earth would the recipient truly be made aware of your own superiority and greatness? After all some humans are better than others, especially the humans that God speaks to personally.

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posted February 19, 2007 11:54 PM

Hum, so.. do we need a moderator here then?

Let me offer some advice... Consis - what the heck are you drinking, and why aren't you sharing?

Fortress_Fan, its become understood by most that the Otherside is a place where those of us who are older can go and talk about whatever we like without worry of what children might think. There have been a lot of sensitive discussions about a lot of issues that would be well over the heads of many 15 year old and under kids.

Clearly you are all about censorship based on your own personal views of what is right and what is wrong. That's great for you - but please don't attempt to censor others when its clearly uncalled for. You find that you are lacking the maturity to read something like this poem and see it for what it truly is - so you should not be reading or posting here. It's really that simple.

You're writing in defense of other little kids who might be somehow harmed by a beautiful piece of writing - well I'm happy to let you know that for the most part the kids that you're worried about are arguing over unit strenth and strategy in other forums - they are not here.

Please make an effort to understand that it is always your option not to read something. If the post violates the code of conduct in a way that you feel needs to be addressed, contact a moderator - by writing in this thread the way you have it's now been completely polluted and derailed. Not good.

If you make a comment like
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And don't talk to me like an American negro boy, everyone knows that we Europeans (not including French people) are much smarter than you human-like walking Danish pastries called Americans (does not include Moral Majority).
again, expect to be penalized. If I'm somehow misreading you and this isn't a blatantly racist comment, please let me know.

And finally

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You are risking their morale and therby their place in heaven


I don't know much of Heroes 4 or 5 - but I do know in Heroes 3 when morale is an issue you can always get a Badge of Courage, Crest of Valour or Glyph of Gallantry to help you out, or of course - learn Leadership.


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posted February 20, 2007 12:50 AM

Thank you Panda Bear....you can say it much nicer than I...
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posted February 20, 2007 04:58 PM

What . . .

A man can't pull a 'Celfious' once in a while? My post was spam. I was spamming in the only way I know how: spit out nonsense and keep spitting until the real spammer leaves from confusion & frustration.
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posted February 20, 2007 05:29 PM

Yup

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I'm happy to let you know that for the most part the kids that you're worried about are arguing over unit strength and strategy in other forums - they are not here.

There might be a few who visit here, but for the most part I'd say this is true. I recall a young Wolfman and a young Ruby visiting the Other Side of the Monitor. I find it very interesting when a young person comes here with such passion. It's a rare thing that provides plenty of food for thought. I certainly enjoy it.

I'd say Fortress_Fan is extremely passionate about what he believes in. I won't fault him for his enthusiasm. I would simply ask that he try to consider the opinions of other people before making his remarks. It's clear that he doesn't and I understand that being young means you haven't yet broken through certain mental limitations. I'd say those limitations encompass larger/greater concepts mostly having to do with "walking a mile in another man's shoes". I feel your mental conceptual horizans are greatly expanded once you can imaginatively empathize and compassionately sympathize with those persons you disagree with.
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homam
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posted March 24, 2007 02:06 AM

I don't know for u gyes but me after i make love i always smoke!!

Seriously now i just loved the poem
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homam
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posted March 24, 2007 07:25 PM

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"After we make love"? This thread is against the Holy Morale! Imagine if some of the HOMM juniors (I know nine year old kids who are quite got at HV) look at this thread! They will become what you unmorally scum call "horny". I want this thread locked and permanently removed!

the only "horny" in this tread is your mind and not the tread at all. I 'm sure your are the only one fortress_fan in this tread who understand something like that.So don't speak about morale and ethics while u are thinking about this unmorally.

There is no horny stuff here.Only horny minds..
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posted March 24, 2007 08:53 PM

Nice discussing of the poem, violent_flower!

Fortress fan, If you really believe in God, why all the Anti-KD()...activity? God says to love everyone, doesn't He? I hardly think what you have done in HC is sin, but as a Christian you should be more open minded.

Whoever said that sex is sin anyway? It can't be God's will that humans get extinct. As long as they're over 18 and married, God shouldn't care. I see nothing sinful in this thread or the poem.

Bottom line: Fortress_Fan is wrong, everyone else is right, back on topic
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posted March 26, 2007 11:28 PM

To The_Gootch

hey dude i completely with u in all u said to the kid.
But an out of topic note:You can't say that rap or hip-hop is better than rock.And what's wrong with ace of base?They are my favorite


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posted March 27, 2007 04:39 PM
Edited by baklava at 16:43, 27 Mar 2007.

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It was the Central powers who where attacked. The Serbian Black Hand killed the Austrian crownprince and the government of Serbia refused to search after them.

LOL I totally missed this post! I just noticed it now...
Austrians killed 725.000 Serbs in the war (Serbia had a population of only 4.5 million at the time)... That's not a crime of course. We deserved it because a Bosnian guy shot a man.
I kinda miss Fortress_Fan...
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Awesome poem (like you didn't know that yourself )...
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posted April 07, 2007 09:00 PM
Edited by pandora at 21:43, 07 Apr 2007.


I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And every one was an Henry (Henry)
She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry
Henry the eighth I am

Second verse same as the first

I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And every one was an Henry (Henry)
She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry
Henry the eighth I am

------ lead guitar ------

I'm Henry the eighth I am
Henry the eighth I am, I am
I got married to the widow next door
She's been married seven times before
And every one was an Henry (Henry)
She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam)
I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry
Henry the eighth I am

H-E-N-R-Y
Henry (Henry)
Henry (Henry)
Henry the eighth I am, I am
Henry the eighth I am

Yeah!



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posted April 07, 2007 09:41 PM
Edited by baklava at 21:41, 07 Apr 2007.

Never mind.
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