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bixie
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posted December 28, 2006 10:54 AM

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Everything... You stole exactly EVERYTHING from Warhammer 40k. Are you sure you want to embarass yourself so much to send this to Nival?


Errrrm, not everything! They are good. They are owrship their warboss! They are worshipped the Metal Dragon! They have got other story!


alright, not quite everthing! but remember what we've told you on the altar of wishes forum.

no guns or tanks. mad clockwork creations and steam engines are fine (don't you dare try and use them!) but guns, tanks, stuff like that is just ridiculous. thats why the forge was scrapped. use instead, other sources and more *ahem* primitive weapons.

i also see no referance to female orcs, in this. are the settlement orcs completely asexual and breed like mushrooms?


famale are do not fight. But see: they are uses tanks and guns. They found a magical artifact, what they can bluid the Forge with. In the forge they done some modern weapons: guns, tanks, etc. So the Settlement is modern. They lives in clans.


you see, thats the main problem...

my veiw about the orcs being mushrooms is going to be quite common if you don't have some female heroes.

also, thats the reason the forge went down. magical artifact should remain magical, not go into technology or anything like that. many fans did want because it didn't fit with the theme. orcs living in clans (tribes) is alright, as it is a common veiw in fantasy world, but using high-tech weapons like guns, lasers, tanks etc should remain in Sci-fi. sci-fi and fantasy don't really mix, with the exception of rise of legends.


they do not uses laser. They only uses tanks and guns.


you see, that is the problem. people are going to associate it with tanks, guns and lasers because it uses such advanced weaponary. and thats where the fundamental theoritical ballance issue comes in. if you have a gun and another guy has a bow and arrow, who would win.

you with the gun. guns make everything short and painful. even if you give them similar stats to other similar level creatures, people are still going to say "he's got a gun, why hasn't he killed that person yet?".

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posted December 28, 2006 03:44 PM

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Errrrm, not everything! They are good. They are owrship their warboss! They are worshipped the Metal Dragon! They have got other story!


So you copied all the rest of the things?!?!
Please, put a list of all the places you copied from.

The chreature names copied from Warhammer, but others are not copyed from anything.


Still, you have to put a credit.
Even if you put just one creature.

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posted December 30, 2006 10:42 PM
Edited by KnightDougal at 22:42, 30 Dec 2006.

okay
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posted December 31, 2006 01:22 AM

I don't want to be disrespectful but there are flaws on so many different levels to the point I am bored to point out where.Try something else,this is doomed.Seriously.
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KnightDougal
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posted December 31, 2006 12:20 PM

No! It isn't! It will be in the game!
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posted December 31, 2006 01:04 PM

It's just a copy of Warhammer, why don't you play Dawn of War instead of trying to mix it with Heroes?


Sorry, it's a good effort but you've got the wrong idea. Anything remotely technological does not fit into heroes, will never fit into heroes, and will never be put into Heroes, thankfully we can be assured of that. Not even muskets, which are sometimes used in conjunction with fantasy because they weren't invented that much after the Medieval era (I don't know exactly), and even in warhammer the dwarves use primitive muskets and cannons, but not even these kinda acceptable technology are used, let alone tanks and guns.


And basically, the creators would get sued to hell if they included this in their game. They would be ruined by Games Workshop, absolutely ruined for plagiarism. It will never happen. It doesnt matter if you have a slight deviant of the story.

I'm not even trying to be mean or a harsh judge or anything, but this has no chance.




I think if you tried again, thought up your own setting, your own creatures (and creature names), with an original idea, and think how it relates to the existing factions in Heroes, and make sure it blends in well enough that you can't tell that it's just been added in. Then you will have a good idea.


Your two main failures are lack of originality, and that the theme doesn't at all fit into Heroes.
You can't even look past that at the other details, it all doesn't matter.


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william
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posted December 31, 2006 01:20 PM

I agree entirely with TA, just a copy of Warhammer.

Come up with your own original ideas and then place them into a town that might be more suitable for a Heroes Game.

Otherwise if you are just going to do this all the time, then do not even bother, simple as that.
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GenieLord
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posted December 31, 2006 02:34 PM

Hey! You didn't put any credit to Warhammer!
You need to write that you copied almost everything from them, you know...

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KnightDougal
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posted December 31, 2006 05:01 PM
Edited by KnightDougal at 17:02, 31 Dec 2006.

how I can give them credit?
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posted December 31, 2006 05:08 PM

Well you basically copied everything from them, it is very easy to give them credit, or better yet make up your own thing with your OWN ideas, originality often is the best.
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KnightDougal
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posted December 31, 2006 05:31 PM

what you saying?
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GenieLord
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posted December 31, 2006 06:50 PM

I think what you should write is *Thank to Warhammer for the ideas and basic concept*.
But you have to write something.

And by the way, will you compete in the second ICTC contest?
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KnightDougal
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posted December 31, 2006 06:57 PM


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bixie
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my common sense is tingling!
posted January 01, 2007 10:25 AM

yay, another one!!!!!

seriously, KD, you need to think about different line-up, ethos, buildings, language, (actually pretty much everything). i'll help you with creature line-up

lvl1> orc primitive-> orc savage
lvl2> wardog -> Warhound
lvl3> orc fighter-> orc archer
lvl5> orc mercenary-> orc veteran

lvl4> orc totem-> orc witchdoctor
lvl6> wyvern-> bloodling
lvl7> war tortoise-> fortress tortoise
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KnightDougal
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posted January 05, 2007 10:26 PM

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yay, another one!!!!!

seriously, KD, you need to think about different line-up, ethos, buildings, language, (actually pretty much everything). i'll help you with creature line-up

lvl1> orc primitive-> orc savage
lvl2> wardog -> Warhound
lvl3> orc fighter-> orc archer
lvl5> orc mercenary-> orc veteran

lvl4> orc totem-> orc witchdoctor
lvl6> wyvern-> bloodling
lvl7> war tortoise-> fortress tortoise


Sorry bixie. I already have got the chreatures. But you can make your own settleemnt liek faction with this chreatues.
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bixie
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posted January 05, 2007 10:47 PM

it was a suggestion
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KnightDougal
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posted January 05, 2007 10:58 PM

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I keep the old chreatures, bu not bad idea. you can make your own castle with this units.
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KnightDougal
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posted January 09, 2007 04:50 PM

I make it with smiklar to your unti idea! You get 200000 credits!
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bixie
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posted January 09, 2007 09:33 PM

wow!!!

just wow!!!

you've really turned the tables on all of use, knight dougal.

i'm really impressed!!!!!

just a peice of advice, keep the scrapper ability, as that was a really strong factor about the originaly settlement!
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LummoxLewis
posted January 10, 2007 02:42 PM

Looks a little better now KnightDougal, good work, look's like you have put alot of work into this town
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