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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 10:27 AM |
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thanks, Genielord
*prostrates himself at a carved statue of a genie*
Praise you, manager of the second ICTC and my master, GENIELORD!
Relax... I didn't say you are in the contest again. 
I'm just looking for fair compromise. If we found one, you will be in. 
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bixie
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posted March 04, 2007 10:31 AM |
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ok, i get rid of the stuff that i added, if you'll allow me into the contest.
other restrictions would be your decision, including "bixie's town cannot win first place" or "bixie has a penalty of X amount of points for all his towns"
fine print.
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 10:33 AM |
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I think I've found a reasonable compromise:
he will able to compete with the Stampede (only) but if he wons one of the top three places, he wouldn't get the prizes.
Is that okay with everyone?
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william
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LummoxLewis
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posted March 04, 2007 10:36 AM |
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This is what I suggested through msn:
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kick him out of the stronghold, but whatever mark he gets at the end for his stampede, decrease it by 10% or 15%
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 10:40 AM |
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This is what I suggested through msn:
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kick him out of the stronghold, but whatever mark he gets at the end for his stampede, decrease it by 10% or 15%
That's a bad one... No offence.
But I think that the final marks should be honest and should show what the judges really think about the faction.
And I don't think that he'll like it. I wouldn't. What's the point of competing if you get lower marks then what you deserve?
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william
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posted March 04, 2007 10:42 AM |
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It isnt a bad one at all, in my opinion it is quite honest and fair.
Sure, he will know what he would have gotten, but since he did break a rule, then he gets a lower mark.
It is like at school, if you do a test, but you are caught cheating, then your mark might be lowered by 30%, it is simple as that, and that is a very good way of working things like this out, especially in these kinds of cases.
I hope you will finally understand now 
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bixie
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posted March 04, 2007 10:47 AM |
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ok, so i'm officially competing with the stampede only, and not winning any prizes for it.
sounds fair to me
a request for judges. can you mark the stronghold unofficially as well, just to see what i would have got if i didn't do such a stupid thing!
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Ted
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posted March 04, 2007 10:47 AM |
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well what about bixies Conflux town? he made that town, but he had 2 others so he left it, lets lose this one, and swap it with the Conflux (we should also let him have a couple of days with that town for editing perposes, just to keep it up to date)
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bixie
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posted March 04, 2007 10:50 AM |
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ted, i didn't really want to enter it.
it was really there for fun, which this contest is all about, really.
i made that conflux thread because i couldn't be bothered to fight with KD over which one was better when we shared the other conflux thread in the altar.
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Ted
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posted March 04, 2007 10:55 AM |
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 11:14 AM |
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Hey that's might be a totally different idea, and more suitable for the rules:
Leave where you broke the rules-Stornghole and Stampede.
Compete with your Conflux, with option to get prizes and full mark.
I know that you prefer the Stampede, but I see this option better. The fairest.
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bixie
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posted March 04, 2007 12:38 PM |
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as i have stated before, the stampede and, to a lesser extent, the stronghold were the reasons why i joined the HC in the first place, as i saw the first ICTC and i thought "i would like to enter a town into that." after some thoughts, i came up with the idea of an ogre town, the stampede and decided that i will join to enter it. but the contest was over!
so, i joined, drifted around a bit, and created the orginal thread "meanwhile, in ranaar" that would get a decent story line going on heroes 5. with everyones help, i managed to get the two fledgling towns up to a reasonable standard. i then moved them to here to refine them and get my ideas in order. when GL announced about the second ICTC i thought "ok, i'll enter them in, and see how they do, they may win first place, but probably not." what i really wanted to find out in this contest was, not whether i would win a prize for it, and looking at the tropical and at the bastion and at many others, i haven't got a hope to wine, but to get feed back on my ideas!
and that is essentially what i want, feed back. i think that we all entered this contest for fun, to see how we would do. i did that, and what i want is feed back, just someone saying "what you have done is good, but you could try this..." or "i don't understand where your going on this, can you elaborate" or "i hate this town because its...". no prizes, no QP's, i don't care about them, i just want to hear other people thoughts on the town i made.
maybe i should say that its for people to coment on, and you can take my name off the candidates list, GL. i don't mind, it's just an idea, after all.
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 12:43 PM |
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So the idea of competing with the Stampede only but without getting prize if you get to one of the top three places is okay, right? I think that this will be the arrangement here.
Let's just wait to see GM's opinion.
BTW: nice post, bixie.
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william
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posted March 04, 2007 12:45 PM |
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If you didn't want any prizes or anything, then how come you joined this contest?
Afterall it is a CONTEST, and all contests have prizes.
Just a thought.
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bixie
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posted March 04, 2007 12:58 PM |
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If you didn't want any prizes or anything, then how come you joined this contest?
Afterall it is a CONTEST, and all contests have prizes.
Just a thought.
because, as i have stated up there, i wanted to know, from the wider community, what people thought of my factions.
to me, there are only two points to a contest. one is to give you hope that you might win and the second is to gain feed back on your work. everyone has a priority on those two points. most people value the first, but i tend to value the second as, though a prize is nice, it doesn't help me in the long run. feed back tells you where you need to improve, what ideas are confusing, whats good, whats bad, and so on. it makes people stop for a moment and go "ok, so i have done this in this way, but it wasn't liked, how can i make so that people like it, but it sticks true to the core." alot of people do it, authors test pilot their book to audiences, games have Beta tests to see how people react to it, musician have singles to see whether they are good enough to release an ablum, and so on.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted March 04, 2007 01:14 PM |
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Well I have no problem with both your entries being marked - there's no way I'd not mark them. My personal feeling is that you should still have them in the contest, but I suspect I will be overuled on that one (I'm just too nice...). I'll just have to hope you don't come in the top three or whatever - in which case you will effectively not have been in the contest.
So to summarise, the compromise to be made is that judges should mark the 2 entries, since bixie's hard work should not go to waste - and then we see where he comes. But he cannot win a prize, hence he is effectively `out` of the competition. I don't think there's much point entering the conflux (it won't score that well, since bixie has not put as much effort into it as he would have done if he'd known it would be in the contest) - in fact I think I'd object to marking it, especially if we go ahead with the above compromise.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted March 04, 2007 01:19 PM |
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So the idea of competing with the Stampede only but without getting prize if you get to one of the top three places is okay, right? I think that this will be the arrangement here.
Let's just wait to see GM's opinion.
BTW: nice post, bixie.
So in reply to you GL, my feeling is that, whatever happens, we mark both the proper entries. If you want him to not be able to win a prize, so be it, but I'd prefer that the entries were in the contest and we ignore the edits (even if partly for the sake of having more entries). Because not being able to win a prize is analogous to not being in the contest, there's no point not marking the entries, or worse, only marking one of them. As I said above, a lot of work was put in, even if he did break the rules, so it would be unfair not to recognise it. I don't agree with marking the Conflux.
I hope that is all clear (I say, we keep them in the contest).
Bixie, why did you have to cause such complications by ignoring the rules?
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 01:24 PM |
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Okay.
So all the judges should still mark the stampede.
Meanwhile, only William did.
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Gnoll_Mage
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posted March 04, 2007 01:38 PM |
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And the stronghold too?
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GenieLord
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posted March 04, 2007 01:39 PM |
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And the stronghold too?
No. This is a compromise. He still broke the rules.
But again, he won't be able to win prizes.
A bit harsh, but better then nothing at all, what should have done.
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