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GenieLord
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posted January 05, 2007 07:06 AM
Edited by GenieLord at 14:42, 05 Jan 2007.

Creatures' Design Review - Academy

The Gremlin:

I think it's the strangest creature design of HOMM5.
And it's very strange that a desert creature wears a huge warm coat.
His colours design is horrible Gray skin with bright brown coat in the desert.
the colours are so sniliar that it's almost hard to know where the skin starts and the coat ends or where the desert starts.
With such of crumpled skin, all the Gremplins look like they are 80 years old.

Their coat looks old as they look, with those patches and the blur.
It makes think the Academy is a poor race.
His feet look crushed.
Personal opinion: ugly creature.

The Master Gremlin:

The Master Gremlin's design take care of almost all the probloms that there are in the Gremlin's design.
There's much more colours vareity, the coat looks much better.
There are gold bottoms on the coat that prove the academy isn't a poor race.
There a cover to his feet, what's makes him to looks less wounded.
He looks even a little bit cool with this head cover.

His skin is smoother and makes him looks younger.
The only problom that remains is this heavy coat, that nobody will wear in the desert.
Personal opinion: nice-looking creature.

The Stone Gargoyle:

The best version of the Gargoyle ever, in HOMM.
It finally looks how's it suppose to look: A flying tombstone.
Untill now it looked like a strange flyer creature.
And it's very suprising to see a tombstone starts to fly and to hit other creatures.
That's what it's like in the original stories.

And even it has only one boarding colour, it fits the concept wounderfully.
Personal opinion: great design.

The Obsidian Gargoyle:

Looks cooler then the Stone Gargoyle, what's doing this creature even better.
The extra colours add it what was a little missing.

Personal opinion: great and cool design.

The Iron Golem:

First of all, for a Golem, this is a nice shape.
Even the colour is a little boarding, that's how the Golem is suppose to look, so it's fine.
There's a problom with the name, because it looks like the Golem is made of stone, not iron.
But I guess it will be stupid to call the 2nd level creature "Stone Gargoyle" and the 3rd "Stone Golem".

The movement when it stands is a little stupid and funny. It makes him look like a belly dancer.
The biggest problom is the swords.
Even he looks nice with them, it doesn't fit to a Golam, which suppose to fight be boxing.
His overall look, that looks like a block of stone (not iron) fits well to the magic proof ability.
Personal opinion: avarage design.

The Still Golem:

The major change here is the body's colours.
For a Golem, more then 1-2 colours is too much. It looks costumy like that.
It doesn't look like a still.

But I have to admit it looks a little bit cool and fits to the colours of academy's creatures "collection".
Personal opinion: avarage plus design.

The Mage:

To me, the Mage looks more like an Islamic dealer then a Mage.
Except of that, his stand makes him look like someone who begs.
His shoes are very costumy and spiral, like a shoes of a clown.
The colours are a little ugly.

And again, he looks poor and very unconfidence.
Personal opinion: not good designed.

The Arch Mage:

Again, the upgade take care of almost all the design probloms of the unupgrade.
If looks now like a mage!
He has a self confidence, he doesn't look like he begs.

The colours are very cool, and fits well the academy's creatures collection.
He looks rich and storng.
His eyes shows magic power, the feather on his head makes him look fancy, but his shoes are still what they were.
It's strange that he has a scarf. Again, the wizard forget that they live in the hot desert.
Personal opinion: excellent design.

The Djinn:

I have no idea if the designer of HOMM5 knew what exactly Genie is when they designed with creature.
here, it has no head(!), chest and belly with stitches, and hands that each one of them is twice bigger then the chest and the belly.
The only thing that mention genie about him is the "Tornado" under him.
The lonely feather on his head looks lame.

And it's very strange and even fanny that something holds a sword that is much smaller then his hand.
Personal opinion: strange design.

The Djinn Sultan:

All the Djinn's probloms are still there, but the Djinn Sultan just looks cool!
His skin looks better, there are no stitches on him belly and chest.
His huge hands even fits a little to his body.
He looks fancy and rich with the fur on his hands and head.

The leather on his head looks much better then the old one and makes him look really elegant.
Personal opinion: a little strange but cool.

The Rakshasa Rani:

The concept of standing tiger with swords has executed very well. You can get easily the concept.
The lights that comes out of his legs and hands makes him look cool.
The swords are very impressive
I like the way that the clothes are on him.

He has a bear ears, but it doesn't really matters.
Personal opinion: well-designed.

The Rakashasa Raja:

I can't really see how a tiger upgrades into a lion, but mabey it turns into a little different creature...
It nice, but a little bit strange, that he has another pair of hands.
The swords look worse then the unupgraded creature.
Here, the tail fits better to the body and connects it better.
Golden hands fits better here, too.

I can't see why they put this mane, which doesn't fit to the basic colours at all, and it made them change the clothes, too.
Personal opinion: well-designed.
Colloseus:

The design is pretty good. You can really see that it's a giant and not just a tall man, as it was in some games.
The overall look is nice, but the gray colours are a little bit boarding.

They have great walk and hit, with excellent sounds, that fit's the Collosues.
The creatores avoided to make him to look to much like a bully, and that's nice.
Personal opinion: agerage plus.

The Collosus:

The design is pretty good. You can really see that it's a giant and not just a tall man, as it was in some games.
The overall look is nice, but the gray colours are a little bit boarding.

They have great walk and hit, with excellent sounds, that fit's the Collosis.
The creatores avoided to make him to look to much like a bully, and that's nice.
Personal opinion: agerage plus.

The Titan:

The lightings around the Titan makes him to one of the coolest creatures in the game.
His skin is darker, what fits better to the lightings.
The colours variety is much bigger.
The way he shots is very nice.

The only problom with him is the blonde hair colour.
When his skin was brighter, it was okay. But here it just look like he deyd his hair.
Personal opinion: Excellent and very cool design.

If this review will have good respondes, I'll do a series of reviews.

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emilsn
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posted January 05, 2007 09:19 AM

Hmm... I the gremlin looks a bit boring but well its a week and low lvl creature so yes it can perfectly look poor... and the others looks poor too but maybe thats some kind of rank system in a way. Your a master gremlin now! Here get the great new outfit! Your a archmage here take a scaft !

And you seem to have a problem with them having awful lot of cloths on, i though that in the first too but then: The middle earsten people also fills them self with a lot of cloths and since this is a middle east inspired town it makes good sence for me.

Now we all think that The Rakshasa Rani is a Tiger and why do it upgrades to a BIG lion ? What about The Rakshasa Rani is a female lion and then changes gender when upgraded? Or just a young male lion?

I don't get why those genies are missing heads! All i can say about them!

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posted January 05, 2007 09:31 AM

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Now we all think that The Rakshasa Rani is a Tiger and why do it upgrades to a BIG lion ? What about The Rakshasa Rani is a female lion and then changes gender when upgraded? Or just a young male lion?


that puzzled me too. i think is a lioness upgrading into a lion?????? sounds strange, but 3DO did it with the genies in the tower town, which confused me aswell.

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I don't get why those genies are missing heads! All i can say about them!


they have a missing head because they have a massive faiz over the top. either that, or its just academies new take on them.
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posted January 05, 2007 09:39 AM

Maybe it's some weird take on how Academy director is called Headmaster?

Ok, I'll admit it was bad

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posted January 05, 2007 09:58 AM

Quote:
The Gremlin:
I think it's the strangest creature design of HOMM5.
And it's very strange that a desert creature wears a huge warm coat.
His colours design is horrible Gray skin with bright brown coat in the desert.


I think the Gremlins are the best creature of Academy!
Quote:

The Stone Gargoyle:

The best version of the Gargoyle ever, in HOMM.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo man, how the **** you can say that! This is the stupidest Gargoyle ever!



I hate the stupid Heroes 5 comics style the creatures must be...more...realistic...

Stupid warcraft org:
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Cool Dark Messiah org:
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Stupid Heroes 5 archlich in wedding dress:
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Cool Dark Messiah Lich:
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TheDeath
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posted January 05, 2007 11:47 AM
Edited by TheDeath at 11:49, 05 Jan 2007.

Gremlins are cool (as battle units), they aren't supposed to be rich, who needs money in a battle?

I can't really say something about the gargoyles, but I like them because they are different, even if the animations are a bit... strange

The normal mages look pretty well, I can't see what's wrong with them actually -- that's a good outfit (ok, inspired by Asian/eastern european stuff). My opinion he looks like turkish people (of course some hundred years ago), and it fits it well.. really can't see what's the problem.. again he's a simple mage, not a powerful Archmage

Rakshasa's look cool

Colossi look cool just as titans -- if you vote the "design" for the effects, then of course Titans are cooler -- however I like Colossi just as much because the design is very, very good (just like titans). I don't vote effects (except for special effects, where the design IS the effect), but the design

But that's just me


VokialBG: I agree with you, but I don't see the gargoyles falling into that category, or at least their "statue" position (not animations) (though the Lich really needs a new "dress").

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GenieLord
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posted January 05, 2007 11:52 AM
Edited by GenieLord at 11:57, 05 Jan 2007.

I don't think that how powerful the creature is should change how good he looks.
Emisln said that the Gremlin is weak, so it's not a problom that he looks poor.
I think that any creature should have a good design, and fits to it's suppose to be.
1. The academy suppose to be a ruch race, and the Gremlins and the Mages look poor.
2. Vokial-You don't like the way that the Gargoyles look, right?
But that's the original suppose of the Gargoyles! They look how they suppose to be!
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posted January 05, 2007 11:56 AM

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Gremlins are cool (as battle units), they aren't supposed to be rich, who needs money in a battle?

I can't really say something about the gargoyles, but I like them because they are different, even if the animations are a bit... strange

The normal mages look pretty well, I can't see what's wrong with them actually -- that's a good outfit (ok, inspired by Asian/eastern european stuff). My opinion he looks like turkish people (of course some hundred years ago), and it fits it well.. really can't see what's the problem.. again he's a simple mage, not a powerful Archmage

Rakshasa's look cool

Colossi look cool just as titans -- if you vote the "design" for the effects, then of course Titans are cooler -- however I like Colossi just as much because the design is very, very good (just like titans). I don't vote effects (except for special effects, where the design IS the effect), but the design

But that's just me


VokialBG: I agree with you, but I don't see the gargoyles falling into that category, or at least their "statue" position (not animations) (though the Lich really needs a new "dress").


The whole race suppose to be rich.
The Gremlins look extremely poor.
That's the problom.

The Mages just don't look like Mages.
The Archmages do.
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Geny
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posted January 05, 2007 12:20 PM

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The whole race suppose to be rich.


Wrong. The mages supposed to look rich according to their power level. All the others are just their servants so they can poorer than peasants.
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posted January 05, 2007 12:24 PM

That's what I wanted to say -- that's why most mages don't enter battle, they must talk with their gold.. argh, greed

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posted January 05, 2007 12:31 PM

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Quote:
The whole race suppose to be rich.


Wrong. The mages supposed to look rich according to their power level. All the others are just their servants so they can poorer than peasants.


You are not right, but now wrong.

The mages controll on some creatures of the Academy.
They take care of them to protection, handsome cloths and conditions and basic life needs.
They don't treat them as servents.

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posted January 05, 2007 03:15 PM

The gremlins are Goblins that got filled up with magic, they are a low rank creature, look at where their dwelling is ... I think Academy has a kind of rank system like in India(? can't remember if thats right?) where if your born rich you have great rank, like here if your just a mage, you cannot just show off like that and if your archmage you have reached a greater lvl and recieve a better rank..

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posted January 05, 2007 03:17 PM

Well gremlins are cute and funny to me!

Stone gargoyle: How I hate thee...Blasphemer...

Golems: Belly dancer? Been drinking? Actually the twin sword style looks good, it's just you are used to the traditional punching golems.

Mages: Begs? A clown? Come on, it's not that bad! I don't get these ideas when looking at them. The look more like the relaxed, lucrative masters that are ready to serve with their magical talents.

Well genies are a bit strange...I hate it when people make something ugly to show that they can be original...Still it's fine.

I just love the summoned rakshasas! They give off this awe-inspiring feeling of power.

I did prefer earlier versions of titans theme-wise but these look and feel great. The animations, sounds, contemptuous gaze and sheer size make them stand out!
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posted January 05, 2007 03:20 PM

Quote:
The gremlins are Goblins that got filled up with magic, they are a low rank creature, look at where their dwelling is ... I think Academy has a kind of rank system like in India(? can't remember if thats right?) where if your born rich you have great rank, like here if your just a mage, you cannot just show off like that and if your archmage you have reached a greater lvl and recieve a better rank..


But it's very stupid in the academy, if you think about it well.
The Gremlins seems to be very old.
The Master Gremlins are very young.
And the Master Gremlins have higher rank of the Gremlins?

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posted January 05, 2007 03:50 PM

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The Gremlins seems to be very old.
The Master Gremlins are very young.



Why do you think so?
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posted January 05, 2007 04:06 PM

Master gremlin is older -- he has some freakin' eyeglasses or something like that lol

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posted January 05, 2007 04:09 PM

Quote:
Quote:
The Gremlins seems to be very old.
The Master Gremlins are very young.



Why do you think so?


I read it somewhere.
I tried to remember well but I can't.
Read very well all AoH pages.
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posted January 05, 2007 04:10 PM

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Master gremlin is older -- he has some freakin' eyeglasses or something like that lol

If that's correct the creatores did awful work!
Look at the Gremlin's skin! He looks like he is atleast 80 years old!
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posted January 05, 2007 04:11 PM

Probably that's how goblins should look? I don't know, but probably they are not as close to humans as we believe? just a thought..

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posted January 05, 2007 04:26 PM

I love it that the Gremlins, why have demon blood in their veins, think that even a desert is that cold compared to Hell. Its perfect. And funny. I agree on the lame colors of the unugraded Gremlin though.

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