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GenieLord
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posted January 07, 2007 04:25 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 08:08, 08 Jan 2007.

Creatures' Design Review - Sylvan

The Pixie:

This is a beatiful creature, and full of magic.
The most amazing thing of the pixie, that you can see the plants grow out of her, which is beautiful effect.
It looks like flowers grow from her hair.
With all those branches that surround her, it seemed like she was trapped in a tree.
In the legs it's nice, but in the other places it looks pointless.

And the Pixie is not skinny, what brakes the believe that pretty wonem has to be very thin.
The colour is not amazing, and it gives rotten effect when it becomes darker, like in the Pixie's legs.
There's one strange thing: How does she fly without wings? I guess it's a magical hovering...
Personal opinion: fantastic design.

The Sprite:

The new green colour looks better on this creature, and fits better to the surrounding.
It looks like the sprite shaked herself seince she was a pixie, and here less plants are growing on her.
Those batterflies that fly arround her give it even more pastoral and magical feel.

Her face and her body are thiner, what brings the old believe again, what personaly I don't like.
Personal opinion: fantastic design.

The Blade Dancer:

Except of the body construction of elf, I can't really see any thing special about the design of the Blade Dancer.
It's like the regual elf.
Long and pointy years and different kind of wear are the only thing that differentiate between him and thin human.

The hair fits well to the charactor, here.
The boots and the hand covers are great designed, and really make the Blade Dancer's wear to "Elfy"
Personal opinion: fine design.

The War Dancer:

About this upgrade people say: They almost didn't change nothing! just the pant's colour and added tatooes!
They are totaly wrong. They changed the Dancer's charactor.

From a simple dancer, he finnally became War Dancer which fights, not dances!
It looks much more confidence, decisive, aggressive and more and more like elven warrior then a dancer.
The Tatooes fits him beutifuly, and they are not the normal tatoos, they are unique, in elven style.
The dancer tights which don't fit war at all, (again, fit to dancing) replaced with cool peice of ripped material.
Personal opinion: nice design.

The Hunter:

Even the Hunters don't have a lot of unique thing, their overall design is pretty nice, and anyway, the game needs creature like that.
For their abilities, this design is good.

Their face design is really good and fits them very much.
Their camouflage in the nature is pretty good.
Personal opinion: nice design.

The Master Hunter.

The Master Hunter tried to camouflage himself so much, but in what colour?
He put so many leaves and things that will fit well with the forest and the nature, and it's all dyed in orange and blue?
So where are you trying to camouflage your self?

The Matser Hunter face doesn't fits him at all. And he looks like someone spilled on him pile of leaves. His beutiful hair isn't shown.
The Hunter's face looks calm and peaceful, while the Master Hunter's face looks angry, tired and I seems like he is going to vomit.
The design of the Hunter was better.
Personal opinion: Average plus.

The Druid:

If you ever played in H2 or H1, then you probebly know how did the Druid looked in him first Version: A tall person (that you can't really know if he is a man or woman) that wears long robe.
Here, you can see the (great) body constructure of the Druid and all what comes with it, from walking to body expressios.

His clothes fits the charactor, and he really looks like he suppose to look: Irish megician.
His face is good-designed, too, and the expression is really restrained, I don't know why it is, but it's actually looks good.
This staff is really great, it looks better then the magic create with it then between the Druid's hands. and I like the staff's design, which is very interesting.
Personal opinion: great design.

The Druid Elder:

First of all, the change of colours (from green-brown to browns), fits better to the Druid.
Second, I like the dear-style thing. I don't know the Irish mythology, so I don't know if that's was the style then or even if it fits, but anyway, It looks good idea to me.

The light in the staff is amazing!
The staff itself looks more polished and proffesional, not just a brush that was casted.
The light in the middle of his belt turned to red from blue, what's looks better.
There's only one tiny little problem: The Druid Elder suppose to be older, and it feels younger then the druid.

The Unicorn:

Unicorn is usually just a horse with horn and magical abilities (which you can't see in the design).
He, they really did the Unicorn unique.
The flowers that wrap it, the gentleness, the movemnt (while it stands), etc.
The point is, that when you look at it, you don't fill it's a simple horse.

Personal opinion: great design.

The Silver Unicorn:

In the first time I saw the Silver unicorn, I just said "Wow!".
The delicate blue-silver with the new golden collar looks amazing.
And it's very innorvative, nobody had never did it before.

The Silver Unicorn looks much more impressive then the Unicorn.
And the thing that does it is not aggression, it's gentleness.
Here's the prove that a thing can be impressive by only being gentle.
Personal opinion: wonerful design.

The Treant:

The original Treant in alive tree, that camouflage himself in the forest as a tree.
I'm sorry, but this Treat does not look like a normal tree.
A normal tree starts with one trunk and then split to different branches.
This Treant has few trunks, that come into one that hanged between them and from there split to different branches.

The problem is that to do real Treant that camouflage as a normal tree is not innorvative any more.
I has done many times before.
So I prefer to be original then good, but I think they could do it here, becuase the difference would be the 3D.
Any way, the Treat is kind of cool. It's nice to look at him.
Personal opinion: nice minus.

The Ancient Treant:

There are only three different things here:
1. The leaves colour - Looks a little bit better, not much.
2. He has a beard - A little silly but nice.
3. Red eyes - If the eyes were like in the mini picture, it was okay. But here, all the eye is red (as you can see in the big picture), and it pretty ugly and doesn't fit him. It makes it look more like a dark creature.

Personal opinion: nice minus.

The Green Dragon:

The thing that does the Green Dragon more special and qunique is the green scales.
It fits him beatuifuly, and it's pretty innorvative and creative thing that the creators did. Personaly, I like it.
His wings are very pretty, fit his body structure very much.

The tail is great, too, and long enough.
The Green Dragon needs eyes! (atleast here there's head)
There's a cover from the above of his head that ends in the tail is weird but pretty.
Personal opinion: great design.

The Emerald Dragon.

First of all, there's the simple fact that this colour is not a emerald, it's a turquoise.
Those spikes from his head to his tail are great-looking (but they replace the weird-but-pretty cover).
The Green Dragon's wings look better.

His head in the mini-picture looks really bad. Like someone shrinked it and distorted it, but it's like that in the actual dragon.
The Green Dargon's scales look much better then the Emerald dragon's, but there the colour was softy, so it was hard to notice. Here you can easiy see them, which is excellent.
The opinions about the Emerald Dragons are reversed, but in the end every body agrees that the design is great.
Personal opinion: great design.
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baklava
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posted January 07, 2007 06:04 PM

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I don't know the Irish mythology, so I don't know if that's was the style then or even if it fits, but anyway, I look good idea to me.

The druids stand for preservation of nature and its beings. They fight for the woods and animals and stuff like that.
THEN WHY DID THEY SLAUGHTER A DEER JUST TO MAKE A FASHIONABLE DETAIL OUT OF ITS SKIN?

Think about it

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GenieLord
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posted January 07, 2007 06:26 PM

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Quote:
I don't know the Irish mythology, so I don't know if that's was the style then or even if it fits, but anyway, I look good idea to me.

The druids stand for preservation of nature and its beings. They fight for the woods and animals and stuff like that.
THEN WHY DID THEY SLAUGHTER A DEER JUST TO MAKE A FASHIONABLE DETAIL OUT OF ITS SKIN?

Think about it


There's a very simple explanation.
If you kill an animals for eating, you use the rest of it's body parts for different things.
They just used the head for fashion.
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posted January 07, 2007 07:25 PM



this is the worst design and idea i have ever seen in heroes! they coudnt make white tigers or something else? and the war dancer is looool bad and dangerous but he looks like gay

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posted January 07, 2007 07:25 PM

i always had a feeling that you were a secret tree hugger, genielord.

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I don't know the Irish mythology, so I don't know if that's was the style then or even if it fits, but anyway, I look good idea to me.


i'm irish, and i can confirm that it what they used to do that. they wrapped themselves in the skin of the animals to help share the animals knowledge. they also cooked and chewed animals to do the same thing.

Quote:
Quote:

The druids stand for preservation of nature and its beings. They fight for the woods and animals and stuff like that.
THEN WHY DID THEY SLAUGHTER A DEER JUST TO MAKE A FASHIONABLE DETAIL OUT OF ITS SKIN?

Think about it


There's a very simple explanation.
If you kill an animals for eating, you use the rest of it's body parts for different things.
They just used the head for fashion.


your right, they never wasted the hide. they always used to make interesting clothes out of it. thats probably one of the reasons that the romans tryed to kill them off, because the celts dressed better!
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GenieLord
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posted January 07, 2007 07:50 PM

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i always had a feeling that you were a secret tree hugger, genielord.

Quote:
I don't know the Irish mythology, so I don't know if that's was the style then or even if it fits, but anyway, I look good idea to me.


i'm irish, and i can confirm that it what they used to do that. they wrapped themselves in the skin of the animals to help share the animals knowledge. they also cooked and chewed animals to do the same thing.

Quote:
Quote:

The druids stand for preservation of nature and its beings. They fight for the woods and animals and stuff like that.
THEN WHY DID THEY SLAUGHTER A DEER JUST TO MAKE A FASHIONABLE DETAIL OUT OF ITS SKIN?

Think about it


There's a very simple explanation.
If you kill an animals for eating, you use the rest of it's body parts for different things.
They just used the head for fashion.


your right, they never wasted the hide. they always used to make interesting clothes out of it. thats probably one of the reasons that the romans tryed to kill them off, because the celts dressed better!


Lol. But I won't be very suprised if it's a true.

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this is the worst design and idea i have ever seen in heroes! they coudnt make white tigers or something else? and the war dancer is looool bad and dangerous but he looks like gay


Just imagine Sylvan as you said...
It has only two actuall elves (not different creatures like Unicorns and Dragons): Hunter and Druid.
Thw whole point about having three elves in the army is simple:
The group all the fighting elves to:
Melee attack (Blade/War Dancer)
Range attack (Hunter/Master Hunter)
And Magical attack (Druid/Druid Elder)

If it was like you said it, the elves had only range and magical attack.
Now you understand why they need the Blade/War Dancer.
And about the design, if a matter of taste.
Compare to the Blade Dancer, the War Dancer has nice look and something unique, except being elf.
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posted January 07, 2007 07:52 PM

somebody should give Genielord one of those red stars just to prevent him from making any more of these loong and boring threads.

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GenieLord
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posted January 07, 2007 07:58 PM

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somebody should give Genielord one of those red stars just to prevent him from making any more of these loong and boring threads.


You know what? I would like to get quality point for that.
If it's boarding for you, you don't have to reply it and insulting other people that worked hard on things like that.
So I'll say it nicely thistime: If you have something like that to say, don't say it where the creator can read it.
Except of the quality point thing, that's okay.

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posted January 07, 2007 08:47 PM

Are War dancers die of cold when they go fight Dwarves on the snowy mountains and stuff???

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posted January 07, 2007 08:58 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 20:59, 07 Jan 2007.

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You know what? I would like to get quality point for that.
If it's boarding for you, you don't have to reply it and insulting other people that worked hard on things like that.
So I'll say it nicely thistime: If you have something like that to say, don't say it where the creator can read it.
Except of the quality point thing, that's okay.


So far, nobody has received a QP on this board afaik, even though some users written almost ESSEYS which also were quite useful/interesting. Sorry to disappoint you, but admins ignore the H5 main board lol ;p

Anyway, that's a lot of work you did. Good job.

If you want QPs, maybe they are willing to give them on offtopic, dunno.

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GenieLord
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posted January 07, 2007 09:05 PM

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Are War dancers die of cold when they go fight Dwarves on the snowy mountains and stuff???


Lol.
Yes there so many almost naked creatures is HOMM that I can't understand what do they do when it's cold:
Shadow Witch
Blood Fury
Imp
Horned Demon
Hell Hound
Succubus (totaly naked!)

etc.

In H3 even the Tower's hero is half nakes and it in the ice!
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posted January 07, 2007 09:07 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 08:11, 08 Jan 2007.

Quote:
Quote:

You know what? I would like to get quality point for that.
If it's boarding for you, you don't have to reply it and insulting other people that worked hard on things like that.
So I'll say it nicely thistime: If you have something like that to say, don't say it where the creator can read it.
Except of the quality point thing, that's okay.


So far, nobody has received a QP on this board afaik, even though some users written almost ESSEYS which also were quite useful/interesting. Sorry to disappoint you, but admins ignore the H5 main board lol ;p

Anyway, that's a lot of work you did. Good job.

If you want QPs, maybe they are willing to give them on offtopic, dunno.


Listen, I didn't do it for QP.
And if it boarding for you, it's okay.
I'll stop doing these threads any way.

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posted January 07, 2007 09:12 PM

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So far, nobody has received a QP on this board afaik, even though some users written almost ESSEYS which also were quite useful/interesting. Sorry to disappoint you, but admins ignore the H5 main board lol ;p



Not true. I have seen some people earn red stars here but it's rare. As it should. Iirc those who get red stars have made a post better than 98% of the others so one must really try.
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posted January 07, 2007 09:18 PM

Off-topic: where did i get the gold star?    
Oooooo............

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posted January 07, 2007 09:18 PM

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Listen, I didn't do it for offtopic.
And if it boarding for you, it's okay.
I'll stop doing these threads any way.


You didn;t understand me. I like these threads.

I meant that if you want to get quality points, it's not likely that you will get them here..

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baklava
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posted January 07, 2007 09:27 PM

What's with the quality-point mania? People are suddenly obsessed with red stars... Like (God-forbid) communists...

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Doomforge
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posted January 07, 2007 09:28 PM

Dunno. I really don't care if I have any.

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posted January 07, 2007 09:46 PM

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Off-topic: where did i get the gold star?    
Oooooo............


Yellow shows your post count You'll get some no matter what!
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posted January 08, 2007 12:17 AM

Sylvan is my favourite town (visually) I love their town, units, heroes.  Elves always look awesome!

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posted January 08, 2007 03:50 AM

these are really good threads you are doing Genie lord, and very helpful to the "WOG of HV" that is being worked on.  Keep it up!

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