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GenieLord
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posted January 17, 2007 03:39 PM

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Nightmare's fear attack never fails to help me, whether in creeping or clearing of Dragon Utopia or even siege invasion.

I could still clearly remember the time when the AI sent a big batch of emerald dragons out of the castle walls only to be sent back immediately by nightmares; in the end, the emerald dragons hardly did anything (gathered initiative points lost).

Therefore, I think fear attack is one of the best...



It makes the enemy go a little bit back without doing a retaliation.
It's nice but I don't think it's the best.

And I like very very much the Succubus Mistress's abilities: Chain Shot and Ranged Retaliation.
Chain Shot-The shot hit more then one undemoniac creature. It's great hitting few creatures in one shot (even the damage is getting lower and lower) but it might be a problem if you have undemoniac creature in your army, becuase it might hurt it, too.
Ranged Retaliation-You can rataliate when the enemy shots on you! It's definitely one of the best abilities.
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VokialBG
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posted January 17, 2007 06:00 PM

My Top 20 :


1. Death Knight Deadly Strike
2. Vampire Life Drain
3. ArchLich Death Cloud
4. Spectre Incorporeal
5. Marksman Precise Shot
6. Succubus Mistress Chain Shot
7. Imperial Griffin Battle Dive
8. Ancient Treant Entangling Roots
9. Steel Golem Unlimited Retaliation
10. Succubus Mistress Ranged Retaliation
11. Deep Hydra Regeneration
12. Cerberus Three-headed Attack
13. Pit Lord Vorpal Sword
14. Wraith Harm Touch
15. Paladin Jousting
16. Blood Fury Strike and Return
17. Grim Raider Lizard Bite
18. Minotaur Guard Double Attack
19. Assassin Poisonous Attack
20. Master Gremlin Repair
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emilsn
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posted January 18, 2007 08:20 PM

you know that Succubus Mistress are there twice? Either thats a mistake or you really like it But they are some suducing little fellows And well yes great fellows.. and if you get the hero who has the speciel for them , they can become VERY mean... because i don't think they do that much dmg , but with her and some good skills they become Godlike.... Muhaha

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Ted
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posted January 18, 2007 08:22 PM

apart from the succubus mistress thing, thats a really good list, but whats does jousting do?
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Doomforge
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posted January 19, 2007 09:40 AM

+5% damage for every walked tile

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GenieLord
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posted January 19, 2007 12:48 PM

Harm Touch isn't that good. Just kills 1 creature and takes from you a turn. Might be useful against summoned Pheonix.
Some people think that Vorpal Sword is the same. Actually, it's much stronger. It does the regular damage, while it kills atleast 1 creature. So you do the turn and get bonus.
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Doomforge
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posted January 19, 2007 02:36 PM

no, vorpal sword is way better - you kill exactly one creature more than you should. It boosts pitlords damage per week quite a bit if you attack level6-7 creatures mainly.

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VokialBG
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posted January 19, 2007 03:17 PM

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no, vorpal sword is way better - you kill exactly one creature more than you should. It boosts pitlords damage per week quite a bit if you attack level6-7 creatures mainly.


correctly.

But:

Harm Touch --->>> no relitation, you can kill 2 - are more Lv.7 creatures with 1

Vorpal Sword --->>> Relitation, you can kill only 1 Lv. 7 creature with 1 Pit Lord.
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PhoenixReborn
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posted January 19, 2007 03:36 PM

Vokial...you should pick one!  The original question is what do you think is the best ability and you came back with every ability in the game!

I'd like the succubi more if the chain shot did full damage on every branch.

My favorite ability is stormstrike.  The battlefield is small so you are bound to hit multiple enemy creatures at some point in the combat.

Not counting the expansion I'd go with vampire life drain.
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GenieLord
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posted January 19, 2007 06:16 PM

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Vokial...you should pick one!  The original question is what do you think is the best ability and you came back with every ability in the game!

I'd like the succubi more if the chain shot did full damage on every branch.

My favorite ability is stormstrike.  The battlefield is small so you are bound to hit multiple enemy creatures at some point in the combat.

Not counting the expansion I'd go with vampire life drain.


I thought you like the Pheonix's Reborn the best, like me.
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Dungeonian
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posted January 19, 2007 06:50 PM

I find Grim Raider's ignore defence when they run 5+ squares ability most powerful through all creatures of all factions . They're hell effective against high tier creatures .
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alcibiades
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posted January 19, 2007 07:24 PM

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My Top 20 :


1. Death Knight Deadly Strike
2. Vampire Life Drain A nice ability, but not that great when ballanced by low damage as Vampires have. No longer a life-saver.
3. ArchLich Death Cloud This ability is not that usefull, because surrounding units receive only half (?) damage.
4. Spectre Incorporeal
5. Marksman Precise Shot
6. Succubus Mistress Chain Shot
7. Imperial Griffin Battle Dive One of the best abilities! Unit cannot be targeted once activated before excecuted, can attack even shielded units anywhere on battlefield, and does double damage.
8. Ancient Treant Entangling Roots
9. Steel Golem Unlimited Retaliation
10. Succubus Mistress Ranged Retaliation Great ability which will have huge impact of the Tactical approach to the combat.
11. Deep Hydra Regeneration
12. Cerberus Three-headed Attack
13. Pit Lord Vorpal Sword Annoying, but not that great in the long run.
14. Wraith Harm Touch Same.
15. Paladin Jousting Excellent damage booster!
16. Blood Fury Strike and Return Extremely useful! Essentially double movement + no retaliation.
17. Grim Raider Lizard Bite
18. Minotaur Guard Double Attack How can you rate this ability at #18? Should be in top 5.
19. Assassin Poisonous Attack
20. Master Gremlin Repair


And I don't even see this abilities in your Top 20:

- Phoenix - Rebirth
- Archangel - Resurrect Allies
- Familiar - Mana Steal
- Phoenix and Magma Dragon - Fireshield and Magmashield
- Rakshasa - No Retaliation

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VokialBG
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posted January 19, 2007 07:45 PM

Maybe you have your Top 20, this is my Top 20, so if you have your Top 20 do not defame, my Top 20! Post your Top 20 here
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PhoenixReborn
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posted January 19, 2007 07:55 PM

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I thought you like the Pheonix's Reborn the best, like me.


Ha Ha. Good point.

Unfortunately in this game we don't get to use the phoenix much.  Instead it becomes a pain when you fight neutral phoenixes.

Anyone like the Titan call lightning?
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alcibiades
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posted January 19, 2007 07:59 PM

True - each to his own. I was just surprised. But I guess you can read my favorites from my comment.
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PhoenixReborn
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posted January 19, 2007 08:01 PM

Alcibiades- the minotaurs rarely get to use their great double-hit.  That's why I wouldn't rank it so highly.  They either don't get into the battle or if they do they get killed quickly.

Vokial-what if you had to pick just one?  No (nice emoticon)
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alcibiades
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posted January 19, 2007 09:02 PM

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Alcibiades- the minotaurs rarely get to use their great double-hit.  That's why I wouldn't rank it so highly.  They either don't get into the battle or if they do they get killed quickly.


True - that actually raises a very important question: Are we discussing the ability in relation to the creature that actually has it in the current game, or more like in general? For instance, the Double Attack ability obviously is extremely powerfull (say, imagine we put it on the Black Dragon) but on the Minotaurs is not that usefull, because they are slow and somewhat weak. Same with Life Drain, that can be a really powerfull ability, depending on how you ballance the creature that has it (Arch Angel with Life Drain - oh, we already have that one ...).

Therefore, in order to truely evaluate the Abilities, we need to know whether we are talking the particular ability in general, or in the way the are distributed in the game currently.
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MightyGorgon
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posted January 19, 2007 09:47 PM

I love the Archangels resurrection.  Lets say 25 champions died.  Oops, there all back now!  Id say the Horned overseer has the most annoying with explosion.  I always forget they have that snow, and then boom!  Also Sucubus Mistress with ranged retaliation and chain shot.

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GenieLord
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posted January 20, 2007 12:51 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 12:51, 20 Jan 2007.

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I love the Archangels resurrection.  Lets say 25 champions died.  Oops, there all back now!  Id say the Horned overseer has the most annoying with explosion.  I always forget they have that snow, and then boom!  Also Sucubus Mistress with ranged retaliation and chain shot.


Yes, I like it, too.
There are any people that prefer the Angel with Life Drain then the Angel with Resurrection?
I think that their both are really strong, but I prefer him with the resurrection, and most of the people, I guess.
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Doomforge
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posted January 20, 2007 01:34 PM

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Yes, I like it, too.
There are any people that prefer the Angel with Life Drain then the Angel with Resurrection?
I think that their both are really strong, but I prefer him with the resurrection, and most of the people, I guess.


Wrong Most of players prefer life drain.

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