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dfortae
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posted February 14, 2007 11:18 PM |
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Even if arcane armor is cleansed that's still a stalemate move...plus cleansing doesn't always work. I forget, can the warlock get counterspell? And how does counterspell work now, against creatures? heroes?
Well casting Arcane Armor uses a LOT more mana than Cleansing... I would say it would be foolish to cast if the enemy has Cleansing.
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Elvin
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posted February 14, 2007 11:23 PM |
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Not all heroes take light magic easily or have access to cleansing. You can pretty much guess if chances are on your side, judging by who you face. And to tell you the truth I'd probably cast a mass spell rather than cleansing unless the shielded unit is too much of a threat.
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TheDeath
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posted February 15, 2007 09:58 AM |
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@all: I was sarcastic about the Summon Elementals spell 
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Elvin
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posted February 15, 2007 12:42 PM |
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Really?  I'll try to get over it then...
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sdfx
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posted February 15, 2007 01:28 PM |
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Edited by sdfx at 13:30, 15 Feb 2007.
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Summon Elementals may suck but AI sucks against them even more. As long as AI can kill at least 2(or has a CHANCE to kill 2?) elementals it will continue targeting them instead of single fodders.
My guess is that AI is going for most kills/damage - that's why it always start killing low tier creatures(low def and hp) with might attacks and high tier creatures(huge defense bypassed) with magic attacks. It also has a priority to kill and even follow shooters.
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meff
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posted January 23, 2008 09:21 AM |
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well i think it's better to blast AI out before he get turn 
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watcher83
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posted January 23, 2008 10:18 AM |
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against the AI phantom forces on your furies is a blast.
(although in a serious game I never pick summoning for a warlock)
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Moonlith
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posted January 23, 2008 12:30 PM |
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Edited by Moonlith at 13:14, 23 Jan 2008.
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I don't think summon Elementals is good AT ALL. In fact, it plain sucks, simply because it's so random. If you end up getting earth elementals it's a wasted spell.
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Elvin
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posted January 23, 2008 12:41 PM |
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That said it would be fun to try with invisibility. Still it's a waste, destructive can do a better job in creeping.
Anyway the thread has been obsolete for some time, since TotE summoning is viable and even required against stronghold. The reason is that you can get pretty decent mana through perks as the recent addition of graduate, arcane excellence or easier erratic mana. Now add the old skills as secrets, intelligence and the bonus from dungeon towns and you can end up with lots of mana. Still, when I have the levels to spare I would rather get warlock's luck rather than summoning school but I don't deny its effectiveness atm. Hive or blade barrier can save time for you to cast more destructive spells and an extra boosted phoenix is always fun to summon.
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Jabarkas
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posted January 23, 2008 01:16 PM |
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Anyway the thread has been obsolete for some time, since TotE summoning is viable and even required against stronghold.
Hmm?... thought some kind of combined Destruction/Dark-magic path was the best path for Dungeon vs. Stronghold. Must have missed the importance of some spell there... or... totally overestimated the possibility for a Warlock to get good Dark Magic spells.
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Elvin
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posted January 23, 2008 01:34 PM |
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No dark still is the best path but destruction on the other hand will not help if he has shatter destructive. Summoning is what you know you'll get for sure while waiting for dark 
(If we brainwash stronghold players enough they may stop taking shatter destructive and then we'll blast them to pieces  )
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Doomforge
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posted January 23, 2008 03:23 PM |
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The answer to everything is "play academy" so don't take summoning for a warlock.. play academy instead.
While the thread is obviously old and the old responses outdated, the question is still there. Summoning is a decent way to enhance the chances against stronghold. Fun if paired with dark (get a dark specialist - lethos perhaps). The enemy goes for shatter destructive, but gets his butt handed to him via mass slow + mass suffering + phoenix. I'm pretty certain nobody takes shatter dark against dungeon ;o And with the spells being available every game through arcane intuition and matriarchs.. why not? ~~
If you can't just rush him to death within second week, that is.
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