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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Gargoyle can be resurrect
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted February 26, 2007 07:09 PM

Oh, I was not talking about the topic. I was discussing the difference between Golems and Gargoyles, and why one was mechanic and the other not.
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baklava
baklava


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posted February 26, 2007 07:17 PM

Oh. Well neither are supposed to be mechanical. Golems are as animated as gargoyles. Dragon Golems from Heroes IV were mechanical, for example. These guys are just building material that came to life through magic. So if you ask me, neither is mechanical. I don't know why golems are classified as such, though
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phinex
phinex


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for sylvan
posted February 27, 2007 03:06 AM
Edited by phinex at 09:40, 27 Feb 2007.

Thanks for all the replys.I'm very glad to see the heated discussion.
And somebody give the right answer.Yes,the answer is Guardian Angel.
This is the full picture.And the patch is 1.4/2.1
Actually,guardian angel cann't resurrect all creatures,even golem and undead,but it can resurrect some creatures died without body(for example,air element)
If your only have air elements in your army,when guardian angel occur,the game will mistake,I think it is a bug.

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Shauku83
Shauku83


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posted February 27, 2007 03:29 AM

This was a good one. I didn't have a clue before someone mentioned it here... very nice

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted February 27, 2007 07:21 AM

What is up with your army? ... The best thing you have was Gargs? And the enemy had 20 Dragons sorry to get out of topic, but wauw where are your 200 or more marksmen, you got duegal...

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Moonlith
Moonlith


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posted February 27, 2007 09:16 AM

I think that screenshot was on a custom made map with a custom army, made just for the screenshot. Since, where do you see Warlocks riding with only 30 Spectral Dragons?
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sfidanza
sfidanza


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Supreme Hero
posted February 27, 2007 12:08 PM

Thanks for the note.

After some testing, it appears that golems, gargoyles and fire/magma dragons are resurrected by Guardian Angel (while not by the Resurrection spell itself). Only the 4 Elementals are never resurrected (the Guardian Angel appears but vanishes without doing anything).

I also noticed that when the resurrected stack is the last one killed, it keeps its ATB value, and retaliates after being resurrected if any retaliation was due (like with the Phoenix's Rebirth ability).

These details will be in the next update of the H5 Manual.

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phinex
phinex


Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
posted March 01, 2007 04:12 AM
Edited by phinex at 04:16, 01 Mar 2007.

Quote:
Thanks for the note.

After some testing, it appears that golems, gargoyles and fire/magma dragons are resurrected by Guardian Angel (while not by the Resurrection spell itself). Only the 4 Elementals are never resurrected (the Guardian Angel appears but vanishes without doing anything).

I also noticed that when the resurrected stack is the last one killed, it keeps its ATB value, and retaliates after being resurrected if any retaliation was due (like with the Phoenix's Rebirth ability).

These details will be in the next update of the H5 Manual.

So surprised that the author of the H5 Manual will see my topic.
I found some mistakes in the Manual.
1¡¢Paragon Knight/Banshee is increase/lower Initiative 10% instead of 20%
2¡¢Gate Keeper
I found the bonus is not multiplicative but plus.
For example, at level 15 with ultimate Gating (45%) and Gate Master (*1.2), gated troops are 45%+20%+15%=80% of the calling troops.
I test it on the duel,use Nymus.With Swarming Gate, it can call 125% .

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phinex
phinex


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for sylvan
posted March 01, 2007 04:22 AM

Quote:
What is up with your army? ... The best thing you have was Gargs? And the enemy had 20 Dragons sorry to get out of topic, but wauw where are your 200 or more marksmen, you got duegal...

Just like Moonlith say,I found it in the games.
But for a screenshot,I must made a map,don't worry.

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted March 01, 2007 02:00 PM

Quote:
So surprised that the author of the H5 Manual will see my topic.
I found some mistakes in the Manual.
1¡¢Paragon Knight/Banshee is increase/lower Initiative 10% instead of 20%
2¡¢Gate Keeper
I found the bonus is not multiplicative but plus.
For example, at level 15 with ultimate Gating (45%) and Gate Master (*1.2), gated troops are 45%+20%+15%=80% of the calling troops.
I test it on the duel,use Nymus.With Swarming Gate, it can call 125%.


Among others, those two points (and Guardian Angel), are updated in the latest 2.1a version, released yesterday.
If you notice other points, keep them coming.

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