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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: The most lucky terrain.One beat endless!
Thread: The most lucky terrain.One beat endless!
phinex
phinex


Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
posted March 05, 2007 05:39 AM

The most lucky terrain.One beat endless!

The terrain in the battlefield are various,and they will help or disturb you.Make good use of the terrain that you can won the battle more easily.
I have seen many terrain,but no one can catch this one.With this,you can easily beat endless melee creatures,the only disadvantage is waste a long time.
Have you ever see it?Let's share it.

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kcwong
kcwong


Hired Hero
posted March 05, 2007 06:07 AM

Random number god strikes again...

Though while funny, it is not useful at all...

- You must have the teleport spell
- You have no idea the terrain will be like that before battle starts, so you will probably have other units out there taking hits
- You really shouldn't fight a battle that you need to resort to this sneaky tactics to win...

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emilsn
emilsn


Legendary Hero
posted March 05, 2007 07:37 AM

I get why its bad, but well funny So sad to be those dragons.. "We cannot reach him, awww and we are all out of things to smash, aww"

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 05, 2007 07:55 AM

Quote:

- You really shouldn't fight a battle that you need to resort to this sneaky tactics to win...


You are serious aren't you? In a battle you utilize any trick available to win. What's wrong, would you feel guity afterwards? The only problem is that this usually doesn't work and cannot be relied upon. I bet this screenshot is from a reloaded battle when phinex saw the terrain.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 05, 2007 08:28 AM

Using terrain to your advantage is cheating? Well tell that to those great leaders of the past

If a combat field like that has been created, good for you. Another reason for warlocks' dominance: They will never get blocked ~~

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ZombieLord
ZombieLord


Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 05, 2007 09:33 AM

I had a battlefield once even MORE funny. Can't draw it perfectly but I'll try:

-------++---
-------++---
------------
------------
------++----
-------++---
-------++---
-----++-----
---+-++-----
----C-------

(it is seen from the combat phase -- the heroes are in the right and left)

or something like this
would you imagine what would happen to the Large Creatures here?

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kcwong
kcwong


Hired Hero
posted March 05, 2007 11:15 AM

Quote:
In a battle you utilize any trick available to win. What's wrong, would you feel guilty afterwards? The only problem is that this usually doesn't work and cannot be relied upon. I bet this screenshot is from a reloaded battle when phinex saw the terrain.


First, let me state clearly that I find the situation funny too -- I said "Random number god strikes again " in my first reply. And yes, this cannot be replied upon, I've said so in my first reply as well.

You ask me will I feel guilty afterwards... yes, I will! Flying creatures can't get to an enemy unit because of a few mushroom patches... that situation surely is not fair and not logical, and should be eliminated by the battle map generator.

Fortunately it's rare, and we do have Imperial Griffins as a counter...

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 05, 2007 11:38 AM

Yes it probably should. Where I'd feel guilty is exploiting a bug/glitch, this is less of a moral crime!
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Shauku83
Shauku83


Promising
Famous Hero
posted March 05, 2007 12:22 PM

Basically a single Sprite could defeat hundreds of Large (non-Titan) creatures, it is worse than most bugs. This wouldn't be a problem if the Hero attack wasn't endless...

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TheDeath
TheDeath


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
with serious business
posted March 05, 2007 12:32 PM

This game just sucks horribly in flaws and abuses and tricks.. It's like that. I know every game has them, but Heroes takes it to a new level...

And every time someone starts and tries to suggest things that could make it better, most (being used to take spectrals like that) will disagree and bash him because it's funny to take them and rush, right? not in my opinion though

Just a fact: try to see the game from a different perspective, a neutral position (i.e not "wanting" to win and doing everything for it). And yes I feel guilty when I abuse the game

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Card_Ximinez
Card_Ximinez


Famous Hero
no
posted March 05, 2007 12:44 PM

Quote:
Basically a single Sprite could defeat hundreds of Large (non-Titan) creatures, it is worse than most bugs. This wouldn't be a problem if the Hero attack wasn't endless...


Or Warlord. Warlords can use the same lightning thingie that Titans can.
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wtf this still exists

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted March 05, 2007 12:46 PM

Not exactly and not more than once.
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Card_Ximinez
Card_Ximinez


Famous Hero
no
posted March 05, 2007 12:49 PM
Edited by Card_Ximinez at 12:50, 05 Mar 2007.

Quote:
Basically a single Sprite could defeat hundreds of Large (non-Titan) creatures, it is worse than most bugs. This wouldn't be a problem if the Hero attack wasn't endless...


But still, I suppose that even one Storm Bolt from hundreds of Warlords would kill a single sprite.
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Shauku83
Shauku83


Promising
Famous Hero
posted March 05, 2007 01:01 PM

Well I thought Titan would work as an Archetype of a shooter.

Replace word non-Titan with non-shooter/caster, to understand the point.

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Darkeye
Darkeye


Promising
Famous Hero
of the Deep
posted March 05, 2007 06:51 PM

That terrain was good but not great. Unless you have teleport, you'll have to run twice with the hunters before arriving the destination, and by then, if you are lucky enough to evoid any spectrals, your ammo cart had been smashed to pieces. If your shots and spells then are not enough to take them out it is lot's of wasted time. But since this is from the campaign, the Spectrals are of course favourite enemy ...

So did you teleport them or not?

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phinex
phinex


Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
posted March 06, 2007 05:52 AM
Edited by phinex at 05:54, 06 Mar 2007.

I think everyone should know it cann't rely on.
So,my purpose is just for fun,not to make a discuss.

As elvin said,I reload when I see the terrain.

And I didn't use teleport,instead,I sent some sprite to protect the hunter.
BTW,if I didn't save time ,I will only send sprite,then I can beat the dragons without lost

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