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RedSoxFan3
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posted May 01, 2008 03:05 PM

I can see myself being a bit more confrontational if I had been in a situation like that. If I'm never gonna spend time with a ***** like that again, then I might as well give her an earfull. I like to give them grief. Most of the time I don't think they expect it until after the guy has already been severely ****ed over.

One girl on campus tried to cut a deal with me to share an apartment, but she would pay less rent, because she went home every weekend. And I kept saying we'll talk about it. So she finally sets up an appointment for me and my bud to meet her at the apartment. And she gives me a call and says she has food poisoning and can't make it. She sounded perfectly fine lol. But I just went to the apartment anyway. So I get there and the landlord was with 4 dudes signing the lease. He says to me and my bud, I told her I couldn't meet her today. Luckily I only wasted about 20 minutes driving over there and back, so I wasn't too ticked off. I just thought it was kinda funny.

So I told her. Ya know if you weren't trying to cut sketchy deals with the rent, I would have met with you sooner and we'd have got the apartment.

And then she responded saying I was an idiot and she was doing me a favor the whole time. And then she blocked me on facebook lol.

So I sent her an email. And well I won't go into any exact details to what I said, but she responded making fun of my stuttering. This girl is ****ed up in the head. No doubt about it. I responded back one more time really digging into her and I got an email message back in all caps. It was hilarious. For about 2 years, I laughed whenever I saw her on campus.
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violent_flower
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posted May 01, 2008 04:11 PM

Women understand fully what they do and why they do it. My distaste, as far as hanging out with them, is just the constant drama. There is always some huge issue in their life that is causing a twinge in their nasal passages. Having male friends has just always worked out for me. Putting the boundaries up right away and letting them know that hey I love to shoot, ride my motorcycle, work on cars, but this is not a free pass.

Now I have met some of my boyfriends through that type of activity but mostly I just really enjoy the fact that men just kind of know who they are and in thirty years you can count on them still having the same heart. Assuming some woman has not come along and spit on it. This is not to say that men don’t have their own selfish manipulative side. They are plenty capable of being selfish and leading you to believe they are a certain way when they are not. However I find it relatively easy to read through unless you’re just stupid in love then nothing is clear.

In general women just have this hold and then at a young age they start to find out what it means to have that kind of power. I don’t think it matters it has to be designed that way. After all men have more power in the board room and women have it between their legs.  

 

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posted May 02, 2008 11:07 AM

I want to point out what is being adressed here is not a trait unique to women, although it is a bit different.

Where some women use sex to get other kinds of power, some men use sweet promises and manipulation to get sex...

Which is worse?


In that dumb frat boy example: I really can't feel sorry for men that think with their dicks.


On a somewhat different topic, I do wonder a lot what it is with women and drama I really don't get it... Are they somehow inable to simply express their feelings, and instead find it necessary to either hide it and let it build up, or show it by acting snowy and dramatic? It defies any kind of logic. Or is that just me being unable to understand why people lie and search for excuses?


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Azagal
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posted May 02, 2008 12:16 PM

@Valeriy
Wow... sounds like you've been pretty unlucky in the past. But you'll manage Noting the mage of the land can't do.

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It defies any kind of logic.

YES!. But that's what makes it so funny to listen to them. Ahhh the drama~~ Of course you have to have a straight face and take everything she says very serious!! xD Dude it's so funny most of the times... unless you have that sort of women as a "real" girlfriend. But well then it's your own fault.

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After all men have more power in the board room and women have it between their legs.

...I guess if any male member had said that he'd have been penalized to death and torn apart from Daystar personally... holy ****!

But well back to what I initially wanted to say
I also think women do have that manipulative power it would be plain wrong to deny it. But as far as I can see this "basic" charm only works for people on a certain level.
Women:
There are two types: The "primitve" ones that were born lucky enough to be attractive and use their natural assets to get what they want and the "sophisticated" ones that have so much more than just their body to get what they want.

The thing is the "primitive" ones can only work with "primitive" men (like your frat boy example). "Sophisticated" men wouldn't be manipulated by them. I'm not saying that they wouldn't get horny they most probably would but they would know what these women are trying thus not falling for them and being manipulated.

The "sophisticated" ones have
a) mastered the art of only using their body to an high grade (I'm not talking about prostitues...). They are clever in what they do

b)are women that have more to charm men that just their body.
They can basically pick what they want primitive men will fall for them 100% of the times and well if a such a women would try to seduce a "sophisticated" man it simply depends on the mood or it will be a battle of wits.

The thing is that I think you are being a bit too general with your rant about women.
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Mytical
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posted May 03, 2008 11:33 AM

Honestly I think the games both sexes play is kinda shallow and pathetic.  Some say it keeps the spice in a relationship, but I just don't see it.  Honesty is important to me, that is why I have a two strike rule.  First time is shame on me, second time and there won't be a third .  Like VF, I always found it easier to hang around guys, and could identify more with them for the most part.

Most of the things the other girls did when I was young felt so boring.  I personally think everybody should give up the game and be honest.  Doubt that will ever happen though.  Oh and just a note .

Guys, just because a couple of girls get dressed up and go out on the town, doesn't mean they automatically want to go back to your place.  Nor does it mean that they want to hear you calling them names because they don't swoon and start shedding clothes as soon as you look their way.

Just because they might dance a dance with you, doesn't mean they 'owe' you anything.  Personally I never accept a drink from a guy, ever.  I can pay for my own thanks .  Women should be able to look good without either being a 'tease' or having guys drool over them.  Just saying . (Ok mostly its the girls I go out to the clubs with that get most of the attention, but still ).

Still, it irks me that some females are so insecure about themselves that they will take things under false pretenses.  It's not right.
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Azagal
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posted May 04, 2008 03:57 PM

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Honestly I think the games both sexes play is kinda shallow and pathetic.

And sexy!  
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Some say it keeps the spice in a relationship, but I just don't see it.

Well I think it depends on the person whether or not it keeps the spice in the relationship. For you for example it doesn't but for me there is nothing more fun/tempting/seducing/sexy!
Well I can't be sure we are talking about the same thing when we talk about "the game" but played correctly by any side this is so hot! Atleast for me...

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Honesty is important to me

Whoops... are we talking about "the game" or about being dishonest with your partner? Well of course that is neither fun/tempting/seducing/sexy nor hot. That's stupid. But in case we were talking about "the game" how does honesty interfer with that? You can still play it right and still be honest can't you?

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I personally think everybody should give up the game and be honest.  Doubt that will ever happen though.  Oh and just a note .

Well why should one give up "the game"? It's fun! After all it's a game and you don't have to play if you don't want to. And those who choose to play take the risk of getting hurt. Of course there are victims of the game... but well... I think that's the fault of the people playing with them.

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Guys, just because a couple of girls get dressed up and go out on the town, doesn't mean they automatically want to go back to your place.  Nor does it mean that they want to hear you calling them names because they don't swoon and start shedding clothes as soon as you look their way. Just because they might dance a dance with you, doesn't mean they 'owe' you anything.

....it....it doesn't?
No seriously though are man that bad that you'd have to say it to them or is that just an general remark of yours?

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Women should be able to look good without either being a 'tease' or having guys drool over them.

You make it sound like as if being a "tease" is a bad thing. And it isn't (I think). Atleast not if we're talking about the same thing. For me a "tease" is
a) dressing so that you will have peoples attention
b) behaving in a manner that you will have peoples attention
what's wrong with that? I mean you do it on purpose so you should be ready for the effects.
But back to your statement women most certainly can look good without being naturally attractive (was that what you ment with having guess drool?) or a "tease". It's just that this kind of beauty takes more than the few moments you spend checking out somebody in the club. Normally you will not get into a conversation with your "target" before you choose to play, do you(obviuosly I'm talking about clubs, etc.)? So what do men have to work with before they start to get your attention?
Your looks, bodylanguage and...ehm... what's the word...Aura?charisma! So most of the times the man will not start to look on the other areas where the women might shine (character,etc.). Of course the situation is exactly the same the other way arround. No?

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Still, it irks me that some females are so insecure about themselves that they will take things under false pretenses.  It's not right.

I will not argue with you on this one but I wouldn't say that everytime women take something under false pretenses is because they feel insecure about themselves. But just because they are plain mean and take advantage of their victim (as in VF example).
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Mytical
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posted May 05, 2008 01:47 AM

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Whoops... are we talking about "the game" or about being dishonest with your partner? Well of course that is neither fun/tempting/seducing/sexy nor hot. That's stupid. But in case we were talking about "the game" how does honesty interfer with that? You can still play it right and still be honest can't you?
I am not talking about games (some can be real fun).  I am talking about lying and innuendo to manupulate the opposit (and sometimes the same) sex.

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Well why should one give up "the game"? It's fun! After all it's a game and you don't have to play if you don't want to. And those who choose to play take the risk of getting hurt. Of course there are victims of the game... but well... I think that's the fault of the people playing with them.
Yes and I am talking about the victimizers, not everybody in general.  I think you are thinking about what I call the dance (which is more fun, and isn't as manupulative).

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....it....it doesn't?
No seriously though are man that bad that you'd have to say it to them or is that just an general remark of yours?
It happens more then you think.  Now I will be the first to admit there are nice guys out there who this doesn't apply to.  Better safe then sorry to make sure there is no miscommunication .

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You make it sound like as if being a "tease" is a bad thing. And it isn't (I think). Atleast not if we're talking about the same thing. For me a "tease" is
a) dressing so that you will have peoples attention
b) behaving in a manner that you will have peoples attention
what's wrong with that? I mean you do it on purpose so you should be ready for the effects.
But back to your statement women most certainly can look good without being naturally attractive (was that what you ment with having guess drool?) or a "tease". It's just that this kind of beauty takes more than the few moments you spend checking out somebody in the club. Normally you will not get into a conversation with your "target" before you choose to play, do you(obviuosly I'm talking about clubs, etc.)? So what do men have to work with before they start to get your attention?
Your looks, bodylanguage and...ehm... what's the word...Aura?charisma! So most of the times the man will not start to look on the other areas where the women might shine (character,etc.). Of course the situation is exactly the same the other way arround. No?

Again, think there is a slight communication gap.  Commenting more on the double standards that still lurk in society today.  If a woman dresses a certain way, and does not respond to advances they are considered teases.  A guy can pretty much dress how they want (except a few extream cases) and not have this problem.
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Aculias
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posted May 05, 2008 06:12 AM

Shalaldjds
Close your legs everyone.
Siff ytal;l dont then thats ok trrttooooo,...
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Azagal
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posted May 05, 2008 07:13 AM

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I am talking about lying and innuendo to manupulate the opposit (and sometimes the same) sex.

Hmm... well I think it depends. Don't get me wrong lying is bad and I guess so is manipulating. And I'm not really (or am I?) trying to defend that but I think the whole thing would be a lot less fun without the whole manipulating and battle of wits. I mean as long as you aren't in a relationship you don't really have the commitments to be honest,etc. and sometimes manipulative people can be reaaally sexy! But again... it all depends. If you are a sucker for the person maipulating you and you are taken advantage of that's bad... but as long as both partners aren't in love with each other I think manipulating and teasing is ok (as long as we are talking about flirting again in a relationship it'd be a bad thing)

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If a woman dresses a certain way, and does not respond to advances they are considered teases.  A guy can pretty much dress how they want (except a few extream cases) and not have this problem.

Somehow I have difficulties understanding that one. Well yes the women will be a tease. But what's wrong with that? Being a tease = being sexy but not being interested in the people hitting on you. How is that a bad thing? Besides that works perfectly well for men aswell not only in extream cases. Or can't men dress sexy (sure women have more equipment than men ,skirts,bras,underwear,shoes,etc. but still men have a limited equipment that they can make use of!)?
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la_ultima_hora
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posted May 05, 2008 08:56 AM

IMHO, Women are B****es! not all. but most.
they they use guys for stupid reasons.
haha im a chick... so that might sound wierd coming from me.
but thats just my opinion.

but guys can be the same too. SO DONT THINK YOUR INNOCENT HA!
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posted May 05, 2008 03:58 PM

 The fact is that men for the most part are animalistic creatures and when teased long enough will strike in one way or another. Not to excuse or stand up for men that physically take it from college girl teases after having them straddle them all night in nothing but a piece of jean material they are playing off for a skirt. I have scene girls play grabby crouch, rub their boobs all over them, and even get naked and go right to that point then say no. Now is it a person’s right to say no? Yes! However the fact is that in those cases of snowy, sleazy, out right manipulating behavior I can’t say that my empathy goes far for the girls who claim “rape”.

While we can only control our actions in this world and the way we react to something, it is just unfair and wrong to mentally screw with someone’s head in that way. The urge to have sex or hump like dogs is part of our animalistic natural and if you ever watch dogs have intercourse does it appear to you that they are both consenting? Not really. It looks like the male is out of control completely and the female is trying to get away, hence the reason that males hump fire hydrants. Well intercourse is for procreation and there are very specific feelings that one has physically and when a women pulls that **** to get free drinks or sometimes just to sit back and say she knew she could do it, is pathetic.

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posted July 09, 2012 02:08 AM

I revisited this post and realized that my beliefs about women are even more solidified.
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posted July 09, 2012 02:30 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 02:51, 09 Jul 2012.

Pfft it's pointless, for all their power, women have no idea what they want, while men do, simple thought it might be.
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posted July 09, 2012 02:56 AM

They usually know what they want for a moment, its not the fact they can't make up their minds, its usually how they go about getting what pleases them for a brief moment.
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posted July 09, 2012 03:49 AM

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Pfft it's pointless, for all their power, women have no idea what they want, while men do, simple thought it might be.
Sexist generalizations are fun.
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posted July 09, 2012 03:53 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 03:54, 09 Jul 2012.

We have to start somewhere, besides, you read what you wanted to read.
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posted July 09, 2012 04:14 AM

Lots of fun however I can tell you that stereotypes exists for a reason and I have personally experienced these same things with about every female I have came across.
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posted July 09, 2012 05:02 AM

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I have personally experienced these same things with about every female I have came across.
Every female? If you mean that literally (does this also apply to you?), I'm sorry you've had such negative experiences with women. But I suspect that isn't really the case. Statistically speaking, you probably don't know most women you've met well enough to be able to say they're as you describe. I know some women that are as you describe, but I also know plenty of women who really aren't like that. They consider using sex as a weapon to be despicable, as it's meant to be an expression of caring and closeness, not something used to control men.

From your first post:
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Why do men cheat, because they can’t handle the snowing they have to go through to just shove her head in the pillow once a week? Why do men look to their male friends for a relaxing time, because the claw marks on their souls from all the women they have tried to wow are reminders of why “Dale” is just more fun to hang with? Women can’t figure out why men don’t communicate all the freaking time with them, well when the communication consist of, they are wrong and you are right end of story, this makes it unappealing.
Sounds like these men are in bad relationships, but that doesn't justify cheating. If the guy doesn't like it, he should talk to his significant other and discuss their problems openly and honestly. They should work on their problems, if they both consider their relationship important enough to fix, or break up. There is no excuse for cheating. To respond to your other points from personal experience - while I enjoy spending time with all my friends, prolonged social interaction with several people becomes tiring, and then I like to just lie down with her, hold her, talk to her (and only her), and relax. Spending time with her one-on-one makes me happy, and I truly enjoy it - there are no "claw marks" on my soul. And I communicate with her, because communication isn't "I'm wrong and you're right", it's "If you ever have a problem with anything, be honest and come and talk to me, don't be afraid to talk about it, etc" from both sides - and that's really how it works. Thus, any misunderstandings are prevented - each of us knows what the other wants. Because we care about each other (that's how relationships are supposed to work), we have always come to a conclusion that satisfies both of us, without any arguing, fighting, or passive-aggressiveness.
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posted July 09, 2012 11:36 AM

Not yet! But God, if you would forgive them, for they know not what they do. What is porneia? Therefore, a forced marriage! "Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice in the wife of your youth. As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Be exhilarated always with her love." - Proverbs 5:18, 19

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posted July 09, 2012 10:33 PM

@ MVA:

I am glad that you don't view it the same way I do and bless you for that, I have had bad experiences. I find hanging out with women is just exhausting!
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