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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: The Treant
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Golemcrafter
Golemcrafter


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posted March 12, 2007 06:17 PM
Edited by Golemcrafter at 18:18, 12 Mar 2007.

Poll Question:
The Treant

Hello everybody! It was a long time ago I was here. Now I got something for you now:

I hope you remember the Treant-problem: there were two ideas and two pictures about the Treant in Heroes V. The two pictures are the following:



and

the image of the real Treant in HOMM V. (i couldn't find a picture sorry!)

In my opinion the first Treant is much more better than the current Treant. I'd like to have him back in a patch or something! But I'd like to hear your opinions! Let's rock!

P.S.: Of course, abilities stays!!!
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able to picture every single
detail of his faction
accurately, something most of
us would be unable ... too long to display...

Responses:
I'd like to change the current Treant into the other Treant!
I don't want to change the current Treant!
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baklava
baklava


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posted March 12, 2007 06:24 PM

You're right, the current treant is way less cool than the first version... And there are already mods that replace their models.
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Golemcrafter
Golemcrafter


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posted March 12, 2007 06:25 PM

Quote:
You're right, the current treant is way less cool than the first version... And there are already mods that replace their models.


Where? WHERE??? WhEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE????????????
Please say it to me pleasepleaseplease.....!!!!!
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recognized that his mind was
able to picture every single
detail of his faction
accurately, something most of
us would be unable ... too long to display...

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baklava
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posted March 12, 2007 06:31 PM

Eeeeasy now, my friend... Focus your chi
Here you go. As far as I know, you just put the .pak file in the Heroes of Might and Magic V\data\ folder. I hope it works...
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Golemcrafter
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posted March 12, 2007 09:47 PM

Quote:
Eeeeasy now, my friend... Focus your chi
Here you go. As far as I know, you just put the .pak file in the Heroes of Might and Magic V\data\ folder. I hope it works...


Thanks! It works!
But where is the Take Roots ability?
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baklava
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posted March 12, 2007 09:48 PM

Well I think that's the only problem - they don't have it anymore... But hey, nothing's perfect
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Golemcrafter
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posted March 12, 2007 09:56 PM

Quote:
Well I think that's the only problem - they don't have it anymore... But hey, nothing's perfect


Yeah you are right...
Btw do you play with the current or with the "new" Treant? Do you miss the Take Roots ability?
As I see now more people say that the new Treant is better...
Btw 2: Did you vote baklava?
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baklava
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posted March 12, 2007 10:07 PM

Nah, I don't really use mods... I play with the ordinary version of the treant. But I voted for the beta-version one...
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Golemcrafter
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posted March 13, 2007 01:10 PM

Quote:
Nah, I don't really use mods... I play with the ordinary version of the treant. But I voted for the beta-version one...


Then welcome to my Beta-version Treant fan club!
One last question: If I play now with THE Treant mod (means: in the game is the beta Treant) can I play in internet with thoose players who donīt use this mod?
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ZombieLord
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that wants your brainz...
posted March 13, 2007 01:18 PM

No you can't.

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GenieLord
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posted March 13, 2007 02:06 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 15:16, 13 Mar 2007.

Welcome back GolemCrafter! Nice to see you around.

About the Treant:
Well, the new Treant is a large creature, while the old one was small.
Every faction has 3 large creatures. Without the new Treant, Sylvan has only 2. I think that this is the main reason why they changed it.
Second, the Treant as tank-creatures has much better tactical use as large creature.
It hides the Hunters and the Druids, it can block more creatures' movement as large creature, because there are cases that he doesn't have to move to reach from one creature the other, as large creature, etc.
I will prefer to keep it as it is.

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alcibiades
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posted March 13, 2007 02:16 PM

Plus, the new one looks better.

The old one looked like a wooden fence.
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baklava
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posted March 13, 2007 03:07 PM

@GenieLord If they made liches large, they could've made the beta treant large too... Btw I think it's possible to make it a large creature. I'm pretty sure even. Somewhere in those text files...
Quote:
The old one looked like a wooden fence.

Yeah but the new one looks like Spiderman with an Afro haircut who went to Chernobyl for his holidays...
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alcibiades
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posted March 13, 2007 03:22 PM

It is, every creature has in its data file a property called CreatureSize, which is either 1 (small) or 2 (large). I'm pretty sure, however, that changing this value will only change the number of squares the creature occupies on the battlefield, and not the looks, i.e. the graphical data would have to be scaled somehow. Never played around with those things, though, so don't know for sure.
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Golemcrafter
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posted March 13, 2007 08:40 PM
Edited by Golemcrafter at 20:42, 13 Mar 2007.

You too GenieLord! Thanks!

Treant are now my second favourite creatures!
Is there any more differences between the beta-Treant and the HOMM V real-Treant?

And of course voting, voting, voting if there are anyone who didn't did that so far! I am very corious.
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VokialBG
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posted March 13, 2007 08:47 PM

Quote:
Welcome back GolemCrafter! Nice to see you around.

About the Treant:
Well, the new Treant is a large creature, while the old one was small.


Nope it was large creature
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GenieLord
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posted March 13, 2007 09:01 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 21:05, 13 Mar 2007.

Quote:
Quote:
Welcome back GolemCrafter! Nice to see you around.

About the Treant:
Well, the new Treant is a large creature, while the old one was small.


Nope it was large creature


Really?
Well, let's check it.

Hey, you are right! I have seen only the left picture and it seemed to me like small creature.

Anyway, they seem to me so weird (Well, the present Treant is weird, too ><.
It's a bit sloppy, with those strarge hands.
Huge and symmetrical hands look so robitic.
I prefer the present version.

BTW: if anyone wants to use the old one, there's a version of it here.
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Golemcrafter
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posted March 13, 2007 09:06 PM

Well to give an answer to your problem in the mod I play with now is the Treant a large creature without the Take Roots ability.
But my question: is f.e.: the attack or the defense different between the two Treants?
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GenieLord
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posted March 13, 2007 09:10 PM
Edited by GenieLord at 21:11, 13 Mar 2007.

The Status of the present Treant is:
A: 19
De: 27
Dam: 7-17
Ini: 7
S: 6
HP: 175

Ancient Treant:
A: 19
De: 29
Dam: 10-20
Ini: 7
S: 6
HP: 181

Check if yours Treant status isn't similiar to this one.
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Homer171
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posted March 14, 2007 07:18 AM

I like the Beta Trent better. I used this mod for some time but now i don't use any mods. It's easier to start online games anyway.

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