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Corpfox
Corpfox

Tavern Dweller
posted October 03, 2007 12:19 AM
Edited by Corpfox at 00:21, 03 Oct 2007.

A copy/paste, I didn't "check" if there were other similar threads.

It was bizzare, the AI had a Level 2 Wizard hero with 8 Golems, I had a Level 1 Knight with 1 Conscript.

I thought I was dead, then all the sudden, the AI kept supporting the Golems using Bless and Endurance spells while they were in Defend mode.

I manage to kill all 8 Golems with my Knight Hero, solo...

Next time, the AI attacks me again, Level 12 Wizard, tough army, Vs a Level 3 Knight with 1 Peasant!

Same thing happens, all on Defend Mode, magic units support others, AI Hero supports others. Just before I lost, I manage to kill 6 Iron Golems...

Normal Difficulty, 2vs1vs1 map (2 CPU Vs 1 CPU vs ME).

http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aistupid1ft6.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aistupid2qf1.jpg

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Duncan
Duncan


Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
posted October 03, 2007 06:57 AM

Try Hard or Heroic level, I doubt that will happen. I tried similar thing last night, the enemy wizard immediately cast Fist of Wrath.
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Slim-Sleeper
Slim-Sleeper


Hired Hero
Lazy
posted October 20, 2007 12:27 PM

If your facing a strong cpu magic hero, try to make him waste his mana on a weak army first : ) Say you attack with 1+1+1+1+1+1+20 weak units, like zombies, pesants, gargoyles, scouts, so on.., hopefully the enemy hero will waste mana on buffs and prolly a single hit destructive spell. You can prolly even take out an enemy or two with your hero : )

Then when you hit with your main army the enemy hero will hopefully be almost out of mana. And if you are inferno with lots of imps then the enemy hero is no good : )

That is also an example of bad cpu player.

And yeah, doomforge, you know that you can tweek the bots in cs to become really really good? They wont get the ingame IQ, but they can get superfast reactions and superb aim : ) So the best ingame IQ players in the world could beat them if they sneak up behind them and fire a bullet in their head... but otherwise your dead ; ) And quake is quite fun on singleplayer, can easely knock off an hour or two : ) But I agree, they are mainly MP..

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Nebuka
Nebuka


Promising
Supreme Hero
Save me Jebus!
posted October 20, 2007 01:59 PM
Edited by Nebuka at 14:34, 20 Oct 2007.

Tribes AI seems improved. Using magic effectivelly, troops placement is fine...and it even split stacks for maximum damage (I mean, for instance, one hero had only archers - and when it attacked my scout he split them in all seven slots, very nice)...but still flees battles somewhat stupidly.
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Vidoja
Vidoja


Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Checker for Heroes Competiton
posted October 20, 2007 02:25 PM

Yeah, AI sucks. One time, I had a empty castle and it was day 7. I really build it up, and it was Sylvan I think (Tear of Ossir I think) and he had a small army but he could buy all my creatures (Thives Guild, he had more gold than me, and even I had alot). My army couldnt get to him in one turn, and maybe I would defeat him when he buys all my creatures, but that means I couldnt buy them + I would lose some defeating him. And guess what he does? He flagged a local Sawmill. Lol... Unless I am very much mistaking, HOMMIV AI was better, and in combat and in advanture map.
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ZeroXcuses
ZeroXcuses


Known Hero
posted June 01, 2008 10:18 PM

I would think that a mod would create something to redo the AI. THat would be the best mod of all time.

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arxur
arxur


Adventuring Hero
posted June 01, 2008 10:42 PM

I agree with nebuka.

On Heroic the AI is good opponent, but the AI always runs away from combat, if my army is a bit more powerful than his.
I think AI still has a bit problem with spell casting. Even in heroic it chooses to cast slow with no mastery instead of implosion...
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del_diablo
del_diablo


Legendary Hero
Manifest
posted June 01, 2008 10:53 PM

Heck.... what i miss in the Ai is a single tingy: Will run of at the exact last turn it could ever be possible to get in combat(like 1 low number zombi stack against insane opponent army).
I kind of miss it

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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted June 02, 2008 02:30 AM

I usually upgrade only one hero and AI maybe 2 or 3.I hate whenever he attacks me with little army casts a spell(chain lightning or meteor shower or...) and flees or dies.

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted June 02, 2008 10:51 AM

freaking AI retreats in hard or heroic dif. it makes me mad
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Laue
Laue


Adventuring Hero
posted June 02, 2008 02:00 PM
Edited by Laue at 14:04, 02 Jun 2008.

WTF are you talking about guys, I still have some problems on normal, even then they are capped for so many things. Well I know I'm still a newbye, but IMO everyone who gets really good at any game can start saying that AI is bad.

Also never ever even on normal AI has done such stupidities like people tell here. If they have a stronger army, they chase me down, ussualy ignoring mines. The one taking mines is ussualy hero/-es with 1 stack of 1 tier one unit. And so far they NEVER hesitated to take my towns when undefended. Only thing that can be considered stupid is going from a boat to flag a mine and then boarding again (only 1 stack army heroes of course). And this is ONLY on normal. You guys must be bugged or something...
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted June 02, 2008 02:43 PM

Just play more.  When you start having better armies you will see odd behavior.

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted June 02, 2008 03:41 PM

Quote:
WTF are you talking about guys, I still have some problems on normal, even then they are capped for so many things. Well I know I'm still a newbye, but IMO everyone who gets really good at any game can start saying that AI is bad.

Also never ever even on normal AI has done such stupidities like people tell here. If they have a stronger army, they chase me down, ussualy ignoring mines. The one taking mines is ussualy hero/-es with 1 stack of 1 tier one unit. And so far they NEVER hesitated to take my towns when undefended. Only thing that can be considered stupid is going from a boat to flag a mine and then boarding again (only 1 stack army heroes of course). And this is ONLY on normal. You guys must be bugged or something...


start playing with hard or heroic level,they retreats even if they have bigger chances win than you have
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted June 02, 2008 07:15 PM

@Laue you should start playing online immediately,if you ever want to become better.The AI is dumber and uses cheats.It is always like he sees the whole map and what to get before the game starts.

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Laue
Laue


Adventuring Hero
posted June 02, 2008 08:19 PM

@Nikita : I will try once I settle with one faction on which I should focus. Every single one of them is awesome on some situations, and sucky in others. Also I suck at creeping and town building. I don't think I have the right priorities, as I get stuck with lot's of high tier but unupgraded units.

On stupid AI though, only thing I see stupid is AI's priorities in battle for inferno. It COMPLETELY ignores gated units NO MATTER WHAT, and has priorities like: Cerberi, then imps, then nightmares, then everything else... Succubi are ussualy the last to die.
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Nikita
Nikita


Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
posted June 02, 2008 08:41 PM

I don't really concentrate on getting high tier creatures until i can completely afford them.I usually creep with 1-5 tier creatures(depends what faction).If I have enough resources I build high tiers,but dont upgrade them until i have enough to buy them all upgraded.

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Bone_Master
Bone_Master


Adventuring Hero
posted June 02, 2008 08:48 PM

Why the fudge do people complain that the A.I is stupid?You don't want to lose,do you?

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted June 02, 2008 10:05 PM
Edited by WarLore at 22:25, 02 Jun 2008.

i would actually lose even ONCE.cuz you learn more if you lose than if you win -.-
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 02, 2008 10:14 PM

If the AI is better than me let it try. But right now it's neither challenging nor fun.
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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted June 02, 2008 10:30 PM
Edited by WarLore at 22:31, 02 Jun 2008.

Quote:
A copy/paste, I didn't "check" if there were other similar threads.

It was bizzare, the AI had a Level 2 Wizard hero with 8 Golems, I had a Level 1 Knight with 1 Conscript.

I thought I was dead, then all the sudden, the AI kept supporting the Golems using Bless and Endurance spells while they were in Defend mode.

I manage to kill all 8 Golems with my Knight Hero, solo...

Next time, the AI attacks me again, Level 12 Wizard, tough army, Vs a Level 3 Knight with 1 Peasant!

Same thing happens, all on Defend Mode, magic units support others, AI Hero supports others. Just before I lost, I manage to kill 6 Iron Golems...

Normal Difficulty, 2vs1vs1 map (2 CPU Vs 1 CPU vs ME).

http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aistupid1ft6.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aistupid2qf1.jpg


wich heroesV game you have? because for me in ToTe in normal difficulty,AI kills my low armies like just bought hero's armies before i get turn in most times.still AI sucks
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