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Edwin_Yang
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posted November 21, 2007 10:36 AM |
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@Edwin Yang
I thought you were an Academy guy. 
yes,but dungeon is still my second choice.
because I enjoy casting AOE spells on the enemy and watching them fall down in a flash..
@Doomforge thanks for your good advice
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 21, 2007 10:38 AM |
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yes,but dungeon is still my second choice.
because I enjoy casting AOE spells on the enemy and watching them fall down in a flash..
Oh I second that! Yum!
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Edwin_Yang
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posted November 21, 2007 02:24 PM |
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umm...another question about play against necropolis..
I'v met many necropolis players can collect more than 200(close to 300)
skeleton warriors in week2 and they have rise dead spell.and dungeon usually run out of mana.
it is really easy for dungeon to rush necropolis in TOTE.?
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samiekl
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posted November 21, 2007 03:45 PM |
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yes, it is, necro is the castle that dungeon can take out fairly easy, although... i had a game last week when i lost against it because of a scroll of armageddon and expert destructive on necro.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted November 21, 2007 04:58 PM |
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it was always easy to win in this matchup, unless something that happens too rarely to take it into consideration (midgame shackle rush or the armageddon thingie samiekl mentioned) happened. It hasn't changed, I think.
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 22, 2007 02:04 AM |
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A question about playing Dungeon against Academy. Is it because of Summoning Magic that makes it hard to beat or probably even level this faction? Or there are other matters involve? What are those?
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kermit
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Soul hunter
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posted November 22, 2007 02:40 AM |
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a few things really make academy a stronger castle, perhaps one of the strongest overall.
1: Very good creeping
2: magic resistant units
3: magic mirror/ counterspell
4: Dark spells >> dungeon can't cleanse those
5: A better casting rate and more spell variety
6: mini artifacts
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 22, 2007 03:14 AM |
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Edited by Ceres at 03:15, 22 Nov 2007.
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Academy? The strongest faction?  I'd better switch!
2: magic resistant units
So even with the Irresistible skill, ability or (what's the right thing for that?, Dungeon would not do good damage to its creatures? And even if they do, Summoning Magic is still there... Phantom Force.. And there's no way to counter that?
3: magic mirror/ counterspell
I don't know how this thing works. It seems powerful.
4: Dark spells >> dungeon can't cleanse those
Sad... so this is the weakness.
5: A better casting rate and more spell variety
Is this because of Sorcery or there are other things involved.
6: mini artifacts
I'm totally lost. What are these? 
I'm so newbie. I should explore more. And no... I won't switch for now.
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Edwin_Yang
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posted November 22, 2007 03:49 AM |
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2: magic resistant units
umm..yes..half of the creatures in academy get magic resistance.but irresistible magic still work. magnetic golem is trouble..so..dungeon should rush academy early I think.there is still a chance.
3: magic mirror/ counterspell
magic mirror wont turn the AOE spell back.and you can use your magic units(shadow witch) to deals with the counterspell. they are the threats to dungeon but are not so deadly.
4: Dark spells >> dungeon can't cleanse those
well..I agree with that.
5: A better casting rate and more spell variety
motw make the wizard cast more times in a turn.but it is wont make much difference if your finish the game early in a few turns.
6: mini artifacts
the unique skill of academy,allow the hero to create creatur equipment.
since it is so costly it wont work in the early game,so dont worry about that.
I think you could choose what you like ,no matter they are strong or not..
@ samiekl and Doomforge. thanks. maybe you are right. well I think wether the curse of the netherworld shoul be taken into account since it's damage has been increased a lot and there is 1/3 chance for necroloplis to get it?
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 22, 2007 03:57 AM |
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Thanks for the explanation, I feel better now
Ofcourse, I do like Dungeon, but Academy looks promising to me since the first time I saw it. And Dungeon was my hatest! I just got bored with Haven because of the reality that they most probably do good in Late game and I got bored easily so I happen to choose another faction and here it is Dungeon!
Btw, when we talk about rush how many weeks are involved?
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Edwin_Yang
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posted November 22, 2007 04:04 AM |
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IMO....no more than 4 weeks or earlier. I think.
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 22, 2007 04:23 AM |
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Hmm... that's still hard for me. I wonder how am I going to kill somebody in time that short. What's the highest level a hero can get in the said duration?
My last game, with an AI in normal mode took me 7 weeks! And that's vs Inferno! It was fun, but I wasn't challenged that much because I know there's much behind.
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sphere
Supreme Hero
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posted November 22, 2007 04:37 AM |
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Hi,
- Well, Ceres ( which actually is the name of a beer where I come from ) you should really look into the pdf files that comes with the game. YOu can get alot of info from there. Also there is a skillwheel to go with that.
- And on a sidenote, it all depends on the map, I think most seasoned player(s) will agree with me on that one.
- Guz
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Who is this General Failure, and why is he looking at my disk ?
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 22, 2007 07:12 AM |
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Yeah, the manual. I was just talking about experience.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 22, 2007 07:15 PM |
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Are haven players that are interested in dungeon tactics weird to you?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 22, 2007 09:48 PM |
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I know. Don't take everything seriously, I was joking
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 23, 2007 12:10 AM |
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Um, I know this is a bit off topic. Actually I love Haven, but the truth that its power can be seen during late game really bores me at the moment so I want to try out other factions. And now here's Dungeon. I must admit that now, I know more about Dungeon (and Necro) than Haven.
Also, in my opinion Haven is not that effective. I don't really know but based on what I read mostly here, Academy and Sylvan are like overpowered. Especially Academy, that faction is very popular as you can see it tops in most of the positive polls here. Even Dungeon can't hold them much, maybe. I really want to have a game with those factions.
But I think, that learning other factions will help me improve playing my favorite faction, since if I had learned my enemy I will probably know its weakness. I just hope the case is applicable here .
My love for Haven won't change. I'm loyal.
Ok, back to the topic:
What creature should I best use in creeping versus Phoenixes?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 23, 2007 12:22 AM |
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I suppose a few stalkers and your witches to shoot/slow. It's the spells that do most of the work anyway.
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The_Gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted November 23, 2007 07:16 AM |
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Sometimes it makes better sense to wait with your Deep Hydras instead of defending. Waiting takes half a turn..which kind of doubles their regeneration ability.
Fighting Phoenix? Ice Bolt and Cold Death makes it a quick death.
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Ceres
Supreme Hero
and sweetness
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posted November 23, 2007 09:05 AM |
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Ohkay! Thanks for your tips. I think I'm going to use Deep Hydras for the meantime. I still do not own TotE, really sad but its always out of stock. 
Also may I ask, why ice spells? There are other spells that could kill more Phoenixes than those ice spells.
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