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Thread: Secrets of destruction revealed - playing Dungeon faction This thread is 61 pages long: 1 10 20 30 40 50 ... 52 53 54 55 56 ... 60 61 · «PREV / NEXT»
Temudschin
Temudschin

Tavern Dweller
posted July 30, 2008 11:01 PM
Edited by Temudschin at 23:04, 30 Jul 2008.

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How do you play the file?



\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V - Tribes of the East\Profiles\yourprofile\replays

Put the file in the replays folder, create it if necessary.

Start the game and go to options -> record -> watch fight.



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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted July 30, 2008 11:35 PM
Edited by Elvin at 23:36, 30 Jul 2008.

Just played a bit let's fight and kept some early replays. Just cast when you are threatened with casualties - even when you can spare some mana don't, you'll need it ahead. If the enemy is slow you can run around hitting with your hero all the while.
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Siyana
Siyana

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posted July 31, 2008 01:11 AM

Thanks for the videos Samiekl and Elvin, they were great.

Elvin- I hadn't thought of using Furies like that- I only thought about running out of range of zombies, I almost never hit them. As for the abandoned mine- what would have happened if there were liches? You would have just lost a couple stalkers, right?

Samiekl- Why did the phoenixes and Air Elemental defend in the beginning? When I fought them, they rushed over faster than I could move. Also, did you take exp from chests? If yes, how many chests/for how long?

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 31, 2008 01:16 AM

If there were liches I'd be in a tight spot because they are 9 and they also come with 26 spectres.. You must make sure you have enough mana and spellpower but at least you rarely get liches.

As a rule of thumb people do not get chests for multiplayer. I only get a few till I hit lvl 5 and then only gold.
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Siyana
Siyana

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posted July 31, 2008 01:47 AM

I'd heard that generally taking gold is the better choice- but level 24 by week three? Wow

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samiekl
samiekl


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posted July 31, 2008 08:22 AM

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Samiekl- Why did the phoenixes and Air Elemental defend in the beginning? When I fought them, they rushed over faster than I could move.
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i dunno, they usually move.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted July 31, 2008 09:01 AM

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I'd heard that generally taking gold is the better choice- but level 24 by week three? Wow


It's called powercreeping. And yes, exp first helps a lot, after 4-5 levelups you should take only gold, imho.

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samiekl
samiekl


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posted July 31, 2008 09:57 AM

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I think it's been done with all factions other than fortress and orcs but since then who knows.


Elit and me broke with orcs in week 3. Well, actually i broke in week 4 day 1 because of movement (got logistics very late)  but with week 3 army.

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Dagon
Dagon


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posted July 31, 2008 11:23 AM
Edited by Dagon at 11:24, 31 Jul 2008.

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(...) in week 1:castle+ hydras in town, citadel + hydras in 2 other towns + hydra dwelling)
week 2 finish castle in 2 towns. Do the math and see how many hydras you get in week 3.

WoW!
I'm sure this is possible but it has to be very rich map to build all of these structures in second week. A lot of wood, ore and crystalis is required. Unless I missed something?
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samiekl
samiekl


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posted July 31, 2008 11:56 AM

Actually the map is not THAT rich. Not building mage guilds, taking mines, elemental stockpile and that witch thing that gives resources very fast will help your economy a lot.

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Dagon
Dagon


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posted July 31, 2008 12:25 PM

Not build Mage Guild? Unusual technique We must hope that Secrets of Destruction give us something good.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 31, 2008 01:31 PM

By the time you return to town again the creeping is over.
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samiekl
samiekl


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posted July 31, 2008 08:04 PM

Here's what i mean by fury creeping:
click
No empowered spells, no level 4-5 spells, no spectacular spellpower.
You need to master fury creeping very well to be a decent dungeon player. And creeping is just half of the game. Combat experience is another chapter.

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Dagon
Dagon


Adventuring Hero
posted July 31, 2008 09:39 PM

@Elvin
It means that I'm still too weak player. I can't deal with all of creeps without some reinforcement(new spells and units) from my castle
@samiekl
Unfortunately I can't watch this replay. I'm in foreign country and my PC is not able to deal with H5 graphics But I've downloaded it and I promiss to watch it asap. I've watched some of yours previous replays and I've learned some ticks(or maybe I think I've learned ).

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 31, 2008 09:59 PM

It's a kind of avalanche, gaining levels quick will give you more knowledge and spellpower that will in turn make your creeping even faster. If you get a lvl 2 spell or even better lvl 3(esp fireball/wall) things become a lot easier.

Dungeon has less problems than most in creeping, they always have destructive they can depend on and stalkers that remain out of harm's way most of the time.
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Nebdar
Nebdar


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Generation N
posted August 15, 2008 08:35 PM

Hey!
I mostly play on Heritage map and on the begining of game the Ore Pit & Lumber Mill is guarded by Random Tier1 cratures. Some times they are guraded by
Sprites, Stalkers, Assisins,
And thats why i have question:
What is the best tactic to handle without losess
In other words what expierienced Dungeon Player should do to kill them

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Lexxan
Lexxan


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posted August 15, 2008 09:37 PM

The Best Heroes to creep with are (IMO): Sinitar, Vayshan and Yrwanna.
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Nebdar
Nebdar


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Generation N
posted August 16, 2008 09:52 AM
Edited by Nebdar at 09:53, 16 Aug 2008.

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The Best Heroes to creep with are (IMO): Sinitar, Vayshan and Yrwanna.

I didn't ask for best hero onlyI already know that
Ask what type of units and hero, tactic you would use on day 1-2 to destroy them without losses

And how should i use them against:
Sprites, Stalkers, Assasins

In other words you play some any other map its day 1 or 2(Week 1 month 1 ) you want to capture Lumber Mill or/and Ore Pit but these creatures are guarding (Sprites, Stalkers, Assasins)them. So you do.... what

Ok you choose one of those heroes and then..... what you do with him

Attack and how do you do that.... So you would have no loses

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted August 16, 2008 10:01 AM

Not much to do rather than use stalkers and spells I'm afraid. Vs sprites your lose something whether you want it or not, assassins depends if you manage to cast or get invisible first and about the stalkers I wait until they get invisible and a turn passes before I get invisible myself. They will appear one turn before you do so you can get the first strike.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted August 16, 2008 10:10 AM

you can cope with losing 2-3 stalkers. Just use, idk, 4 stacks of 1 stalker, lose some, turn remaining invisible and finish it with eldritch arrow.

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