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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2007 12:45 PM

You mean heaven is better if you play on gigantic map with 3+ castles per side and muddy terrain so he couldn't rush you fast enough , in this case yes, Heaven is better. Its just that such maps don't exist
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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 30, 2007 12:49 PM

Quote:
You mean heaven is better if you play on gigantic map with 3+ castles per side and muddy terrain so he couldn't rush you fast enough , in this case yes, Heaven is better. Its just that such maps don't exist


you are becoming too frustrated with academy ... I invite you to try and defeat me on bfh ... with the super fast Academy . I'll be Sylvan .

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2007 01:05 PM

perhaps , but you know you need to do a little whining to make them nerfed
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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 30, 2007 01:19 PM

I don't want them nerfed at all .. They are fine the way they are, I can't beleive anyone would find them overpowered ! They used to be considered the worst and now they are overpowered ?! without being improved in any way ?!

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 30, 2007 01:28 PM

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I don't want them nerfed at all .. They are fine the way they are, I can't beleive anyone would find them overpowered ! They used to be considered the worst and now they are overpowered ?! without being improved in any way ?!


Exactly. It's really funny to observe how much things can change with a proper strategy. I don't want any nerfs for academy either.

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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 30, 2007 01:56 PM

I think many people here are pretty easy to impress ... But everybody forgets how pathetic damage dealers academy has between lvl 1 - 3. The MG is their best bet, but hey if you place all your money on a lvl 1 creature you are insane .
Lvl 4 brings the ArchMages which are great in the begining, but very hard on most maps cause they cost alot , so they'll usually get ignored for the rush. And in the long run they get weaker and weaker ...
Lvl 5-7 bring to you some decent damage dealers, but don't expect something incredible ... Anyway all the towns are good in lvl 5-7 .

The hero gets tons of knowledge which is great for creeping , but when facing an opponent doesn't mean that much, unless you have some great spells.

So without damage dealers and without a great spell you are quite vulnerable ... I usually aim for armageddon, cause that is what I call a great spell ! My second choice would be the Phoenix and my third Implosion. Without these you will most likely lose the battle than win it imho...

Oh yeah and there is War Machines... if you want to rush, I advice you to use this one ! A Wizard Ballista will reach about base 100-150 dmg / shot , which is not bad at all, but certainly isn't a game winner . If you get flamming arrow it means alot of damage. In a rush this damage is really something, but later on it's not that great. Also you have easy acces to counter spell, which might turn out interesting .

Anyway I don't find anything overpowered in all these things that I mentioned. For me Dungeon is simply more reliable, and stronger for rushes, also great creeper. A simple Fireball + Lightning Bolt combo can win the game with Dungeon easily, no need for lvl 5 mage guild !

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2007 02:09 PM
Edited by feluniozbunio at 14:09, 30 Mar 2007.

You don't want to convince people to change their votes Towerlord, do you ?

The reason for such a change in valuating academy's strength is that Academy doesn't look good on paper but developed advanced strategies which have been invented in time made it powerful. People needed time to  learn how to play it and now when they know how to do it they changed their mind about the castle.  
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emilsn
emilsn


Legendary Hero
posted March 30, 2007 03:24 PM

I'm no pro, And i will not play any! But how can you say Academy is the best! Fortress rocks people. And as i said im no pro, but wont Fortress put out a good fight against those Mages? Fortress has a great magic resistance and with runes and that . they should be abel to win or atleast cut off almost every throat of those damn god Mages!!

And how weird is that with Haven being greatest and then now its academy, in some way it's good for academy finally to be back at their high rank, like in HoMM2 3 (4? Havnt really played it),
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Halm
Halm


Hired Hero
posted March 30, 2007 03:33 PM

I voted for haven.




Quote:
You don't want to convince people to change their votes Towerlord, do you ?

The reason for such a change in valuating academy's strength is that Academy doesn't look good on paper but developed advanced strategies which have been invented in time made it powerful. People needed time to  learn how to play it and now when they know how to do it they changed their mind about the castle.  


No comment. Everyone who is in love with a faction says things like that.
But while nobody has 5 accounts to support his favorite faction everything is ok.


P.S. : Isn't Sylvan the best on the paper?

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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted March 30, 2007 05:41 PM

Cmon, Nur isn't really fair...
Scenario: a fight against 1000(doesn't really matter how many) Emeralds.
How to beat them?
-puppet 1 Emerald stack and move it next to your cornered 1x1 stack.
-deal damage with MotW + Frenzy
-keep recasting puppet
You can also buy yourself a lot of time(and mana) with mass slow - if you have it of course.

I mean, a nicely developed Nur(huge knowledge + high level mystic) can break through almost any blindable/puppetable creeps.
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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 30, 2007 05:58 PM

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Cmon, Nur isn't really fair...
Scenario: a fight against 1000(doesn't really matter how many) Emeralds.
How to beat them?
-puppet 1 Emerald stack and move it next to your cornered 1x1 stack.
-deal damage with MotW + Frenzy
-keep recasting puppet
You can also buy yourself a lot of time(and mana) with mass slow - if you have it of course.

I mean, a nicely developed Nur(huge knowledge + high level mystic) can break through almost any blindable/puppetable creeps.


of course that can be done with every Necromancer + MotN ... so I don't see the problem ! and necros have a higher chance of getting blind/ puppet !
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ZombieLord
ZombieLord


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Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 30, 2007 06:00 PM

You know, with MotN you have to deal a good amount of damage to restore mana, while with Nur...

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TowerLord
TowerLord


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Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
posted March 30, 2007 06:02 PM

and what are those frenzied units gonna do ?
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ZombieLord
ZombieLord


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Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
posted March 30, 2007 06:05 PM

Well yeah, but Nur can defeat infinite Emeralds even in one stack (doesn't matter how many) with one gremlin, but with the Necromancer it's impossible.

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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Supreme Hero
posted March 30, 2007 06:08 PM

OMG I told u all that Academy is BROKEN
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86wyp
86wyp


Adventuring Hero
posted March 30, 2007 11:55 PM

Quote:
You can see the results by voting or clicking the results button on the first post in this thread.


I voted for academy, but can't click the results button.

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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted March 31, 2007 12:31 AM

Poll Results:
10 votes (27%)
Academy

5 votes (14%)
Dungeon

7 votes (19%)
Haven

3 votes (8%)
Inferno

3 votes (8%)
Necromancer

5 votes (14%)
Fortress

4 votes (11%)
Sylvan

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feluniozbunio
feluniozbunio


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Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2007 01:43 AM

In my opinion Necro are pitiful after last patch.
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PhoenixReborn
PhoenixReborn


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Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted March 31, 2007 04:52 AM

Another interesting question is which faction does the a.i. use the best?  Yesterday I beat Haven fairly easily with Dungeon.  But today I got steamrolled by Fortress when I was Haven, it wasn't even close.  Hard difficulty for both, duel maps.
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ChaosDragon
ChaosDragon


Famous Hero
posted April 01, 2007 05:41 PM

vote for academy, they have those crazy MMR tactics

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