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Elvin
Elvin


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posted July 22, 2007 07:36 PM

Thanks Geny. Here it is.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 22, 2007 09:20 PM bonus applied.
Edited by Geny at 21:59, 25 Jul 2007.

Right here goes:

- Don't know if this was mentioned, but when Arcane Crystal gets destroyed it damages all surrounding units.

- Looks like I was right. The ability to "spoil" enemy magic is learnt seperately for each magic school.

- The battle cries do require mana.

- One of the battle cries gives the ability to kill a few creatures in your own army, after that the rest of the stack will become more efficient. (that's the part that elvin couldn't figure out)

- Unless it's mentioned just as an example, the orc-warriors will get double damage after reaching their first rage limit and bonus to HP and attack after reaching the second rage limit. But if they'll just stand around, they'll lose the bonuses.

- An orc building called "Piles from our enemies" (that will look like a pile of war trophies, demon bones etc.) will raise the initial rage level of units in battle. The more "piles" the better.

- Amongst the adventure map buildings, there is a "Memory Mentor" which will allow a hero to "forget" one of his skills! (no longer do we need to fear the useless witch huts)

- (especially for nickkk, although I know it's been mentioned before) The initiative of the orc units will be moderate, but the attack will be very developed.

Line-up (most of it has been said here before, but I'll post it anyway for those who might have missed it):

-When the goblins are hit (even by a retal.) they will try to run as far as possible. When their numbers are down to a quarter of their initial numbers they will change sides. Goblin-shaman might spoil a spell cast by enemy hero or unit. Goblin-trapper can lay invisible traps.

- Centaur Nomads run away before they retaliate, but deal half damage. Centaur Maroders don't get a penalty when shooting from zero range (I still can't understand whether they mean No Melee Penalty or not).

- One of the Orc-warrior's upgrades has a chance to take a hit instead of an adjacent ally, and his retaliation will be 1.5 times stronger.

- Shamans can cast Haste and Slow and sacrifice goblins to replenish mana. One of the upgrades can curse an enemy in melee attack with Curse, Slow, Weakness or Disrupting Ray. (does that mean they will be able to use ranged attack as well?)

- Orc chieftain raises the initiative of allied units by 1.

- One of the upgrades is a blind pao kai who is immune to blindness. Replenishes health by eating dead bodies and electrifies all adjacent enemies splitting the damage equally between targets.

- Cyclopses are strong melee fighters who can demolish walls (so they can do it without boulders I guess). Gladly eat goblins to replenish health. One of the upgrades can throw goblins at enemies becoming a powerful ranged unit. The other upgrade strikes enemies with an eye beam, he hits multiple targets (the shape isn't specified) and decreases Luck on impact.


Some alt. upgrade points:

- In the description of the Sharpshooter they mention ignoring 75% of target's defense and the chance to push it back one tile, but not the No Range Penalty.

- Treant Anger (transfers half of the defence to offence, adds +2 to initiative and loses bind) is calculated after the addition of the stats from the hero.

- Rainbow Sapphire Dragon's attack will be random not only in the number of tiles, but also in their shape.

Feel free to ask for clarification.
Enjoy.
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Cepheus
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posted July 22, 2007 09:36 PM

Entangles enemies, eh?  Sounds cool, especially for sieges.  Thanks.

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Elvin
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posted July 23, 2007 12:47 AM

Congratulations for our new promising hero! Good work Geny!
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Asheron
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posted July 23, 2007 01:27 AM

OMFG Elvin when did you become legendary?
Sorry for off-topic
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Elvin
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posted July 23, 2007 01:29 AM

Lol I've been for some time Asheron. Posts accumulate
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posted July 23, 2007 06:53 AM

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OMFG Elvin when did you become legendary?


I know, everyone is growing up!
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HEBPEME
HEBPEME


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I have TotE now!
posted July 23, 2007 11:40 AM


So many new informations - great!

I was waiting for some clarifications and now they are here.
I think the Orc faction is gonna be incredible! I always prefered
might factions over magic and now i know who i am playing with from
september
Anyways, thx guys for a bunch of info. I do have few questions however:

I think i read before in this same thread, that in TotE there will be fog of war same as in HoMM 4 . This would so much improve the game ! Can anybody cofirm this?

The other thing is about renegades. As far as i understand, nobody officially confirmed that they are Haven alts, right? I mean, they are tough and some of them are great, but i would prefer some new(old) units definatelly. I miss crusader, pikeman, ...

Also, i am under impression that the chieftain is going to be the most powerfull and most useful tier 5 unit !

Later guys

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Elvin
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posted July 23, 2007 12:06 PM

First time I hear about FoW and I sincerely doubt it, that would alter H5 gameplay a lot and would cause dissent among the fans. As for the renegades they are MOST probably in but not as they were in HoF. They will have the same models yes but abilities and spells will be different.
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HEBPEME
HEBPEME


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I have TotE now!
posted July 23, 2007 12:55 PM
Edited by HEBPEME at 12:56, 23 Jul 2007.

I am sure i read it somewhere about the FOW. Maybe even in this same thread near the begining. Personally, i think it would be a good thing but not a crucial addition.
As for the renegades, of course that's better than leaving them be this way but still too bad we won't see some other units in Haven line up in HoMM 5.

Also, it would be very stupid to leave the angel alt upgrade name "fallen angel" as that beeing should belong to inferno (lucifer) and not to haven (i know haven is not heaven, i am just speaking faction and logic wise).

But of course, this is not so important. Let them just work on balancing the new faction so that we don't need several patches in
order to get a playable game. Somehow, i have this feeling that there
is going to be so many threads named "orcs imba, orcs insanely overpowered" and so on ))

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Elvin
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posted July 23, 2007 01:01 PM

You mean more than each faction already has? But that mostly depends on map size, if it is rich and how far into the game we are.
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alcibiades
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posted July 23, 2007 01:07 PM

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I am sure i read it somewhere about the FOW. Maybe even in this same thread near the begining. Personally, i think it would be a good thing but not a crucial addition.
As for the renegades, of course that's better than leaving them be this way but still too bad we won't see some other units in Haven line up in HoMM 5.

Also, it would be very stupid to leave the angel alt upgrade name "fallen angel" as that beeing should belong to inferno (lucifer) and not to haven (i know haven is not heaven, i am just speaking faction and logic wise).


There has been mention of the FOW, but even though I can't find the exact reference, I remember distinctly that it will not be back. It was one of the first interviews.

As for the Haven Alternates, they haven't been officially announced, but we know with great certainty that they will use the Renegade models, and some of the also the Renegade names, whereas some will have changed names and abilities. Thus, Fallen Angel will now be Blood Angel and will be a caster. You will find the currently known information in the masterpost of this thread, near the bottom is the section on Haven alternates.
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Cepheus
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posted July 23, 2007 01:15 PM

I do hope the Renegades become rebalanced, but I dislike the name changes.  Blood Angel?  What the heck is that, some sort of heavenly vampire?  I prefer the name Fallen Angel, sounds far more poetic.

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lichie_lich
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posted July 23, 2007 02:00 PM

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I do hope the Renegades become rebalanced, but I dislike the name changes.  Blood Angel?  What the heck is that, some sort of heavenly vampire?  I prefer the name Fallen Angel, sounds far more poetic.


...or 'Avenging Angel' may sound more appropriate for a non-evil version of the fallen angel. Given their divine vengeance spell skill I got the impression that they are more of an overzealous version of a good angel  rather than a full-on fallen one.
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HEBPEME
HEBPEME


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I have TotE now!
posted July 23, 2007 02:10 PM

@ Elvin:

Even more than for other factions so far Of course, all imba discussions are based on the things you stated PLUS luck, which plays
a very important role (in terms of offered skills, perks, arties that you find, armies that join you, etc.)

@alcibiades:

Thx for the info. By the way, blood angel doesn't sound that bad. Actualy it sounds a bit scary

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Doomforge
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posted July 23, 2007 02:26 PM

cyclopes throwing goblins, hahah, hilarious!

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nickkkk
nickkkk


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Necro fan since 1988
posted July 23, 2007 03:01 PM

After all these infos all there is to wait for before the big launch, is their stats. Their abilities,seem to have in my opinion + over the other races, I hope their stats won't be to small, of course we all know that the damage won't be small. I mean c'mon, htey are barbarians.

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Daystar
Daystar


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Back from the Dead
posted July 23, 2007 03:16 PM

Avenging Angel sounds really good, and of course Seraph is an option.


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Cepheus
Cepheus


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posted July 23, 2007 03:17 PM

Better than Blood Angel, anyway.

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mvassilev
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posted July 23, 2007 03:35 PM

Yeah, because having a Blood Angel is like having a Rainbow Devil.
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