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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted September 12, 2007 12:50 PM |
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So whats new everyone 
This thread always surprises me. So little confirmed information and so many speculations  Not that i would mind speculation but when i think of "new" information only alternatives, orc line up and some barb skills comes in mind
*goes back to read the damn long thread*
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 12, 2007 12:55 PM |
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Hey Homer is back  You owe me a game when TotE is out! Anyways the thread is progressing even with little info and thankfully not too much spam. Btw I have a hunch phinex knows what he's talking about and he probably more than he's letting on 
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 12, 2007 01:15 PM |
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Gha!!! It causes me to go slightly more crazy than before, this not knowing. I think I'll move to france and sit outside Ubi's door with a little cap saying "Leaks for the poor?"
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted September 12, 2007 01:36 PM |
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Btw I have a hunch phinex knows what he's talking about and he probably more than he's letting on
Assuming you're right...
Than there's no harm in asking him a few questions 
Where does Kujin fit in the storyline? Zehir? Raelag?
any more info on the campaigns?
orcs stats?
nerfed renegades stats?
who is your opponent in the final battle? Biara, the demon Sovereign?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 12, 2007 01:46 PM |
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Considering Phinex said
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Untamed Cyclop has higher attack/damage than BloodeyedCyclop,but lower defense/initiative/speed
Both them can eat and throw goblin
I'm pretty sure he has allready played/tested the game so he'll probably know what he's talking about (eventhough I still can't belive the Quroc "I am your Fater, Gotai" thing...)
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Where does Kujin fit in the storyline? Zehir? Raelag?
I just guess that Zehir simply will want to make up for some things in the past and of course they have an common enemy so I don't think its too difficult to include Zehir.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted September 12, 2007 01:52 PM |
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maybe, but somehow I think he has a different agenda...maybe demon control (the wizards have done some nasty experiments in the past)
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 12, 2007 03:52 PM |
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Yeah but don't you think Zehir is one of the "good" guys? I actually like him quite a bit because he is so extrovagant, funny and has a charme of his own (he is not super-good like Findan and Godric nor mysterious like Realag.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 12, 2007 04:12 PM |
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Yes, last time he went out of his way just to help the others and was willing to risk the fate of the world to save Isabel who he did not even know well. He's a good guy, I doubt he has any agendas.
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Gil-galad
Known Hero
High King of Noldor
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posted September 12, 2007 05:56 PM |
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So Gotai is Quroq's son? Well it might fit. Quroq is the hero who assembles the orcs and make they fight against their masters. He frees the enslaved orcs in the intro campaign. Gotai is his son, and he finish his father's wish of revenge since his father was killed. After all he is the orc hero we see the most in the trailer.
You know what? It reminds me of the ancient macedons. Philip conquered Greece and then someone assassinate him. His son Alexander then finish his father's dream of conquering the Persian Empire
There is somthing i wonder about: will the final battle be against Horncrest and Biara, or will it be against the Soverign in Sheog? Perhaps Biara escapes Horncrest and flee to Sheog, and the heroes follow her to seek revenge and end the war once and for all?
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
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posted September 12, 2007 06:04 PM |
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Ism't Gotai a female orc
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted September 12, 2007 06:33 PM |
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Quroq is the main character. Gotai looks way older then Quroq, he is just a friend, Kujin is the female
And I guess there will be a fight against the Soverign - but he will only be enslaved, that you will know if you play DM. So I guess main enemy would be Biara . And the soverign is just a guest boss
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 12, 2007 07:46 PM |
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It would make little sense to fight the sovereign, he's comfortably sitting in Sheogh and cannot get out. Why would any of the heroes go there? If they did they'd either have to lose which would be a poor ending or kill him which does not happen.
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HartZa
Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
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posted September 12, 2007 09:25 PM |
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Agrael=Raelag.Same person
ok thanks. I was in Academy campaing mission 2 but then I had to reinstall XP and therefore lost my saves . And didnt want to restart from begin so I just leave it and jumped to hammers of fate. I do have seen the end movie but havent played Campaing 6 missions 3,4,5,6.
Raelag somehow got assimilated in the Demonic horde. How is unclear (if someone has info on it, I wouldn't mind reading up on it ). Originally, however, he was a Dark Elf - i.e., a Dungeon Lord. This is also the reason why his Hero model is so totally different from the "normal" Demon Lords. As a Demon Lord, he uses the name Agrael.
As an aside, in mission 4 of the Demon Campaign of the original game where Agrael has to reach the city of Erewel, Agrael encounters a Shadow Dragon (incorrectly depicted as a Spectral Dragon in the cutscene!) who sends him on a quest to collect 100 Elven Archers. During the intermission, Agrael mentions how the Shadow Dragon "no longer controls him" - in other words, he no longer obeys the words of the Shadow Dragon Matriarch, the one who lords over the Dark Elves.
Once Agrael reached Tieru, Tieru cleansed him and removed any and all Demonic links that kept Agrael chained to the Demon Sovereign. When Tieru did so, Agrael became Raelag again, and returned to his Dark Elf roots. It did not change his love for Isabel, however.
ok thank you for information. a way better option to find out than restart the whole campaing
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 12, 2007 10:19 PM |
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Yeah, Biara is probobally the Uberboss.
Do you think we'll meet Sareth at all?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 12, 2007 10:23 PM |
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He should be a baby, what's the point? Either the sovereign keeps it or it was given to demon cultists, maybe the ones Raelag is looking for? Since we haven't heard about him either we'll learn of what happened to him or we'll see him in H6.
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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted September 12, 2007 10:51 PM |
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Maybe as an artifact like Freyda in the previous campaigns
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted September 12, 2007 11:05 PM |
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Shadow Dragon (incorrectly depicted as a Spectral Dragon in the cutscene!) who sends him on a quest to collect 100 Elven Archers.
Emm its right that it is spectral dragon, since its the black undead one with green eyes, shadow dragon are the unupg grey one from Dungeon.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 12, 2007 11:18 PM |
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Shadow Dragon (incorrectly depicted as a Spectral Dragon in the cutscene!) who sends him on a quest to collect 100 Elven Archers.
Emm its right that it is spectral dragon, since its the black undead one with green eyes, shadow dragon are the unupg grey one from Dungeon.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean; the name given to the Dragon when it is speaking is "Shadow Dragon". Furthermore, Agrael is referring to his former Dark Elf life when he says that the Dragon no longer controls him. I think Nival made a mistake and placed a Spectral Dragon in the cutscene, not a Shadow Dragon. After all, Spectral Dragons are Undead and have nothing to do with the Dark Elves.
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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted September 13, 2007 08:30 AM |
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Btw I have a hunch phinex knows what he's talking about and he probably more than he's letting on
Assuming you're right...
Than there's no harm in asking him a few questions
Where does Kujin fit in the storyline? Zehir? Raelag?
any more info on the campaigns?
orcs stats?
nerfed renegades stats?
who is your opponent in the final battle? Biara, the demon Sovereign?
Zehir is a important role.Many heroes in HOF will appear,include Freyda,Wolfstan and Hangvul,but Raelag seems not.
Orcs stats seems terrible except cyclops.Cyclops's hp are almost as well as Magma Dragon.Orcs have less hp and high int.But I don;t know if them will change in the formal edition.
At last,I promise Kujin isn't Biara
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted September 13, 2007 10:44 AM |
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thanks for the info
if the orc troops have stats that low, than they are very easy creeps;only orc heroes can make them usefull with blood rage
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