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HartZa
Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
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posted September 17, 2007 07:34 PM |
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To be honest, I'm more concerned about changing abilities of the original creatures. Paladins immune to frenzy sounds scary enough, they are powerful without it and one of the only counters would be removed... It would make more sense if they added some features to underpowered specials (like enraged).
agreed about paladins immune to frenzy section. ISNT haven imbalanced enough? They have cleansing they have lay hands which allready perfectly counters dark magic(necros no chance) and they have a best damagedealer unit in game and what will nival do? MAKE THEM evenmore imbalanced!! what´s the point? It´s like giving wraith¨s deadly strike and double strike.  . Well this information isn´t confirmed officially yet thank god.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2007 07:36 PM |
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Sure but if you make a big stack of them dark can pwn your sorry hide, especially with inferno that will drain your mana in 1-2 turns. You depend on them for better or worse.
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Beowolf
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 17, 2007 07:41 PM |
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Edited by Beowolf at 19:44, 17 Sep 2007.
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Sure but if you make a big stack of them dark can pwn your sorry hide, especially with inferno that will drain your mana in 1-2 turns. You depend on them for better or worse.
Thats true, but haven players usually (if not always) make 2 stacks (either 2 of equal number + training or one small just for lay hands). Mana draining is effective against knights but only inferno has it. Plus there is magical immunity to wipe of any nasty dark spells.
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted September 17, 2007 08:44 PM |
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A small word of advice: you shouldn't judge the balance without taking into account all the new alternate creatures. And for a Paladin able to dispel curses, it's only natural that they are immune to Frenzy. You can still blind them, hypnotize them, seduce them...
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted September 17, 2007 08:51 PM |
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And muppeteer them  but shhh Nival may notice this and make them immune to every counter 
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dschingi
Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
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posted September 17, 2007 08:59 PM |
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No i think immunity to frenzy is ok. What I don't like so much is that Paladins are so "fixed" on countering Dark Magic with their abilities, they have no other advantages compared to the Champion. So I guess it will be Paladin against Dark and Champion against everything else... not much of a strategic decision. On the other hand that's probably the way with most of the upgrades, maybe I shouldn't be complaining 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2007 09:04 PM |
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The basic rule seems to be identical stats with different abilities or a choice between offensive/defensive.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted September 17, 2007 09:09 PM |
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Well, it's not like there's any better sort of pattern to go for...
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted September 17, 2007 10:08 PM |
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Well it would have been more daring to completely change the function of a creature.
For example the skeleton can go 1. Shooter 2. Strong walker but that is relatively rare in the alternates. For example why doesn't the banshee get flying? I'd take a weaker banshee for flying function...etc.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 17, 2007 10:13 PM |
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Agreed.
I'm sorry I missed whatever it was, anyone happen to save the pictures? If so, post them plz.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2007 10:15 PM |
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The link was removed for a reason daystar. We don't want to cause any trouble to evilp.
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Xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 17, 2007 10:34 PM |
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Damn
How could i miss a such thing?
/hate school
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 17, 2007 10:59 PM |
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Seriously, guys, I have seen the information, and it's not that exciting. It contained the abilities for all creatures, which we knew for all the alternatives with exception of one or two Haven units, and which have been changed for only a very few of the old units, as has already been discussed here by now. And then it contained the stats which might or might not be the final numbers for the Orcs units - no big deal. These numbers tell us next to nothing on their own. So don't phret or make a huge fuzz about having missed them. There weren't even any further ability descriptions of the new units.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 18, 2007 02:51 AM |
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Was the Rainbow Dragon still the Rainbow Dragon, or did they change it?
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
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posted September 18, 2007 06:54 AM |
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I've moticed that witvh have sacrifice goblin,and haq the other upgrade have hexing atack
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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted September 18, 2007 11:10 AM |
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O,the data of creatures were leaked.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted September 18, 2007 12:37 PM |
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Yeah but it was only from a Demo version... so its not sure if the stats will be final or not.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted September 18, 2007 01:59 PM |
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do anywhere else in europe has TotE releasing day 21.09.2007?
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Visz
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 18, 2007 02:55 PM |
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Bol.com still gives 20.09...
(In the Netherlands)
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted September 18, 2007 03:33 PM |
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Was the Rainbow Dragon still the Rainbow Dragon, or did they change it?
I guess and hopes! That they will keep it Sapphire Dragon. Rainbow Dragon, not even dosent it look like a rainbow dragon, it should have all the colors in the rainbow! But it also makes it...eh too childish..
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