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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 03:09 PM |
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Masterpost updated with the demo changes. With the new AoH updates it makes little sense to add screenies from the demo, it's crowded enough already 
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted September 29, 2007 03:49 PM |
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Let someone post loading screen pic please
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 03:57 PM |
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OMG we have termites This thread is being devoured 
Err sure. Here's the grail in the meantime.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 29, 2007 04:06 PM |
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Edited by Daystar at 16:06, 29 Sep 2007.
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How exactly is luck a skill?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 04:09 PM |
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Btw I think I saw 50 vermin suck 7 mana about 3 times. I might be mistaken but can someone take a look? AoH says 0.5 mana per stack so I got confused a bit. Maybe they only drain after another friendly unit has cast a spell?
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Visz
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 29, 2007 04:16 PM |
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No.. I had a Pit Fiend with 25/10 mana.. Before he had casted any spell, or even had a turn.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted September 29, 2007 04:17 PM |
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It seems to be point 5. Perhaps they only drain as much as is needed.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 29, 2007 04:25 PM |
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I had 300+ Vermin suck only 46 mana or so. Definately not 50%. It could be that they suck 50% of the enemy's total mana, not sure. I'll take closer look ...
Anyway, it's a triggered ability, not an automatic once-per-combat ability. That does change the dynamics as well.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 04:28 PM |
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For the record the 50 vermin drained 7/70+ mana of my Agrael. So, the mana the pit fiends gain remain until the next battle? Probably not but I'd like to know if anyone tried it.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted September 29, 2007 04:35 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 16:37, 29 Sep 2007.
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Ok, I've seen where the 0.5 comes from. That's how much the Vermin drain with respect to the Familairs. In other words, Vermin drain half of what Familairs do: 12.5% of their stack size in mana. So if you had 50 Vermin, they drained 50 x 0.125 = 6.25 mana. For what I have seen, it's rounded upwards.
The mana drained this way is spread over all caster units in the Hero's army. Excess mana points for casters is lost when the battle ends (as all casters in the Hero's army start with full mana again the next battle).
Edit: By the way, I had 415 Vermin, draining 52 mana. Seeing your Pit Fiends with 72/20 mana is scary ... 
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 29, 2007 04:39 PM |
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I generally think they made good decisions with the changes. Banish was clearly overpowered in late game before. I like the changes to Dark Renewal also.
The addition of free boarding to Snatch is cool, although they should have added it to Navigation instead. Would have made much more sense and provided just the vaguest justification for that skill being there in first place.
Several other Skills and Abilities should have been changed: Estates, Spoils Of War and Recruitement are long overdue for changes as discussed elsewhere, and personally I think bonus XP from Enlightenment could be increased to 10, 20 and 30 %.
Warpath seems like a wicked skill to use vs. AI if it still hoards single-creature caravans outside towns.
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted September 29, 2007 05:13 PM |
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guys, only 11 days to full version man i cant wait. and that should work no need repack files 
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted September 29, 2007 06:32 PM |
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Quote:
not all suck to up lvl 5 there was some good creatures
actually all. Look at their HP. And at some at their damage. It's true the blood rage lifts their stats, but until then they are kind of dum.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted September 29, 2007 06:37 PM |
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Lol, I just figured out that Executioner will be able to do 3 attacks in one turn with Blood Rage lvl3...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 06:45 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 18:46, 29 Sep 2007.
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Take that Alc I was sure he had at least one extra attack but the time I tried it the enemy stack was killed in two attacks
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted September 29, 2007 06:47 PM |
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Well, I didn't say you weren't right ... I just thought it sounded pretty imba. 
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 07:15 PM |
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Not with their hp, no way to resurrect themselves and all the time it takes to reach lvl 3(while you are getting hit too). Not that it will not hurt when they do but if you let them live for that much you are asking for it.
And my tone wasn't serious anyway 
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sfidanza
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted September 29, 2007 10:04 PM |
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Quote:
Anyway better to gather the changes, please notify me if I missed something.
Dark Renewal, Snatch and Erratic mana have not changed: they worked this way in previous versions as well.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 29, 2007 10:13 PM |
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Thanks, I'll correct that. Alc alerted me to the attack skill for rangers being at 6% now. I'm pretty sure it was 2% - I had played them very often recently.
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HartZa
Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
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posted September 29, 2007 11:23 PM |
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The new skill wheel is a great. Not only warlocks where already grazy destructive casters but can now learn Ingite and Cold Death o-ou.
And for necros they still have useless leadership which sucks but ques what? They can learn EMPATHY! I cannot imagine more useless skill for necros than empathy. Creators must seriously stop drinking when deciding which skill they should add
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