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emilsn
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posted April 21, 2007 04:53 PM |
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Fortress alternatives
I see Fortress as the hardest to think about Alternatives, so i tried! .. Check it out:
Defender: Shieldguard or Shieldguardian – Much like the shieldguard these just guard their fellow dwarves, but they have no shieldwall instead they gain more health and 1 more to attack. They are tougher to beat, but have no shieldwall (I fear this is bad balanced)
Spearwielder: Skirmisher or Spear ranger – Still a shooter, but with 6 shots, a little more attack and 1 to imitative. These are suppose to be better shooter and not suppose to cripple creatures.
Bear rider: Blackbear Rider or Blackbear Raider – with less armor, meaning less defense, they gain 1 more in speed and a bit more attack and damage. But they get a nerf in HP and paw strike is out. These are a bit faster but weaker in the defense art!
Brawler: Berserker or Warrior – Being more calm then Berserker these also have immunity to mind control. They have more armor, more health, more speed. These fight within out going crazy, more calm and tougher.
Rune Priest: Rune Patriarch or Rune Monk - Faith booster (nearby troops get bonus to moral) Caster, spells: Endurance, deflect missile. These are not great for attacking but having them near your troops, because of Faith booster! They gain a bit more defence and 5 more HP
Thane: warlord or Stormer – These are faster and more offensive! Still having storm strike, they suffer in defence and health (defence more then Health). These are more offensive then Warlords.
Fire dragon: Magma dragon or Lava dragon – Still having all of its specialities, Magma shields changes to Lava shield, Lava shield only does 30 % and not 40%. They gain 1 more speed, from 5 to 6. Attack goes to 35 and Defence to 35 also. Making it faster and a bit more offensive, but still defensive
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necrorevan
Bad-mannered
Hired Hero
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posted May 04, 2007 04:03 PM |
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Necropolis:
Skeleton --> Skeleton warrior (sure about this one) with better stats and black armor like in Homm 3
Zombies --> Aaah I hate them, I don't care
ghost --> I don't know, maybe a griffin ghost or something
Vampire --> a were-bat with + attack and speed and - defense
Lich --> Lich lord with raise dead spell or maybe a Spider Lich since the Necros worship the Spider Goddess
Wight --> wish it was Dread knight but who am I kidding, probably a Reaper
Bone dragon --> incorporeal dragon or maybe a mix of spider and dragon.
And Blood furie should be blonde 
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dkolb
Promising
Known Hero
Nay Nay and Aslan Protector
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posted May 09, 2007 05:00 PM |
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Edited by dkolb at 06:47, 10 May 2007.
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1.Peasant--> Lazy Bum takes 1gold a day and doesn't fight
2.Archer--> Sniper no range penalty carries huge sniper rifle
3.Footman--> Handyman does work around the castle can repair golems
4.Griffin--> Puffin gains alot of speed but loses lots of strength and size to say the least
5.Priest-->Pentacostl Preacher- powerful unit that handles snakes, has powerful "slain by the spirit" spell. Can be upgraded again into Benny Hinn
6.Cavalier-->Champion: a peasant riding a mule
7.Angel--> Fallen Angel: not evil but can't fly or even get up
Necropolis
1.Skeleton-->Skeleton Juggler throws bones at enemies
2.Zombie--> Corpse: uh well it's a corpse so it just lies there
3.Ghost--> Casper powerful but doesn't damage enemies
4.Vampire-->um... really evil vampire
5.Lich-->rymes but starts with a B, very powerful melee slap attack
6.Wight--> Kite flies around and distacts the enemy
7.Bone Dragon--> Boneless Dragon: A dragon that resembles a pile of jelly
Inferno
1.Imp-->Gimp: good unit but can't move very much
2.Horned demon-->Horny demon: there isn't much to screw down in hell
3.Hell Hound--> Holy Hound: casts prayer
4.Succubi-->Angsty Teenage girl: Shops at Hot Topic and is full of drama
5.Hell charger--> Generic Flaming Horse
6.Pit Fiend-->Pit Nigga Going with this, can also gate KFC chicken to any location in the battlefield
7.Devil-->Fallen Devil exactly as was described before
It's kinda hard to be creative here :X
Dungeon
1.Scout--> Death Dragon of Doom: a substantial upgrade
2.Blood Maiden--> Blood Nun: a very chaste Blood Maiden who dresses conservatively at all times
3.Minotaur-->BDSM minotaur. Is tied, chained and blindfolded
4.Lizard Raider --> Lizard: The Lizard got very tired of his rider one day and so it's just a lizard
5.Hydra--> Shallow Hydra: it is afraid of deep water and swims in kiddie pools
6.Shadow Witch--> Pop star. Has to strut and shake her hips constantly before attacking
7.Shadow Dragon--> skeleton : practical joke by nival
Sylvan
1.Pixie--> a butterfly: more useful/powerful then pixie
2.Battle Dancer--> Flamboyant Dancer: ditches the war paint for a more fabulous approach, very fashion conscious
3.Hunter--> Gatherer
4.Druid--> deer. More specifically the deer head that the druid elder is wearing
5.Unicorn-->Liopleurodon: http://www.filmcow.com/charlietheunicorn.html
6.Treant--> a frickin tree: generates wood
7.Green Dragon--> Tween Dragon: listens to emo music, writes awful poetry
Academy
1.Gremlin-->Kremlin: recruited from st. basils cathedral
2.Stone Garg-->aluminum gargoyle: eco-friendly and light
3.Iron Golem--> Fiberglass Golem: causes all enemies to itch themselves
4.Mage-->Paige: doesn't know much about magic
5.Djinn-->Shazzan
6.Rakasha Rani-->Aslan: lion that is similiar to the pheonix as it comes back to life, also a flying unit
7.Colossi-->Abstract Metal Statue
edit: thanks for the qp!!!!
I'll try to get fortress done 
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Card_Ximinez
Famous Hero
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posted May 09, 2007 07:03 PM |
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2.Blood Maiden--> Blood Nun: a very chaste Blood Maiden who dresses conservatively at all times
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 11, 2007 09:29 PM |
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 11, 2007 09:49 PM |
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I have some ideas for the dungeon
(By the way this is serious no jokes)
LV. 1 Scout-->Assilant, No ranged attack but is faster and can disappear from the enemy's sight for a few turns every battle
LV. 2 Blood Maiden--> Dark Bladist, eliminate the no retaliation but can attack multiple enemies
LV. 3 Minotaur--> Minotaur Gladiator, Can do extra damage upon his attack his secound attack, in other words he gets really mad
LV. 4 Dark Rider--> Skull Raider, Has the charge ability but doesn't have lizard bite
LV. 5 Hydra--> Emporer Hydra, Has only 6 heads but they all have venomous fangs
LV. 6 Shadow Witch--> Shadow Priestess, they are the priestesses to Mallsala, anyway they have fewer shots but can cast destructive spells
LV. 7 Shadow Dragon--> Pitch-Shadow Dragon, Only resistent to magic not immune and they curse their enemy upon attack (Malssala's favorite childran so she helps them)
So what do you guys think?
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted May 12, 2007 12:00 AM |
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LV. 1 Scout-->Assilant, No ranged attack but is faster and can disappear from the enemy's sight for a few turns every battle
LV. 2 Blood Maiden--> Dark Bladist, eliminate the no retaliation but can attack multiple enemies
LV. 7 Shadow Dragon--> Pitch-Shadow Dragon, Only resistent to magic not immune and they curse their enemy upon attack (Malssala's favorite childran so she helps them)
So what do you guys think?
You have new ideas i must say... Good, a imaginative person over me here.. good ...
But Lvl 1 ... Disappears - Not fun! They would be irritating! ,, A bit overpowered in a weak way
Lvl 2. With their High att, that would be evil. But they also have low def. which means, without retaliatation they get slaugheted in first hit, then move on to next creature, again getting their head removed - That is actully a good idea that is just too weak...  With no retaliatation they would be overpowered
Lvl 7? aint this the living version of: Spectral dragon? just with resisten to magic? - And the name is a bit ...
Else great ideas
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
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I may not follow. Just walk
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 12, 2007 12:26 AM |
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Quote:
Quote:
LV. 1 Scout-->Assilant, No ranged attack but is faster and can disappear from the enemy's sight for a few turns every battle
LV. 2 Blood Maiden--> Dark Bladist, eliminate the no retaliation but can attack multiple enemies
LV. 7 Shadow Dragon--> Pitch-Shadow Dragon, Only resistent to magic not immune and they curse their enemy upon attack (Malssala's favorite childran so she helps them)
So what do you guys think?
You have new ideas i must say... Good, a imaginative person over me here.. good ...
But Lvl 1 ... Disappears - Not fun! They would be irritating! ,, A bit overpowered in a weak way
Lvl 2. With their High att, that would be evil. But they also have low def. which means, without retaliatation they get slaugheted in first hit, then move on to next creature, again getting their head removed - That is actully a good idea that is just too weak... With no retaliatation they would be overpowered
Lvl 7? aint this the living version of: Spectral dragon? just with resisten to magic? - And the name is a bit ...
Else great ideas
Well perhaps the pitch-shadow dragon could have magic mirror insted of resistance and perhaps he could be a darkness dragon
The dark bladists could have increased defense and hp. and only one target can retaliate proably the targeted one
also perhaps the assilant could have reduced hp?
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 12, 2007 02:56 PM |
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Here are my ideas for the other towns
Academy:
LV. 1 Gremlin--> Gremlin Sabatoger, Can't repair but instead does extra damage to mechanical creatures and war machines as well as lowers their stats
LV. 2 Gargoyle--> Miral Gargoyle, No resistances but instead a quarter af the damage is reflected back
LV. 3 Golem--> Gold Golem, Faster with no unlimited retaliation also gives you gold after battle depending on how many were killed
LV. 4 Mage--> Battle mage, no new spells but they can do extra damage with magical attack
LV. 5 Dijin--> Dijin Mystic, now they can also cast regular spells but theese ones take mana to use
LV. 6 Rakasha--> Rakasha lord, Can't dash but they have even more arms thus allowing them to take on multiple foes
LV. 7 Collosi--> Thunder giant, no ranged attack but better melee attack and they have call lightning
Sylvan:
LV. 1 pixie--> Dryad, Casts slow instead of Clensing (They call on those thorns that appear when you cast slow) also more tankish
LV. 2 Blade Dancer--> Battle Dancer, Unlimited retaliation but can't hit as many targets
LV. 3 Hunter--> Grand Hunter, Paralyzes targets instead of stuns them making it so they can't retaliate for a while
LV. 4 Druid--> Arch Druid, more spells but less powerful attack
LV. 5 Unicorn--> Battle unicorn, Better attack and Damage but no aura of magic resistance
LV. 6 Treant--> Oak Treant Can't take roots but stronger and faster
LV. 7 Green Dragon--> Gold Dragon, Aura of Sylanna Which heals surronding units and boosts morale but has no Acid Breath
Fortress:
LV. 1 Defender-->Guardian, much higher defence and Hitpoints but no shield wall (good idea but it never seemed to fit in)
LV. 2 Spear Wielder--> Spear grappeler, can't wound enemies but more shots and can scale castle walls
LV. 3 Bear Rider--> Grizzly Raider, Higher atk and damage but not armored and a little less Hit points
LV. 4 Brawler--> Brawler Fighter, No berzerker rage but higher Atk. and has wound ability
LV. 5 Rune Priest--> Rune Bishop, Replace Deflect Missles with Fireball. And has more mana
LV. 6 Thane--> Chieftan, No Thunderbolt but instead has call lightning
LV. 7 Lava Dragon--> Obsidion Dragon, Higher Defence And does fire damage upon normal attack but no Magma shield just fire shield
Haven:
LV. 1 Peasent--> Millitia, No Bash but has higher Attack and Dammage
LV. 2 Archer--> Long-Bow Man, Still has tri-shot as well as No Ranged Penalty but lower attack
LV. 3 Footman--> Man-At-Arms, Eliminate shield bash but now has Double attack like minataurs
LV. 4 Griffin--> Royal Griffin, Armored and has swoop instead of Battle Dive which happens imidiatly and does less damage
LV. 5 Priest--> Monk,Can heal surronding units but has a melee penalty
LV. 6 Cavalier--> Crusader, No lay hands but instead can do Holy smite which targets an Undead or Demonic creature and does a Reasonable amount of damage
LV. 7 Angel--> Prince of Elrath, Has aura of Blessing so surrounding units Have Divine Strenght cast on them, but have a less powerful resurection
(From here all I have are the names no abilities yet)
Necropolis:
LV. 1 Skeleton--> Skeleton Warrior
LV. 2 Zombie--> Ghoul
LV. 3 Ghosts--> Shades
LV. 4 Vampire--> Vampire Knight
LV. 5 Lich--> Demi-Lich
LV. 6 Wight--> Reaper
LV 7. Bone Dragon--> Necro-Dragon
Inferno:
LV. 1 Imp--> Magog, (Going to be a shooter)
LV. 2 Horned Demon--> Horned Bane
LV. 3 Hell Hond--> Worg
LV. 4 Succubus--> Succubus Matrich, (Going to also be a flyer)
LV. 5 Hell Charger--> Dreadmare
LV. 6 Pit Fiend--> Pit Ravager
LV. 7 Devil--> Devil king, (orignally was going to be devil duke but then he would have to be blue)
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nickkkk
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Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 13, 2007 09:44 AM |
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Here are my ideas for the other towns
Devil- Antichrist
Hell Charger- Hell Stallion
lich- power lich
what's a bane?
bone dragon- ghost dragon
Angel--> Prince of Elrath good name but a bit too long
Priest--> zelot because it already exists
cavalier- champion
footman- crusader
lava dragon- rune dragon
thane- warlord
druid- druid priest I think goes better
colossus- lord of thunder
djinn- master djinn
The rest seem prety good to me
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 13, 2007 09:48 AM |
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I have some ideas for the dungeon
(By the way this is serious no jokes)
So what do you guys think?
blood maiden- harpy, introduce flying, the best option.
minotaur- king minotaur
chaos hydra instead of emporer hydra
darkness dragon goes better
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 13, 2007 09:53 AM |
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Hey guys, want to play a stupid game?
Sylvan
1.Pixie-->another wierd tree-hugging butterfly-like thingy. Who knows what it might be.
2.Battle Dancer--> Andrev Golota. Beats only level 1-2 creatures, runs away from the combat grid if there's a level 6-7 creature around.
3.Hunter-->Another Hunter. One shot, but with some kind of special.
4.Druid--> Battle Druid, no spells, better at combat.
5.Unicorn-->War unicorn, can't blind and has no antimagic aura, but stronger and with some kind of melee special.
6.Treant-->battle treant. Offensive treant, oh noes!
7.Green Dragon--> Gold dragon, reduced initiative, but with better stats.
lvl 1- forest soul
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 13, 2007 12:57 PM |
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Quote:
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I have some ideas for the dungeon
(By the way this is serious no jokes)
So what do you guys think?
blood maiden- harpy, introduce flying, the best option.
minotaur- king minotaur
chaos hydra instead of emporer hydra
darkness dragon goes better
Sorry but it would be impossible to make blood Maidens into Harpies because while Blood Maidens are Dark Elves and Harpies are a diffrent race and so far it appears that no unit turns into a diffrent race when they upgrade
The minotaur kings unfortunatly could also not happen because as we all know the minotaurs are slaves to the Dark Elves so they promote them to jobs slaves may get such as Gladiators but proably they will not make them royalty unless one became a living legend but then they would more likly make it a hero
However I suppose the Chaos Hydra could replace Emporer Hydra
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 13, 2007 01:02 PM |
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Sorry but it would be impossible to make blood Maidens into Harpies because while Blood Maidens are Dark Elves and Harpies are a diffrent race and so far it appears that no unit turns into a diffrent race when they upgrade
You've got a better idea for blood maiden? Because the one you mentioned doesn't sound very interesting. No ofence. I said harpy thinking at the H3 dungeon lvl 2 army.
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 13, 2007 01:18 PM |
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Devil- Antichrist
what's a bane?
Angel--> Prince of Elrath good name but a bit too long
Priest--> zelot because it already exists
cavalier- champion
footman- crusader
thane- warlord
druid- druid priest I think goes better
1.Antichrist? um we're not on Earth with the christan bible so Antielrath would actually make sense but that doesn't sound very good if you get me a diffrent idea tell me
2. A bane is a disaster, a plague, a disease, or an evil omen don't you read Batman?
3.Well how about an Angel Prince?
4. and 5. Those have already been taken by the renagades and they thought and trademarked those so if we copy them a fallen angel shall come and destroy us all
6. The term Crusader sounds too high for a lv. 3 unit plus since their other upgrade is a squire it should be fitting that they are all knights in training
7. I thought Warlords were their regular upgrades go and check creatures to find out for sure
8. Well Druids are priests so that would be redundant
Everything else I suppose would work
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ChironCentaur
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posted May 13, 2007 01:22 PM |
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You've got a better idea for blood maiden? Because the one you mentioned doesn't sound very interesting. No ofence. I said harpy thinking at the H3 dungeon lvl 2 army.
Well just name three reasons that Dark Bladist isn't a good idea and I'll change it okay how's that?
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted May 13, 2007 01:46 PM |
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Well just name three reasons that Dark Bladist isn't a good idea and I'll change it okay how's that?
1. Blood Fury w/o No Retaliation will perish after first hit, so it will never be an appealing alternative to the existing unit.
2. There are a lot of units that attack several targets, would be nice to see something more original.
3. Dungeon already has the Hydra with these exact characteristics.
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What will happen now?
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted May 13, 2007 02:46 PM |
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1.Antichrist? um we're not on Earth with the christan bible so Antielrath would actually make sense but that doesn't sound very good if you get me a diffrent idea tell me
Exactly. Homm3 WoG faced the same problem: The lvl8 inferno unit was named antichrist at first, but renamed to Hell Baron later due the world of HoMM not being related to Christ 
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nickkkk
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Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 13, 2007 03:17 PM |
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7. I thought Warlords were their regular upgrades go and check creatures to find out for sure
Well I seen that they are called Storm lord in some places.
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ChironCentaur
Hired Hero
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posted May 13, 2007 06:29 PM |
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Well just name three reasons that Dark Bladist isn't a good idea and I'll change it okay how's that?
1. Blood Fury w/o No Retaliation will perish after first hit, so it will never be an appealing alternative to the existing unit.
2. There are a lot of units that attack several targets, would be nice to see something more original.
3. Dungeon already has the Hydra with these exact characteristics.
Actully I asked for 3 things wrong with the name but what if they have cleave, higher defence and hitpoints but w/o no Retaliation?
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