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Thread: Lets talk Police
Aculias
Aculias


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posted April 18, 2007 04:28 PM

Lets talk Police

COnsis made some points about the police.
Lets talk about what people think about the police.
Personally yea i think they are thier own gang.
They can get away with anything.
They break the rules.
Some are prejudice.
SOme have nothing better to do then Harrass you.
There are way too many cops.
If you look suspicious, they will pull you over.

Shoot my best friend & I decided to take a walk on Saturday for excercise & go to Breakfast.
Cop pulls us over for NO APEARANT reason.
Asking us where were going, where we live,who we were,ID's & the works.
He was being nice about it but yea he wanted to find some possible way to get us arrested but he couldnt find none.
F the police for me.

My other best friend got arrested because he had a warrant we knew nothing about.
We find out he tresspassed in his X GF's house on a certain date.
IMPOSSIBLE!
He was with me in a total dif city doing other stuff.
Of course women take any kind of man vs woman thing out here dead serious.
Threw his butt in jail without even ltting him get a word in.

Screw the police, I have not met one Legit cop yet.
DOnt let me get started on women cops who treat men like total garbage who thinks all men degrade them.

Plus many abuse thier powers as cops with drugs.

I am sure theres more but I cant think of it at the sec since I got to work soon.

Lets see what you think if you agree or not Jake.
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william
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posted April 18, 2007 04:32 PM
Edited by william at 16:34, 18 Apr 2007.

Well some of them abuse their power, because they think they can get away with it, and since they are enforcers of the law, people will not think that they are doing anything wrong, and they are in fact what I like to call 'Corrupt Cops', or 'Corrupt Police', or whatever you like to call them.

In the hunt of a criminal, I can bet that Police are probably breaking the laws in trying to catch them, but yet, they do not get in trouble.

Sure, they are trying to catch a bad guy, but they are enforcing the law, yet, why do they break it?

They could still try and catch the bad guy without breaking anything.

And the fact that Police are not always doing their job properly, I mean, they just have a quick look of the area of a possible murder, and then they just go onto another case, and then years later, a research team uncovers the truth and finds out what really happened, well that is just really poor, that is just sad.

You know what I am talking about?

Sure, Police do solve most crimes, and they are making it better for some people, but the fact remains that they are not always their to help, and they sometimes do not do the job properly.

And that is what worries me, the fact that they do not do there job properly, and they should get the sack.

I have watched many shows where they solve crimes and everything, and sometimes I am just amazed at how poorly the police work was.

But the police are doing an alright job with stopping crime, and enforcing the law down here and everything, which is good
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Aculias
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posted April 18, 2007 04:35 PM

They can get away with it, thats why.
They almost threw my brother in jail because they thought he abused his GF.
Reality.
She nailed him while he was driving on the freeway because she was totally DRUNK.
She started throwing a fir tearing 2 doors from the hindges & cutting herself in the process.
Dana had to tell them no & he did nopt do it & all that.

Women have the power to ruin peoples lives 7 they can give a rats crack.

If my brother went to jail.
I couldnt afford to pay for this house by myself.
Screw the police.
They are not the law.
The break the law.
Guilty for Innocent before the court of law
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william
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LummoxLewis
posted April 18, 2007 04:42 PM

Quote:
They can get away with it, thats why.
They almost threw my brother in jail because they thought he abused his GF.
Reality.
She nailed him while he was driving on the freeway because she was totally DRUNK.
She started throwing a fir tearing 2 doors from the hindges & cutting herself in the process.
Dana had to tell them no & he did nopt do it & all that.


Wow, that is just stupid, good thing your brother didn't go to jail.

I have heard it is really bad in there, almost like a different world.

Quote:
If my brother went to jail.
I couldnt afford to pay for this house by myself.
Screw the police.
They are not the law.
The break the law.
Guilty for Innocent before the court of law


Yes, like I said in my previous post, police do break the law at times as well, but they are supposed to be reinforcing it, not breaking it.

If they do break it, they are corrupt, and they shouldn't be on the force, because we don't need police like that, setting a bad example, and teaching us what we are not supposed to be doing.

It is like school, the younger kids get influenced easily by the older kid's.

So if you swear, then the little kids then learn that since the older ones swear, then they can swear to, thus they start swearing, and it could get them into trouble later on.

Or perhaps a younger brother and an older brother.

The younger one will kinda have his older brother as an 'idol', and will sometimes mimic what the older brother does, so if the older brother does something bad, then the younger one might as well.

Now, Police are supposed to be setting an example.

No one messes with the law, or well you shouldn't, because you will go to jail, and people who do mess with it, usually end up in prison.

But sometimes police might 'misunderstand' a situation, and send a totally innocent person to jail, without letting a word in, corrupt if you ask me.

We need a better law system, in which the police, the ones reinforcing it, are NOT breaking it.
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Aculias
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posted April 18, 2007 04:51 PM

Well it's basically our word against thiers.
It's rare we can get any police on a charge.
They have the oower to set us up.
Lie & the works.

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The_Gootch
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posted April 18, 2007 04:58 PM

When it comes to cops, it pays to be white.

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Consis
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posted April 18, 2007 05:28 PM

Can A Tank Catch A Thief ?

Could we please start at the top? Is there anyone willing to entertain the notion of general population percentages? Isn't it true that no matter where you go in the world, any number of people in any group or organization or even not organized, that a percentage of which is composed for crime? Crime is a reality for any group of people is it not? Isn't it one of the things our public servants work to stem with varying degrees? Is it not true that crime, poverty, hunger, pain, suffering, and disease, can never be fully eradicated? Isn't it also true that we as human beings have the ability to change our environment in ways no other living thing can? What if we knew that crime could never fully be eliminated but still gave considerable thought, energy, and resources directed at reducing the number of crime incidents?

I think crime is relative to the scale by which we judge it. Under certain and specified terms, defined by local and respective communities, we have come up with an organization opposed to crime. I'm quite certain that crime can be fought in many ways on many different levels. For example: How wise would it be to send a tank to catch a thief?
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Doomforge
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posted April 18, 2007 05:53 PM
Edited by pandora at 20:50, 18 Apr 2007.

Seeing you guys are mostly from US, I'm not surprised you write such things. I don't know much about police there, but heard a lot of stories about cops abusing their power there.
In poland, it's exactly opposite: The criminals abuse the lack of police's power. Even more pathetic than ******* cops.

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william
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posted April 18, 2007 06:02 PM

I am from Australia, and the police have abused their power here too, and the law system as well.

People getting away with murder, and people being put behind bars for maybe stealing a car.

Murderers getting away with it?

How much more stupid can you get?!?!
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Doomforge
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posted April 18, 2007 06:09 PM

well, here, both the murderer and the jacker will get away with it

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pandora
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posted April 18, 2007 08:59 PM

wow Aculias - when you say things like

Quote:
Women have the power to ruin peoples lives 7 they can give a rats crack.


It makes me just want to smack you with whatever I can find. And according to you - if I did that you would be the one to go to jail, so you'd better look out!

I can't say much about your police system, all I know is what I see on the news and that's hardly an accurate source of information a lot of the time

I do know that when it comes to domestic violence a lot of the time the police don't get the guy and women die. A lot of the time women will be afraid and change their story for fear that the guy will get out of jail and finally kill them - the police are often more strict with men because they know this to be the case.

I'm not saying it makes it right for the cops to wrongfully arrest anyone - but to make it sound like all women are just out to get men in trouble is simply wrong.
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homam
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posted April 19, 2007 02:31 AM

Police sucks.In the whole world police sucks.It's obvious but also it's completely natural.I hate cops but if i were a cop i would be just like the cops i hate.I hate police,i blame police but i WANT police.It's like smoking.I hate it,i blame it everytime i must run but i want it.Anyway Bob Dylan gives us a great example of the majority of cops and police sustem.
Here are some lyrics of Hurricane:

When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that.
In paterson thats just the way things go.
If youre black you might as well not show up on the street
less you wanna draw the heat.

Alfred bello had a partner and he had a rap for the cops.
Him and arthur dexter bradley were just out prowlin around
He said, I saw two men runnin out, they looked like middleweights
They jumped into a white car with out-of-state plates.
And miss patty valentine just nodded her head.

Cop said, wait a minute, boys, this ones not dead
So they took him to the infirmary
And though this man could hardly see
They told him that he could identify the guilty men

Four in the mornin and they haul rubin in,
Take him to the hospital and they bring him upstairs.
The wounded man looks up through his one dyin eye
Says, whad you bring him in here for? he aint the guy!
Yes, heres the story of the hurricane,
The man the authorities came to blame
For somethin that he never done.
Put in a prison cell, but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.

And the cops are puttin the screws to him, lookin for somebody to blame.
Remember that murder that happened in a bar?
Remember you said you saw the getaway car?
You think youd like to play ball with the law?
Think it might-a been that fighter that you saw runnin that night?
Dont forget that you are white.
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Pomo
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posted April 19, 2007 02:34 AM

I agree with Pandora here - when my GF broke up with her ex the guy was (verbally) abusive, threatening to come and 'get her', broke into her house - generally the kind of stuff that's likely to scare you pretty badly. So we looked into getting a domestic violence protection order and the whole thing was really a bad joke. There was no mechanism outside of a full court hearing for the police to do anything at all - which given the court hearing would have taken a month at least to arrive is pretty damn stupid. If something was going to happen it would have done long before then.

Anyway, yes sometimes police and no doubt women abuse their power. But at least in Australia the legal system really doesn't give women much help in a bad situation - the notion that women really have some incredible 'power' to send whatever guy they may choose to dislike off for a stint in the slammer is simply silly.
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Aculias
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posted April 19, 2007 05:02 AM

BS.
There are so many incidents where a man goes to jail for never lifting a finger or even coming close.

Some women are like that.They wouldnt hesitate to put you in jail.
Yall read the news but yall dont know thge 1000's of stories that are not in the news.
Yea Pomo there are bad guys & also women as well.
I seen men lose thier jobs, stay in jail for awhile.
Lose thier kids etc.
ALl because he did not buy her chocolates or he pissed her off etc.
It happens in reality.

It goes both ways.
It's just that it's a more sensetive serious matter when it comes to abusing women.
Police in the US dont put up with that crap.
That is why exploiting is so easy.

Yes Jake there are many criminals.
The way your saying it is if were all criminals.
So many times has people been harrassed just because cops had nothing better to do.
You got to admit there are bad cops here.
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pomo
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posted April 19, 2007 05:42 AM

BS yourself
You're entitled to your opinion Aculias - And obviously I can't say deny your story about your friend or whatever - but frankly I think there is much more telling evidence that the legal system tends much more to fail women, not men, in cases of domestic violence. You just have to look at the estimates of how much sexual abuse and rape occurs relative to how much is actually ever reported or acted on. I think in Australia the best available data tends to support the notion that about one in three women will suffer some kind of physical or sexual abuse - mostly from family or partners. Furthermore the effective conviction rate for rape is abysmally low - probably in the range of 5% of rapes ever result in a successful conviction.

There are various reasons why the legal system is so crap at dealing with domestic violence and rape - partly it is the difficulty of proof in court - but it is much more so that cases never get to court due to a (often quite well founded) fear on the part of victims that they will...
A) Have to face their attacker in court - which is likely to be VERY psychologically discomforting;
B) Some sleazebag lawyer will try to tell everyone that they're cheap tarts anyway who wanted it bad and then got pissy afterwards;
C) The risk of retaliation is higher than whatever benefit that you are likely to get by pursuing the case.

or...

D) Police are unwilling to take any action because they are unable to obtain sufficient evidence to obtain a conviction.

So... when you talk about the 1000s of unnoticed cases (which I can assure you mostly involve female victims) and how we all just read the news and don't have any experience... maybe it wouldn't hurt to read more yourself?? And not just the newspaper - because that's generally quite a poor source of information. I think you might find that your personal experience isn't indicative of the situation as a whole.

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Aculias
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posted April 19, 2007 05:50 AM

It goes both ways.
Men usually do deserve to stay in jail for domestic.
I am just saying it is easily exploited.

You can think that there are never any innocent people who goes to jail.
I know for a fact the laws are tooken advantage of.
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posted April 19, 2007 10:07 AM

Quote:
I am from Australia, and the police have abused their power here too, and the law system as well.

People getting away with murder, and people being put behind bars for maybe stealing a car.

Murderers getting away with it?

How much more stupid can you get?!?!


That's not abusing power at all.
That's the legal system failing, nothing to do with the police.
And stealing a car is bad enough, its when police are spending their time breaking up parties and pulling over random ppl, fake ids and stuff like that..



oh, and, **** the popo

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posted April 19, 2007 10:17 PM

Funny story here. My friend went outside one day to take out the trash. He lives in an apartament building, but the trash bin (big dumbster) is just across the street.

So he walks outside, trash bag in one hand, in nothing more than a pair  of shorts and a t-shirt. He doesn't even get to cross the street, when a police cars stops by him.

The conversation went like this:

Policeman: Gooday. May I see your ID card, please.

Friend: What ID card, I don't have one on me. I just went to take ouit the trash.

Policeman: What do you mean you have no ID card?


Friend: I went to take out the trash. I live in the building behind me.  Why would I take my ID card when I go out to take out the trash?


Policeman: What's your name pal?

Friend: X

Policeman: So you live in this building, eh?

Friend: I do.

Policeman: What's your personal number from the ID card? Name and adress also, please.

Friend: *Gives him the info*. Is there a problem officer?

Policeman: Next time I come around, make sure you have your ID card with you.

And he drives off. You can imagine the attitude the cop had during all this conversation. F***ing retards.
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homam
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posted April 20, 2007 01:24 AM

Cops and taxi-drivers
Here is my story with cops.
One night i was somewhere in Athens.That place i was is something like ghetto.Anarchs' ghetto.Anyway i was searching for a taxi. Finally i found one and took it.After about 100 metres the "taxi-driver" stopped the car in front of 10 cops and said:Take him i picked up him from the square.He was an undercover ******* cop.I had with me my id but they took me to the police station cause in the same day someone had burn 2 banks in that area.
What i understood after that? Never take a taxi again in that place.
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