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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: The Vampire as creature... old fragment of lost glory, or The Vampires dilemma?
Thread: The Vampire as creature... old fragment of lost glory, or The Vampires dilemma? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Plexus22
Plexus22


Known Hero
posted April 25, 2007 03:03 AM

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I wonder if empowering the Vampires in a future patch would actually make Necropolis more balanced or overpowered compared to other factions.

Clearly increasing damage AND increasing their Life Drain ability would make them overpowered (not to mention most likely the main target to focus on).

I wonder if damage was decreased by a point or two while Life Drain effect was doubled (=H3) would make them more satisfying... Either Attack or Damage anyway, Life Drain is totally dependant on the amount of damage inflicted.


For the record, I agree with Istari.


Well then they would be just like H3 vamps wich imo were a bit overpowerd (keep in mind H3 Necro was banned in virtually all online games wich was mostly due to the overpowered necromancy skill but still the vamps played a big part in that too).

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted April 25, 2007 12:05 PM

it used to be banned, yes, but not on most maps, mainly on larger ones

conflux was much more ridiculous and banned everywhere ~~

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radar
radar


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posted April 25, 2007 12:07 PM

among others because of phoenixes
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 25, 2007 12:14 PM

yeah, and because of stupid treasurehunters which rushed to phoenixes, than went after grail and PWNED you whatever you would do to prevent it. Bah, the memory of it alone makes me mad

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emilsn
emilsn


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posted April 25, 2007 03:25 PM

vokial my little Vampire friend... You call yourself: The Seer King Of All Vampires ! You are the vampire king! You just have to train your Vampires better! And for god sake? Make them drop the sword and go back to bite thing! ... You are the savior of the Undead!!  
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espen15
espen15


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posted June 16, 2008 05:34 PM

necropolis is tooooooooo underpowered they should make vampire´s even more stronger to level6 creature

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Nebdar
Nebdar


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Generation N
posted August 29, 2008 12:32 PM

Hmm the HOMM V Vampire is weaker then in H3 or H4, but it's balance now sort of. It serves in early game as offensive unit to support/defence in the late endgame. Its speed and initiative is temptating to use it as First Attack wave but in most of the times it's catastrophic decision. The whole Necro army now in ToE seems to rely not on swift victory, but defence/wait/evasion long battles. The Necromancer needs time and mana to curse, weaken, shatter enemy phiscaly and mentaly so they can become an easy prey for undead.
The Vampire role in these gameplan is to use it swiftness of teleport, and no retaliation to weaken, block or support so the bigger high tier can finish the work.
In time death will conquer all.
Vampire Lords IMO need someextra abilitiy so gave them LizardBite, it should be called Vampiric Bite and it's quite logical that Vampires have so great thirst for blood that when they see some of the blood is being freshly spiled it willingly joins the attack sucking life from helples victim.
And thats how my dream should be VampireLord

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tann_141
tann_141


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posted August 30, 2008 07:50 AM
Edited by tann_141 at 07:52, 30 Aug 2008.

vampires arent what they used to be sadly

the jewel of the necro army has been dulled... still vamps are quite useful in creeping (as has been said) and with necromancy you can increase their numbers quite nicely... take lucretia as a main and you wont have that big a problem with their atk and def stats

keep them hidden in the back ranks to use as a survival unit for the final battle ... cast some curses on the opponent.. then start vampirising your army

the effects of the lords stack with vampirism.. which could restore those vamps to their heroes 3 glory days

well not quite..but still.. with decent power vampirism can steal more than 50% health easily.. plus 50 from the vamps.. suddenly they live a lot longer XD

still the vampires themselves are definately not what they used to be

EDIT: i know this is not related XD but why did the phoenixes in heroes 3 have +4 growth instead of the standard +2???
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