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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Alternatives comparison
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ZombieLord
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posted June 07, 2007 10:40 PM

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poltergeist - *

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alcibiades
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posted June 08, 2007 12:29 AM

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Now the Banshee looks a lot like the Wraith

You could've used a darker, deeper color for blue


Well yes, what I did was just a simple colour inversion to show that it could look better. In fact, it does not look that much like the Wraith, at least the picture on AOH shows the Wraith to have much darker green colours on the robe (see below), and of course there's also a huge difference in the model: Scythe vs. Axe (?), Visible vs. Invisible face, glow of hands etc.


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Lith-Maethor
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posted June 08, 2007 12:41 AM

alci...

i think its still a scythe, we just get to see part of it... and the ax-like butt of it
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alcibiades
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posted June 08, 2007 12:47 AM

Yes, in fact you might be right on that. Too bad, I thought the new thing looked really cool.
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Lith-Maethor
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posted June 08, 2007 12:52 AM

cool?

scythes are cool... scythes with ax-butts are just as cool
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Doomforge
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posted June 08, 2007 09:34 AM

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hey, I'm with you too! THe unit almost completely does not differ from spectre except the color.. plus the name is stupid ~~

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watcher83
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posted June 09, 2007 12:01 PM
Edited by watcher83 at 12:04, 09 Jun 2007.

now that we know the dungeon abilities...
invisibility is (like I said before) a hit&run festival(overpowered),
creeping will be even more easy for dungeon
acidic blood = some different sort of fire shield
incinerate - greatly increases damage but although I'm sure most of you will disagree I still favor the black.
ride by attack<< rider charge

I have a question regarding incinerate - "The ability can only be used on a target that stands close to the Dragon" - how can a dragon attack a target which isn't close??

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alcibiades
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posted June 09, 2007 12:16 PM

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acidic blood = some different sort of fire shield


There is a subtle difference: Fireshield damage depends on strength of Attacker (returns X % of damage done by attacker). Acidic Blood depends on strength of defender (returns 25 % of damage Hydra would do on attack).
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watcher83
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posted June 09, 2007 12:45 PM

You are right Alcibiades, but when I said it I was thinking more in terms of concept than effects.

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radar
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posted June 09, 2007 12:48 PM

just attacker gets hurt

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Doomforge
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posted June 09, 2007 12:55 PM

it may be useful against those jousting fools..

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watcher83
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posted June 10, 2007 11:39 AM

or against horned leapers

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alcibiades
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posted June 12, 2007 01:38 PM

Would be interesting to do a detailed comparison of the alternatives now we actually know the new abilities (save perhaps a few datails).
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radar
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posted June 12, 2007 02:17 PM

well yes, but it is still unclear. for example, while in these abilities is written lich has sth which damages units surrounding her, on mightandagic.com there's nothing about it.

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Lesij
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posted June 12, 2007 03:07 PM

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I have a question regarding incinerate - "The ability can only be used on a target that stands close to the Dragon" - how can a dragon attack a target which isn't close??


Fire breathe attacks also creature behind dragon's target, so only the target will be affected by Incinerate...
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alcibiades
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posted June 12, 2007 06:01 PM

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I have a question regarding incinerate - "The ability can only be used on a target that stands close to the Dragon" - how can a dragon attack a target which isn't close??


Fire breathe attacks also creature behind dragon's target, so only the target will be affected by Incinerate...


I don't think this is the right interpretation of the text. I don't know, but I feel quite certain that the Dragon will only be able to target a neighboring unit with Incinerate, and thus can't move and use the ability at the same time.
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watcher83
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posted June 12, 2007 06:13 PM

Now I get it, thanks alcibiades, that sounds logical and not so overpowered, I'm starting to wonder if we were right when we(the community) considered most of the units overpowered.

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ChaosDragon
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posted June 12, 2007 06:30 PM
Edited by ChaosDragon at 18:32, 12 Jun 2007.

incinerate damage can be increased with lucky attack ? (300% atk)

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alcibiades
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posted June 12, 2007 06:49 PM

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Now I get it, thanks alcibiades, that sounds logical and not so overpowered, I'm starting to wonder if we were right when we(the community) considered most of the units overpowered.


I agree, actually. At first, it did look very powerful, but in fact, I'm not sure this is so much better than the normal Firebreath (potential double attack) as to lable it overpowered. I might have got the details wrong, of course, this is just my interpretation, but personally I think it does sound both reasonable and useful.
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Olo
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posted June 12, 2007 08:05 PM
Edited by Olo at 21:44, 12 Jun 2007.

Here is academy`s alternative. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/9991073665
As I though Nival didn`t work hard with wizards NOTHING special. Look at storm lord- everything they did is replacement "call lighting" into "call storm". Of course collosus was painted on green and now we have storm lord( isn`t the same name as in fortress lvl6 creature ? )
Djinies are worse than before, gargoyles also.
The only interesting altenative is golem.
Also Combat Mage ( what a stupid name !! ) may be interesting if we will know what is eldritch aura.

Comparing these alternative with others ( Sylvan , Dungeon ) there is nothing amazing.

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