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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted June 22, 2007 12:56 AM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 00:56, 22 Jun 2007.
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@Daystar*
Indeed. But then it has to be different kind of werewolves. As I said somewhere else, think of the werewolves from Underworld and Underworld Evolution.
William was a son of his father Alexander Corvinus. William also had an brother, Marcus.
Marcus got bitten by a vampire bat and became the first and most dangerous of them.
William got bitten by a wolf and became the first werewolf, a white one. He was the kind of werewolf that has no chance in nature to turn back to human form. And he was very infectious, and resisted heavy loads of damage and suffering (he even survived several hundred years in a prison). As he took bites of several hundred humans, they also turned to werewolves, also they infected even more. Many were slayed by the vampires but quite alot also survived, as hundred of years passed, in secret many humans turned to werewolves up today. But as the years have passed, humans, at least the srongest have learned to control their shape without the influence of moonlight.
Now to my point, these strongest werewolf which can shape form at will would fit very well as werewolf heroes (who on Tellus would have an rabid wolf like William as hero?? He would just make chaos! Figure..)
Some could also be fitting as witchdoctors/shaman creatures, at tier 3 or 5 maybe. A werewolf could be as said at tier 4. Ordinary wolf, as the neutrals in HoF could be fitting as tier 3 (I think they indeed are lvl 3 neutrals, so no change needed). Will O Wisps could be lvl 2's, then again lesser wolves a tier 1. Dont quite know which creature that would be fitting as level 6 or 7.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted June 22, 2007 01:08 AM |
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The Manticore is already in the game ... My wishes would be:
Haven: This one is tricky, actually. I would say Pikeman (2) because it has a strategic function not really present in any of the other units except perhaps the Squire. And I also kind of liked the giant War Catapult (6) of Heroes 4.
Sylvan: I would have to say Pegasus (6) because it's such a nice classic creature. And Satyr (3) as a low-level caster could actually work.
Academy: I will go a bit against the Heroes tradition and opt for Basilisk (4) here, in the desert snake version. And Sphinx (6) could also make a very nice beast.
Inferno: Deffinitely the Efreet (6) - how could they ever kill them? And the Gog (2), although a pathetic unit, was a nice concept.
Necropolis: The Death Knight (6) is already her, and so is the Mummy, so I don't really see any needs for further Necropolis neutrals.
Dungeon: Again I would go a bit towards tradition and say Gorgon (6) because it would go well with the scaly looks of this faction. Other options would be the already existant Manticore (6), and I would also like to see the Beholder back, perhaps as mid level caster?
Fortress: The Wolf (3) would go nicely here. And the Thunderbird (5) would also fit the theme, albeit being pretty close to the Thane it'd probably be kind of redundant.
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Daystar
Honorable
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Back from the Dead
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posted June 22, 2007 01:26 AM |
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The roc should go with the fortress. For refference, I am refering to the roc from Sinbad, legend of the seven seas. It was sortof like harpy eagle, but white and blue, with uber awesome plumage.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted June 22, 2007 02:04 AM |
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1. Gorgon
2. Basilisk
3. Beholder
4. Naga
5. Azure Dragon
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted June 22, 2007 04:16 AM |
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Haven: This one is tricky, actually. I would say Pikeman (2) because it has a strategic function not really present in any of the other units except perhaps the Squire. And I also kind of liked the giant War Catapult (6) of Heroes 4.
Good heavens no. There's already a catapult unit in the game and it is a war machine and i firmly believe that it should stay a war machine. An aura possessing templar unit with the ability to smite the undead or demons could be a choice.
Sylvan: Hmmm... Pegasi with an elf rider... Doesn't somehow fit. Satyr could do nicely. Faerie Dragon wouldn't be such a bad idea either
Academy: Sphinx would be interesting. I would still like to see a mechanogorgon.
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Daystar
Honorable
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posted June 22, 2007 04:17 AM |
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call it a gigagorgon, it sounds cooler.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted June 22, 2007 09:26 AM |
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Good heavens no. There's already a catapult unit in the game and it is a war machine and i firmly believe that it should stay a war machine. An aura possessing templar unit with the ability to smite the undead or demons could be a choice.
Well, tastes differ. There is already a templar knight in the game (= Paladin). 
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Daystar
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posted June 22, 2007 01:26 PM |
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Hey, here's a thought: The Amphisbaena!
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 22, 2007 06:35 PM |
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Hey, here's a thought: The Amphisbaena!
A good thought, but what the hell is it?!?!
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted June 23, 2007 08:38 AM |
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It's a two headed snake the size of a bicycle chain.
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 11:57 AM |
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something like this:
I think it would make a cool out of the blue unit.
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted June 23, 2007 02:20 PM |
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Mother nature! Now thatis a wicked creature. Kiss my ass got a new meaning...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted June 23, 2007 02:22 PM |
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Hehe I remember that one  Daystar has made some good ones!
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 03:38 PM |
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Okay, but it SHALL not look like that!! ... sorry,. 
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PhoenixReborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted June 23, 2007 04:22 PM |
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1. Homonculus
2. Gorgon
3. 3 headed lion
4. Efreet
5. Death zebra
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Gnoll_Mage
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 04:36 PM |
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Unused creatures in H5 from H3, minus the magic elemental (), which could be added; *s show my top 5
Naga *, Troglodyte, Harpy, Beholder / Evil Eye *, Medusa *, Pikeman / Halberdier, Monk, Gog / Magog, Efreet, Pegasus *, Gnoll
Lizardman, Dragon Fly / Serpent Fly, Basilisk *, Gorgon, Wolf Rider, Ogre, Roc, Thunderbird, Behemoth
Those 5 would look most impressive and sensible in the new 3D engine, IMO.
Other possibilities
Valkyrie, Faerie, Chimera, Einherjar, Sphinx, Satyr / Faun, Werewolf (I'm not his biggest fan though)
Sylvan - Satyr (3) / Faun (2) / Pegasus rider (5)
Haven - ???
Academy - Sphinx (3)
Fortress - Valkyrie (6) / Chimera (6) / Efreet (6)???
Inferno - Efreet (6)
Necropolis - Ghoul, Revenant (4)
Dungeon - Beholder (4) / Chimera (6)
Haven's tricky - there's barely room for another human unit (just how different would a crusader be from a squire, a monk from a priest?), and there are few creatures that really go. Pegasus is possible but it's better in Sylvan or Fortress (Valkyrie); hmm, maybe Sphinx would work...
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted June 23, 2007 06:07 PM |
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I think instead of incorporating some human type unit into the Haven it would be better to add some kind of mythical beast unit. The problem is nothing seems to fit their line up. There could be many interesting possibilities but most will be met with that "uh I don't think it looks right alongside the paladins, priests and swordsmen" by most people. A fully armored gorgon would look nice IMHO.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 06:13 PM |
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Haven's tricky - there's barely room for another human unit (just how different would a crusader be from a squire, a monk from a priest?), and there are few creatures that really go. Pegasus is possible but it's better in Sylvan or Fortress (Valkyrie); hmm, maybe Sphinx would work...
Its sad that no one never did this: Griffen Rider - Would have been awesome , sadly no third upgrades, and the alt will not be with a rider .. But there must be something else ... Sad that rogues and there kind has been stolen by the dark elves...
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SBlister
Famous Hero
Rakshasa Commander
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posted June 23, 2007 06:14 PM |
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Can't use the griffin rider cuz you don't want having two units in your line up looking the same. I can't believe I didn't think of this before. White Tigers for HAVEN!!!!
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted June 23, 2007 08:28 PM |
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Can't use the griffin rider cuz you don't want having two units in your line up looking the same. I can't believe I didn't think of this before. White Tigers for HAVEN!!!!
Tigers for haven? - This is no circus...  Give the tigers to the nature people... Baaah just throw them away, hated them..
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