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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Sylvan Tier 2: Why I hate them and why you should too!
Thread: Sylvan Tier 2: Why I hate them and why you should too! This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
Homer171
Homer171


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posted June 24, 2007 12:48 AM
Edited by Homer171 at 00:52, 24 Jun 2007.

First i hated Dancers mainly because they replaced Dwarfs. But they really covered that one up in expansion! Dancers as creatures aren't anything spectacular but their problem is that they are new in the game.

Dark Elfs where other new creatures in the series and that did seem odd at first. Now it's part of the game and it dosen't bother me at all. Maby in next Heroes they are wiser and use classic mythology creatures rather than their own sexual fantasies

It's good what we are getting but in next game there should be also.. Harpies, Behemonths, Nomands, Ogres, Trolls, Halflings, Boars, Rocs, Thunderbirds, Gorgons, Nagas, Genies, Neutral Dragons and Commanders!

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted June 24, 2007 12:52 AM

Actually I like both dark elf and new sylvan units. Rampart was slow enough with the dwarves and treants, now it feels better imo.
As for dungeon I like more furies than harpies and don't really miss beholders or medusas. Only the shadow witches could be a bit more interesting but still they are ok.
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Homer171
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posted June 24, 2007 01:14 AM

Centaurs/Dwarfs to Dancers/Druids was good change and all creatures works good in their towns now. Furies was nice change indeed but most of these new creatures had no backround and that i missed perhaps little.

Satyrn as example would be more of fantasy creature than Dancers but the racial theme of the game is more importan than a single creature. Thats why "Maby in next Heroes"...
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2007 01:30 AM

I liked the centaurs as lancers, one of my favourites Satyrs I could just never get to like them.
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Homer171
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posted June 24, 2007 01:51 AM

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Satyrs I could just never get to like them


Any creature what looks like it got something stuck in their ass is hard to like. Satyrns, Leprechaun and other goofballs where rather gay in H4. "Have seen my fun hole?" Oh man i'm getting little tired here best to get some sleep.

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Moonlith
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posted June 24, 2007 01:56 AM

I must agree the Sylvan elves look plain UGLY. And not as much body or clothing wise (even though Master Hunter clothing = lamest ever), but simply FACIAL wise. From elves, you'd expect prettyness. Instead, you get a disgusting, long-stretched weasily look... Which just makes you want to puke rather than drool.

War Dancers are sexy, but the face is a total boner-killer.

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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2007 02:17 AM

I hated that initially but got used to it to the point I don't even notice it anymore...
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emilsn
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posted June 24, 2007 12:34 PM

I blame Blizzard

Quote:
Satyrn as example would be more of fantasy creature than Dancers but the racial theme of the game is more importan than a single creature. Thats why "Maby in next Heroes"...


HoMM4 Satyrs were AWFUL, but I must blame Blizzard for tihs: satyrs Seems evil to me! And i blame Blizzard, they made them evil and nasty... Sorry I cannot have them in a town... They are evil
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2007 12:45 PM

What I blame is that they passed the idea that long sideway ears look cool No they look like crap and are silly too.
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Moonlith
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posted June 24, 2007 12:57 PM

I think they got that idea from Jak and Daxter.

Long ears seems more popular these days with elven-type creatures, and I think they do look better than the standard human ears with a sharpened point. Side-ways though, meh, who knows. I don't have a problem with it. It's their face that is the problem.

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The_Mysterious
The_Mysterious


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posted June 24, 2007 02:28 PM

Why you pay attention to small things? Get used to it.
I never liked Dwarves anyway, no matter the looks or whatever.
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Elvin
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posted June 24, 2007 05:56 PM

Still H5 made me change my mind For the better!
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watcher83
watcher83


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posted June 25, 2007 08:16 AM

I like the wardancers, only the blood furies are much better. Compared to the rest of the tier2 upgrades they're more than capable.

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SBlister
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posted June 25, 2007 11:13 PM

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what do u mean by first strike??all units have first strike unless u mean no retaliation..this is not HOMM4  

What I meant is when the unit attacks a blade dancer, the blade dancer RETALIATES BEFORE the enemy unit attacks, so they would kill the enemy units before taking damage. I think that would put it up on the same level of power as the blood maiden.

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Orfinn
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posted June 26, 2007 12:49 AM

Quote:
I think they got that idea from Jak and Daxter.

Long ears seems more popular these days with elven-type creatures, and I think they do look better than the standard human ears with a sharpened point. Side-ways though, meh, who knows. I don't have a problem with it. It's their face that is the problem.


You want sexual appealing, elven faces.....?
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Plexus22
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posted June 26, 2007 03:22 AM

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what do u mean by first strike??all units have first strike unless u mean no retaliation..this is not HOMM4  

What I meant is when the unit attacks a blade dancer, the blade dancer RETALIATES BEFORE the enemy unit attacks, so they would kill the enemy units before taking damage. I think that would put it up on the same level of power as the blood maiden.
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Why do they need to be comparable to the blood maidens???? This whole discussion is ridiculous. Its like some 5 year olds whining about whose piece of cake is bigger. Maybe Nival should give zombies 16 initiative and no enemy retal so they can compare with blood maidens too

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dkolb
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posted June 26, 2007 03:23 PM

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Why do they need to be comparable to the blood maidens???? This whole discussion is ridiculous. Its like some 5 year olds whining about whose piece of cake is bigger. Maybe Nival should give zombies 16 initiative and no enemy retal so they can compare with blood maidens too


Actually that's a good idea!
Hey Fabrice Pikachu, you hear that?

Actually a flying zombie would be awesome.
Any way Blade Dancers/War Dancers suck and they always will suck in just about every way possible.


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Elvin
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posted June 26, 2007 03:35 PM

Hey I thought you were under the influence of alcohol the last time you said that Anyway they are pretty decent comparing some other tier 2 units.
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dkolb
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posted June 26, 2007 03:36 PM

I was but I'm sober now and I still am not FOND of them.
I don't really hate them with as much of a passion though lol

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Elvin
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posted June 26, 2007 03:44 PM

As you said there is nothing special about them or an interesting gameplay.
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