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Hexa
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posted October 26, 2001 09:28 AM

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Darkmyth_Miura
Everybody that makes such a thread to explain "in lenght" (and it's spelled L E N G T H, not lenght; just something you might wanna watch out for) why he should be a mod ... actually proves he shouldn't be one!@

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Ouch...Typo.....make SURE you Quote me with NAME and without typo ...ok?
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posted October 26, 2001 09:49 AM

Just HAD to make this reply since you pointed out my typo.
We will have ourselves a little game here.
Below you can find a few lines from Darkmyth_Miura

The trick is to find as much errors as you can…..there will be a big [empty] Pandora’s box for the winner (had to include something about HOMM). At first I had planned to include all his posts ….. this would however have taken me the better part of the morning ….. since there are so many. LOL
Have fun!

Quote 1  [I wold especially like Valeriy to respond to this post and any other suggestions will be appreciated. ]

Quote 2  [I am thinking on whether I should try to become a moderator of Heroes Community.]

These where his first two lines. I’ll continue…..

Quote 3 [Just to make this simple for the lazy people... I'm don't actually want to be a moderator, ]
   
Quote 4 [I wanted to become moderator a few months ago but that soon faded because I was jammed with lots of other things to do and couldn't hold up to type anything in the community. ]

Quote 5 [Well, my current leadership status is this: I am the leader of 6 different clans, spread out on different games. ]

Quote 6 [I own 2 clans jointly with my two best friends (they help me a lot considering all the stuff I have to do and I'd like to thank them) and I gave one of my clans to one of my friends, so now it's 5 clans.]

Quote 7 [I am really good with originizing and with setting up events and such, which I think will help me if I become a moderator.]

Quote 8 [I want to thank beforehand the people who thinks I can be a good moderator. ]

WOW these where just from his opening post!
Let me know if I should continue … OK?
LMAO

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Shae_Trielle
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posted October 26, 2001 09:55 AM

To help out on Darkmyth's question

Political propaganda is difficult in the western world. We have so many different sources of information that the word democracy is always at the forefront of our society. Choice. We have it in abundance.

Political propaganda is easy RMS. All you have to do is take away avenues of information and then feed the people the same stuff over and over again. It happens all over the world, even in western society. Propaganda is a frightfully easy thing to do, let us never think that it is difficult, or impossible.

If Val shut us off from accessing all other HoMM sites and we were only allowed to visit HC for new information about Heroes 4, then he could practically feed us anything and say that it came from the mouth of Maranthea and we would have no choice but to believe it.

*smile*

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Hexa
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posted October 26, 2001 10:08 AM

Hate to admit but Shae's got a point there.

Even in the Western world, there is lots of propaganda in some form or another. Most people aren't even aware of this.

People read their newspapers, view their talkshows/debating programs and so on. This way the media takes control of shaping your world in a subtle way

Its al has to do with perceptions!@


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Milena
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posted October 26, 2001 10:34 AM

Erm, guys, *gently clears throat*

Can someone sum up what you said here so far? I have only 3-4 hours online. ;-)
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Hexa
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posted October 26, 2001 10:41 AM

hehehe
You should get a job like me...so U can be on-line all office hours
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Valeriy
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posted October 26, 2001 01:29 PM
Edited By: Valeriy on 26 Oct 2001

Hehehehehehe :)

I want to thank you for making this thread. It made me notice how much I've changed in the last two years. I've had another board on a psychological topic, and being in charge, I did some of the things you did in this thread, ended up losing some visitors. People don't like being an experiment. People don't like when you try to play word games against them without really being interested in who they are, just trying to win. These are the things I've learned. I remember myself back then, and if it was me in your place, I wouldn't argue with you If you want me to answer any questions, ask away. If you're fine with your conclusions, I don't mind. But I give a little warning that starting a second thread about the subjectivity of "HC government" might cause some serious laughter, not that I mind

- Do you like Elvis Presley?
- Nah, his singing is terrible!
- Have you been to his concert?
- Nah, my friend sung his song to me.
(there's meaning in this )

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Hexa
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posted October 26, 2001 01:33 PM

Going on the psycho-tour ..... nice!
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Milena
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posted October 26, 2001 01:40 PM

Quote:
Political propaganda is difficult in the western world.
Here I do not agree. I can tell you experience has proved it is as easy there as anywhere.


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Sha_Men
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posted October 26, 2001 01:54 PM

Propaganda is changing it's face...

I think political propaganda is much harder in western world nowadays than before.
However there are some issues like patriotism which through politicians can still get some issues which aren't really related to the subject.

Propaganda has changed it face from obvious to unclear. When politicians nowadays say something it can be almost anything.

Also we might want to remember that propaganda can be done through commercial issues too. In western world we are bombed with commercials what to buy and even what to vote and if this isn't propaganda, what it is then?

People can just now recognise obvious propaganda more easily and reject it. But in reality we are still receiving lots of propaganda it is done just different way so we wouldn't notice it so easily.

There is always the unconscious mind and it can be affected through propaganda whether you actually believe into something or not. Someday you will. Then it's obvious to you.
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Hexa
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posted October 26, 2001 02:05 PM

Anyone want to react to the typo's in the quotes above...I didn't do that work for nothing did I?

grrrr
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Sha_Men
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posted October 26, 2001 02:12 PM

Reaction.

Please continue dear Hexa.
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posted October 26, 2001 04:08 PM

Exactly, Sha

Quote:
Also we might want to remember that propaganda can be done through commercial issues too. In western world we are bombed with commercials what to buy and even what to vote and if this isn't propaganda, what it is then?
My very thought. They said communism was the baby of propaganda but call me Sonic if it's not the capitalism's child.

Too much of Hisory of Economy classes, I guess.
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 27, 2001 03:14 AM

Quote:
Just HAD to make this reply since you pointed out my typo.
We will have ourselves a little game here.
Below you can find a few lines from Darkmyth_Miura

The trick is to find as much errors as you can…..there will be a big [empty] Pandora’s box for the winner (had to include something about HOMM). At first I had planned to include all his posts ….. this would however have taken me the better part of the morning ….. since there are so many. LOL
Have fun!

Quote 1  [I wold especially like Valeriy to respond to this post and any other suggestions will be appreciated. ]

Quote 2  [I am thinking on whether I should try to become a moderator of Heroes Community.]

These where his first two lines. I’ll continue…..

Quote 3 [Just to make this simple for the lazy people... I'm don't actually want to be a moderator, ]
   
Quote 4 [I wanted to become moderator a few months ago but that soon faded because I was jammed with lots of other things to do and couldn't hold up to type anything in the community. ]

Quote 5 [Well, my current leadership status is this: I am the leader of 6 different clans, spread out on different games. ]

Quote 6 [I own 2 clans jointly with my two best friends (they help me a lot considering all the stuff I have to do and I'd like to thank them) and I gave one of my clans to one of my friends, so now it's 5 clans.]

Quote 7 [I am really good with originizing and with setting up events and such, which I think will help me if I become a moderator.]

Quote 8 [I want to thank beforehand the people who thinks I can be a good moderator. ]

WOW these where just from his opening post!
Let me know if I should continue … OK?
LMAO



OMG Hexa, you went through ALL that trouble in trying to make me look bad. I really do feel sorry that no one has commented on MY GRAMMAR AND SENTENCE mistakes. So here's something that might make you feel better :

quote from me: "OH MY GOD!!! Darkmyth_Miura MADE MISTAKES!!! He is such a blubberhead."

cough* I hope you  feel better now.
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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 27, 2001 03:17 AM

oh ya, VALERIY, do you have aim? If you do, tell me, cuz I deleted ICQ so I can't talk to you now.
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RMS
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posted October 27, 2001 04:21 AM
Edited By: RMS on 27 Oct 2001

I have taken this under some heavy consideration and it’s resulted in thus: despite who I am, I simply cannot let this slide. First off, while I’m not altogether sure this is the main point of discussion here, but I simply do not see just how easy political propaganda is. I realize that under ordinary circumstance, commercial propaganda is very different, and usually easier to create and get across its point. However, as far as I can see, when it comes to politics, it’s one of the most confusing and intertwined things that appear in this world. Please do explain just what makes it so easy, if you wouldn’t mind

Anyway, as for you, Sir Iwannabeamoderatorbecauseyouarentagoodone, I admit that there may have been a bit of misconception on my part, but I shall not recant what I have previously said. Before, I was fine with what you said, and in your interest. However, you have just slapped me in the face, in return for simply defending and expressing my own stance. I shall accept and respect what you have to say, but do not in any sense, expect me to agree. If I may say so, I am generally a nice person to be around, being a bit carefree almost.

However, at times like this, it seems some people enjoy to bring out another side to me. I do not know what has provoked you to make those remarks, but indeed the way I see it, I am in no way the heart of it. What I am defending myself against, is your attacks my beliefs and my pride. You may break my body, but you shall never imprison my soul. I have not insulted you, no matter what you say; at the very least, I have not directly and purposefully done so. I am protecting my honor at this point and time. I usually do not act like this, because there is not just reason to do so. However, I assure you that if my intent were to insult you, I would have made it painfully obvious. However, that is not who I am. It is you, my good sir, which has insulted me with such bitterness and harshness.

Please, if you feel me rude, brash and discourteous, do make your point- preferably clearly and concise. I encourage you to express yourself and your beliefs. In that way, may good result from all of this. As with everything, do not we not as humans seek to improve everything? We know that we cannot achieve perfection in our own standings and power. Yet, that is what we constantly strive for. That essential drive keeps everything moving. What we all really want is for everything to be as good as it possibly can. Suggestions are always welcome, but maybe if you substantiate your arguments, and back them up, I may be more convinced of them. I try to listen to all sides before making a decision, whenever possible. Please do give me an example of when I have not. Some may consider what I do, unfair. However, it is only because I have not “blessed” them as they wished. Just because I happen to hold the opposite opinion and do not favor one view, does not mean it is wrong, or is that side which has been rejected. If you so wish, I will take more precaution in the future not to infringe on your rights. One example of something one individual does, does not reflect the actions of an entire group, whatsoever. Everyone is influenced by outside forces, but just because they belong to one faction, does not prove that everyone he is associated with is exactly like him/her. In my (bad) memory, I cannot recall once when I have ever even used the term “stupid” here yet. Even if I had, I am most certainly sure that I did not use the term as an insult to a fellow friend. Do explain to all of us, how far you want this democracy to run? Do you feel that the majority of us here do not hold enough power within ourselves to know when we must go to the bathroom? I do not see anyone here asking permission to use the bathroom, or ask someone else when they can go out of their homes to go meet up with their friends to go shopping. You are essentially free to do as you wish, so long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. We always ask for input from people. It is nobody’s fault that one remains silent, if they have something to say, except themselves. The only ones to blame for something are those who do nothing to oppose it. Of the few decisions being made here, I do believe the majority here is made by the people and for the people. Do tell, what is wrong with this community that you wish to be righted. How have we wronged you?

Again, I shall emphasize the point that I never insulted you. You may say as you like, but what you feel is just that. I never said what you said was childlike. In fact, I found it a bit profound, interesting, and may I add, a bit humorous? At first, there were a few points that I did not see clearly, but now as I read over what I have stated myself, I do not see any mistakes that need to be corrected. I am certain that you are in fact not a child, as am I. However, I do not see that as any reason to justify your actions. You can stamp whatever you want on my head, but I will do what it takes to rub it off. Just because you have an advantage of age here, does not mean you are better than me, or anyone else. While my arguments may have some semblance of structure to them, I am still talking in a “casual” tone here, myself. Had I attempted a different approach, as you have mentioned about yourself, you may not completely understand what I have to say, nor may I totally understand myself. If you wish to grant yourself such a challenge, please do try to make things as confusing as you can. By doing that, you shall lose those of us that are unqualified to understand what you have to say. Then, those that are left whom do understand shall most definitely agree with you, after your display of infinite wisdom and prudence. If you would like to open your eyes a bit more and let more than a fraction of light to penetrate, you may come to see that I have still not take the position of offense. I am clearly stating fact, and opinions, intermixed. I am standing my ground, firmly taking my defense against your tremendous onslaught.

Whether or not we were “qualified” is not what is important. It is who contributes to the community and what they contribute that is most important. We govern ourselves in such a sense, and abide by a common set of rules. None of us as far as I have seen has been abusing any “privileges”, accounting for the few that we actually hold. In my view, you are unjustly accusing us of unrighteous deeds not committed. If you clearly state what you have to say, and explain it to me clearly, I will always consider your views. Because I do not necessarily like what you have to say, cannot be fairly viewed as a misconception. On a broad perspective, I am aware of what you are saying, and I do indeed understand what you say, despite my overbearing attitude against all who face me. If you do not mean to say that I am a fool, and plan to make a mockery of me, why do you do what you have been doing? I do not need anyone to tell me what I am, and what I am like. I am more or less aware of that. Do not try your twisted form of flattery or whatever it is you are trying to insert here, for if it is your intent, it will not work. Just because English is not originally my native tongue, does not mean I do not understand the English language, or I am slow in thought. I do not want to sound redundant, but I am replying to every point you are making. I always try to read what others have to say whenever I can. I take into account all that has been said, and formulate my own thoughts. Everyone always has a choice to choose between right or wrong, this and that. Never in this universe, can one truthfully say that they have no say in what they do. Nobody can force you to do something, without your consent. If you are trying to say that I have turned my back onto others, and to the light of good and turning to the path of darkness and evil, may I at least say I do not feel I am? You have been contradicting yourself many times along the way. If you are not with us, you must be in one form or another, against us. If you are not turning against us, why do you make such remarks about what we do here? Perhaps you are stating your opinion, but whenever anyone ever says something, it has impact on whoever hears it. What one says does not come without other results or consequences. You talk of oxymoron. You are filled with them. I am quite aware of how the system is run in the country in which I live; thank you very much for offering to explain it to me though.  How do you plan to implement this ridiculous idea into a message board based system, may I ask? How is this not democratic? It’s not even as if each of us held totally different degrees of power. I am sure you would be greatly satisfied if everyone was a moderator, would you not? There are not separate branches in this community, nor for any other message boards I aware of, actually. There are the moderators and administration, to oversee and engage in the dealings of everyone else. What can any of us do, I ask? Apparently, you stand on the other side. What do you see on the other side of the magic mirror?

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Darkmyth_Miura
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posted October 27, 2001 04:57 AM

I agree RMS. What you said made a lot of sense. I think you ARE definitely worthy of a truly good moderator. As I said, I DO NOT think that I'm better than you or anything. I don't know where you got that idea. But that last last post you made (although it is a bit funny) hit me in a somewhat insulted way. That's why I responded in a harsh tone. I guess I misunderstood what you said, because I thought you were insulting me. I'm sorry for that. But as long as this thing's cleared up I just want to add that you are a great moderator with a rational mind and the community is lucky to have you. With you around, even if I want to be a moderator, I don't see the need for me to be one.
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posted October 27, 2001 05:05 AM

But I must add:

I do think this community is fair and democratic, but I have my own belief of democracy, and personally I think this community can even be more fair and democratic. An oxymoron is a pair of words next to each other that contradicts each other. I think you have the definition confused. I did not use any pair of words that contradict each other. But I may have self-contradicted myself in my posts (my mistake). I admit, my opinion is not 100% correct, and I have made mistakes which I go over and fix. But the majority of my opinion makes sense, and I HAVE STATED my point many times; I just don't know how you could have missed it. But I agree with much of what you said. You're a cool guy to talk to.
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posted October 27, 2001 05:11 AM

I NEVER exporess excessive flattery towards people. I state that you are smart and a intelligent person to talk to because it is the truth. Do not think that I am trying to impress you. I am very straight-forward. Unless you want me to think otherwise of you don't remark that my "flattery will not work on you," since it is NOT kissing up to you. Also, try not to insult the people you argue with. I may have INDIRECTLY offended you in some way, and I am sorry. But I did so because of your rude comment of me. I respect people who respect me, and I expect the same from you.
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posted October 27, 2001 10:02 AM

DM...

No one told you this so far but posting 3 messages in a row is considered spamming by the HC rules. :-)

Sorry. :-O
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