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violent_flower
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posted June 30, 2007 06:32 PM

A World Without Men?

I was scanning through my MSN news and came across this article. “A world without men”, as far as children are concerned, what do you think? I feel men can sometimes become wrapped up in themselves and feel that the thought of a child, to carry on their name, makes them have purpose at first.

Once playtime is interrupted and they discover that the woman is hard pressed to wait on them and take care of the children, they quickly bail. Using immaturity, money, and the stress of life to back out of their responsibilities. This is of coarse not so with all fathers and is even true of mothers as well.
 
The concept of the traditional mother and father household has been lost for sometime now. If two women or even just one woman, who is financially and mentally stable (*mentally stable, chuckles*) wants to produce sperm from her own bone marrow, well then go for it.
No different then a lesbian couple adopting as far as I’m concerned. It is the love and care that the child gets that really matters, not how they came into this world. The decision will require a lot of funding and will be well thought out, which in a traditional family sometimes is just not the case.


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I normally don’t spend a great deal of time thinking about my sperm. But recently a team of scientists announced they had made artificial sperm from human bone marrow, and media reports abounded with the dire news that my goodfellas (and by extension, me) had been rendered unnecessary.
If a woman chose to do so, speculated tabloid journalists, she could make sperm from her own bone marrow, fertilize another woman’s egg — and voila!
“Men could be completely sidelined,” according to Britain’s Daily Mail.
“Women to Self Create,” blared the headline in Australia’s Daily Telegraph.  
“Men beware!” began a story on one U.S. news Web site.
There are at least half a dozen reasons why such speculation is silly, some scientific and some practical. For example, as long as sex feels good and remains no more expensive than dinner and a bottle of wine, most people will use natural-grown sperm.
Still, suggests Gregory Stock, director of the program on medicine, society and technology at the UCLA School of Medicine and the CEO of a biotech company called Signum Biosciences, it is very interesting that there were any stories at all. Experiments have created eggs and sperm, so-called artificial gametes, from embryonic stem cells and other cell types for years now with limited success, so the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap. And the stories are reminiscent of some that were printed 10 years ago when the birth of Dolly the sheep, the first mammal cloned from an adult cell, was announced. We men were declared washed up then, too.
Stock, author of the book “Redesigning Humans,” believes there were so many stories recently because such experiments are as much symbol as science. “The importance is just the idea of two women having a child, one creating sperm and other having an oocyte [egg]. Well, what does that say about marriage laws? About whether men are needed? There are all sorts of ways that play into our psyche, who and what we are, what relationships are all about, the limits of the technological vision of ourselves.”
I just want to know why you women are in such a rush to get rid of us. Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a friendly little book in 2005 called “Are Men Necessary?” Are you trying to give us a complex or something?
A world without our sperm
So permit me to run with the tabloid visionaries and see where men wind up in a world that does not need our sperm because you ladies are out there making them on your own.

Hmmm. In the near term, men may not be much different than the present. “The concept here that resonates with people is the idea of men not being necessary in some way,” Stock suggests. “But men are not really necessary at this point either.”
Well, strictly in terms of keeping the human species alive, you women need some of us. You just don’t need all that many of us (though we would prefer to keep that under our hats, if we wore hats). We make a glut of sperm, millions of them, so one man can spread a lot of seed.
So let’s assume stem cells are used to treat couples lacking sperm, and then to provide lesbian couples with sperm that are genetically theirs, and then a few heterosexual women say, “Who needs men?”






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posted June 30, 2007 06:45 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 18:49, 30 Jun 2007.

If women want to get anything done then they know it's better to have a man in charge than a woman.  With a man you'll always know where you stand.  With women they won't even give you the courtesy of cleaning the knife before they stab you in the back.

Edit:  Strictly speaking on the piece I think it is great that lesbian couples may have a way of producing children.  Yes men might be scientifically obsolete in the future but come on, we all know that we're needed for other things besides providing the occasional sperm...farting in public...scratching our crotches while standing in line...smelling bad after work(actually women get off on that)...occasionally taking out the trash...dutifully accepting women's nagging....
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posted June 30, 2007 06:55 PM




Well sometimes you just have to prove a point, men are kinnda slow.
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posted June 30, 2007 07:02 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 19:03, 30 Jun 2007.

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men are kinnda slow.


No we're not.  We just happen think think on a different plane than women.  So when you speak to us it takes a bit longer to process the information.

Learning to communicate with women is like learning a foreign language.  No matter how good you get it always takes a second to process.  Since you don't just use words, we have to learn to understand your intonations, your gestures, your scowls, and where you strategically place your hands.  Are they on your hips?  Are they waving emphatically?  Are they balled in a fist?  Are they crossed?

It's not our fault.  More like, it's yours because you insist on trying to be as complicated as possible.

Edit:  I hear you hammering away already. I learned a long time ago that if I want peace I will have to let the woman have the final say.

Go ahead.
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posted June 30, 2007 07:36 PM

Listen, I witnessed you play Heroes, while thinking about Never Winter Nights, playing the PSP in your lap, and surfing the net all at the same time. Not just performing those tasks but performing them with precision. So don’t tell me that it takes you a bit longer to process the following:

“Zomg, is there a small chance that just maybe you could, well, I don’t know, do something besides sit on your *** all day?”

“What do you mean we speak in a foreign language, if this is the case then you just pulled a foreign language out of your *** in six weeks. So with that being said our language should be relatively easy to understand.”

Ok now back on subject…      

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posted June 30, 2007 08:03 PM

Why is this in Other Games?
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posted June 30, 2007 09:01 PM

Well, you don't have much choice...There's a 50% chance that the embryo will turn male, so well, better learn to live with us useless beings!

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posted June 30, 2007 09:27 PM

sigh

I knew who made this thread as soon as I saw the title...
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posted June 30, 2007 09:38 PM

Opps, your right it should be Other side. Well the mods will fix that.  

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posted June 30, 2007 09:40 PM

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I knew who made this thread as soon as I saw the title...


What does that mean Bak???

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posted June 30, 2007 09:47 PM

men, are they needed?

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posted June 30, 2007 09:58 PM

one step beyond feminism... global patricide!
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posted June 30, 2007 10:39 PM

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What does that mean Bak???

I was just trying to hide the fact that I actually missed your senseless yet entertaining feminism around
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posted June 30, 2007 11:50 PM

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I was just trying to hide the fact that I actually missed your senseless yet entertaining feminism around


That's the closest to an 'I love you' you're ever going to get.

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posted July 01, 2007 12:00 AM

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men, are they needed?


lol, FoG ownage ftw
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Aculias
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posted July 01, 2007 01:39 AM

Sorry but women wouldnt survive without men & our manly charms.

Even the Celts,Amazones & the likes raped thier men for baby gals .
Any boys were killed off.
After they had thier way with the men.
They kill them too.
Man at least they died happy

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posted July 01, 2007 01:49 AM

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What does that mean Bak???

I was just trying to hide the fact that I actually missed your senseless yet entertaining feminism around


Well I miss you too. To be honest the Gootch will tell you that I hate my own gender most of the time. And trust me I love men and by no means want them gone

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Aculias
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posted July 01, 2007 01:50 AM

Nowadays it seems women get along with men more.
They have a hard time trusting women & always tend to have some argument lol.
Men are funner to talk with I agree.

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posted July 01, 2007 01:54 AM

Yes I agree I have all male friends that I play pool with, ride with, work on cars with, and anything else that seems remotely fun. Women have no fun interest, and I never took obsessive snowing up in school so I have a hard time relating to that.

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posted July 01, 2007 02:00 AM

Yea we do the same & some women join but most just would rather talk with each other about thier BF's.
You know the whole going to the bathroom talk & all.
While us guys (few women) Play pool,poker,darts you name it we got alot to do at our house
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