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posted July 20, 2007 12:57 AM |
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@T2 that still wont work,each person has it own way of doing stuff,wht if its too differnt?
@firgon,yes sir! 
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posted July 20, 2007 01:12 AM |
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@Firgon
Nive work , too fast . Wait for new monsters from u
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posted July 20, 2007 04:20 PM |
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baklava
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posted July 21, 2007 03:10 PM |
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Hey, this is good... I've been thinking to try to revive Asheron's project but seeing the complete team migrated here I could just hop in too...
Anyway, is this going to be just a second upgrade patch, or are you going to put in some of those cute accessories too? (like spell chants, new hero/skill pictures, new maps/campaign, perhaps the new magic system, dwarven faction and stuff) Cause I've got a complete (and rather complex) campaign idea worked out plus other stuff we did. Can't hurt, right?
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posted July 21, 2007 03:36 PM |
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Sounds good to me, but it's Antipaladin's call.
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antipaladin
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posted July 21, 2007 04:04 PM |
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there is nothing wrong at new compegine and ballony stuff like that,just lemme look atm first k?
i would like you to work on some of ur creatures rather,baklavskie the first,i mean you had so much good ideas..
edit: if i take all the nutural monsters away,would i be able to creat might and magic commenders for each castle? as in add a commander per faction? i would also consider chaning conflux into dwarven faction,or,take it at all,since conflux sucks 
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posted July 21, 2007 04:13 PM |
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edit: if i take all the nutural monsters away,would i be able to creat might and magic commenders for each castle?
Yes. I think it would require some hard coding though, or some really elaborate scripting.
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i would also consider chaning conflux into dwarven faction,or,take it at all,since conflux sucks
A good idea, but I don't think we should get TOO ambitious.
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baklava
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posted July 22, 2007 12:59 AM |
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if i take all the nutural monsters away,would i be able to creat might and magic commenders for each castle?
Probably. But take away the sharpshooters and boar riders and I will personally see to your long, painful and probably sodomy-involving death. 
The smiley at the end of that sentence gives it a special dose of horror...
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there is nothing wrong at new compegine and ballony stuff like that,just lemme look atm first k?
i would like you to work on some of ur creatures rather,baklavskie the first,i mean you had so much good ideas..
*sigh* Very well, my ever so materialist friend. First I'll bribe you with those dwarven spellcasters you asked from me, that should buy me some of your oh so precious time so that you can check out the campaign.
The pics are a bit blurry since I reformatted them to post them easier. These are just ideas anyway, you'll get the point.
Earth Priest:
Earth Episcope:
Or if you prefer without the cape:
If you meant to include it as the dwarven commander unit, I recommend using the upgraded version... But I reckon you'll figure that out on your own.
Now. The campaign. I'll post the supposed time/storyline first, so that you understand what the campaigns themselves are all about.
This is the version with split dwarven and elven factions. I can reunite them if the dwarven town idea is dropped, of course. No biggie.
~After the defeat of the old demon lord (featured in the Restoration or Erathia; Lucifer, as I recall), his brother Beelzebub overthrows him and comes to power.
~Since the infernal forces start rising again, though rather secretly, cultists and heretics start appearing in human lands again.
~An overzealous Church leader founds the Inquisition and proclaims himself High Inquisitor of the Realms of Light. A brutal yet not too efficient policy of extermination is brought, and every citizen or peasant trembles in fear and terror the Inquisition maintains at a huge cost in human lives.
~Anguished by the acts of the Church, the Angels start disappearing mysteriously, leaving huge gasps in the Empire's defence. The Inquisition fails to comprehend the error of its ways. Despite that, its political and military power keeps growing.
~The King of the Empire decides to act against the Inquisition despite the possible consequences, and bans it as an institution, forbidding burnings at stake and other inquisitorial interrogational means by law.
~The High Inquisitor stages a coup against the king, breaking into the palace with his minions and murdering the entire royal family, except the king's youngest son, Carden, who manages to flee to the neighbouring wizard lands.
~The High Inquisitor proclaims himself the Sovereign of the Empire.
~Fearing the power among the people prince Carden might have if he returns, threatens the wizards with war should they refuse to hand over the prince.
~In the wizard libraries, Carden learns of a mythological ancient artefact which grants its wielder untold, but undescribed power, lying in a forgotten mausoleum in the muddy mountains of the Lizardman swamps. Understanding it's his only hope, Carden embarks on a quest to find the mysterious item.
~An archwizard, a close friend of the late King of the human Empire, gives the prince some troops and sends him away quickly, before the authorities could catch him and turn him over to the Inquisition.
~The High Inquisitor finds out about this and, proclaiming the lizardmen heretics and heathens, launches a crusade at them.
~In the meantime, the rising armies of Beelzebub ally themselves with the Dungeon Overlords, and together they manage to subdue most of the orc tribes to their cause - through diplomacy or force.
~The combined armies of Dungeon and Stronghold invade the Rampart lands with demon help. Outnumbered and surprised, Rampart splits - Dwarves pull back to their ancient mountain forts in the north to fortify and regroup, while the elves decide they cannot leave their forests and resort to renegade, guerilla warfare.
~Back at the prince - he arrives at the Lizardman swamps and offers his help against the approaching crusaders to the Lizard King, seeking help in finding the ancient artefact in return. The Lizard King agrees, and Carden succeeds in repelling the first Crusader army, using combined wizard and Lizardman forces.
~The Lizard King warns Carden that until now it was considered that no power is worth the peril that awaits at the journey to the forgotten mausoleum, but realizes they have no choice. He commands his best and most loyal witch, Brannah, to help Carden in his quest.
~With Lizardmen help, the prince tries to find the mausoleum in an area it was widely considered that it lays in. He has very little time because of the ongoing crusader armies, but finally finds it, goes through the underground caves it led to and defeats the undead guardians rising everywhere around him. Raising the artefact, he sees that all the undead he defeated, and more, start getting back to life and raising from the ground, turning towards him. Just when he lost about all hope, the undead lay their arms and kneel before him. The king the tomb was built for also raises from his sarcophagus as undead and pledges allegiance to Carden's cause.
~With the undead and lizardmen by his side, Carden defeats the crusaders that were bound to conquer the Lizardman swamps and rides back into the Empire, liberating its people and executing the High Inquisitor. After that, Carden is proclaimed King of the Empire and gains full control over its forces.
~Mostly seeing the happenings at the Empire as discord and rumble, the demonic alliance, figuring it conquered the elven forests, starts marching toward the dwarven forts in the north. Beelzebub himself takes the lead of the conquering armies.
~Seeing the demonic threat rising and conquering not too far away, Carden allies with the wizards to help their defeated neighbours. Now, Carden, Brannah, the Undead King and the archwizards, all with their armies, liberates the elven forests from the enemy, defeats the Dungeon Overlords stationed there and most of the orc tribes, freed from the yoke of the Dungeon, also joins them. But Beelzebub's might is huge indeed, and he starts sieging the dwarven forts. Dwarves, unaware of the happenings in the south, prepare to sell their lives as expensive as they can.
~The armies of Carden's alliance approach Beelzebub's forces, but are discouraged, seeing how vast his power is. However, about that point, the Angels start descending from the sky as Seraphim, empowered and revitalized by celestial energies and heavenly magic. Encouraged, Carden's alliance charges, along with the dwarves, joyful that aid has come. Together, they completely defeat Beelzebub's forces, and he is banished back to the pits of Hell to face his vengeful brother whose throne he stole.
~And, well, they all live happily ever after...
There is a few cliches but I had to put some in order to implement every single faction in the campaign.
Now, for the campaigns themselves, I was thinking there can be 6 of them (first, those with number 1 are available, then those with number 2 and then campaigns 3 and 4 are unlocked one after another):
1) The Escape from Madness - At the side of Carden - fleeing the inquisitorial forces and saving the prince's life at all costs
1) The Forging of Hell - At the side of Beelzebub - submitting rebellious Dungeon Overlords and Orc Tribes to your cause by force
2) Paragon Prince - At the side of Carden - protecting Lizardmen from the Crusaders and finding the necromantic artefact
2) Flames of Conquest - At the side of Beelzebub - defeating Rampart and conquering the elven lands
3) The March of Destiny - At the side of Carden - regaining rule over Haven, liberating the elves
4) Scourge of Vengeance - Also at the side of Carden - helping the dwarves, defeating Beelzebub
It can be done, nothing too hard, and it could prove interesting. What do you say? Assuming you read it all...
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posted July 22, 2007 01:22 AM |
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Kickass dwarves, and nice campaign structure, but I think we should take it away from Erathia and plonk it into some other pre-fabricated fantasy world, so as not to trip ourselves up on the long, convulted (yet legendary) Might and Magic history.
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posted July 22, 2007 07:58 AM |
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baklava...dude...this campaign just ROCKS!
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baklava
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posted July 22, 2007 09:47 AM |
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Thanks people... About the new world, that's fine with me, as long as I get to make the maps - but the problem will be the in-game campaign maps. We can't make new ones, right? So we'll have to make it rather similar to Erathia in some aspects...
Anyways, I've been thinking to make a music pack to go with this (it could be downloaded from the site separately, so it's completely optional whether you use it or not). Making music packs is an easy, though kinda long process. It shouldn't be a problem. We can even make more music packs, with different types of music - just suggest what songs you'd like to put in. It would certainly add some innovation and variety, for a relatively low cost in effort.
Ok, so, here's the Rock/Metal pack suggestion (it's a bit different then what I suggested in Asheron's project):
Haven - Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
Inferno - Highway to Hell - AC/DC
Dungeon - Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Fortress - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns&Roses
Stronghold - Born to be Wild - Status Quo
Dwarf - Hall of the Mountain King - Rainbow
Elf - Summertime - Janis Joplin
Wizard - House of the Rising Sun - The Animals
Necropolis - Children of the Damned - Iron Maiden
Combat 1 - Kill the King - Rainbow
Combat 2 - Fight Song - Marilyn Manson
Combat 3 - Rebel Yell - Billy Idol
Combat 4 - BYOB - System of a Down
The Escape from Madness campaign - Master of Insanity - Black Sabbath
The Forging of Hell campaign - Hellraiser - Motorhead
Paragon Prince campaign - Sweet Dreams (are made of these) - Marilyn Manson
Flames of Conquest campaign - Hell's Bells - AC/DC
The March of Destiny campaign - Seven Nation Army - The White Stripes
Scourge of Vengeance campaign - here I thought to put Devil's Dance - Metallica, but perhaps it's not famous enough for the final song in the campaign... So, any other ideas?
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antipaladin
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posted July 22, 2007 10:47 AM |
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congrads bak,that rules!
make all frames for the dwarfs,both,a commander will be differnt, we'll think of it,c'man work on dwarfs!
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baklava
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posted July 22, 2007 11:45 AM |
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make all frames for the dwarfs
...that's what I was afraid of
Even if I remember how I made them it will still take like 10 weeks...
But otherwise it wouldn't be a challenge, would it?
Just, do you want the episcope with or without the cape?
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antipaladin
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posted July 22, 2007 11:56 AM |
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yeah well,what ever you prefer.
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posted July 23, 2007 05:48 AM |
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Sorry i got some problem with my Internet so i cant on9 2 days , now i back . Antipaladin how can i send u all missing frames of Goblin Knight and Troll Guard ? By MSN or HCM
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antipaladin
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posted July 23, 2007 07:16 AM |
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host it and link me in hcm
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T2_2112
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posted July 23, 2007 06:10 PM |
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@Antipaladin
I send it for u now
@All
When i saw this AWESOME pic , i know one thing : no need to create too much diffence monster , we can improve the existing but must do this with all u heart. BTW any one know how to create some good like this pls tell me , i want create something like this
Blood Dragon
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antipaladin
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posted July 23, 2007 09:13 PM |
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nothing specile in this work im afride..
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posted July 24, 2007 09:38 AM |
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I like very much this blood dragon
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baklava
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posted July 24, 2007 10:08 AM |
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nothing specile in this work im afride..
Dude, it's great. Let me see you make a better one
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