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Thread: Chris benoit toxicology is in....
Setitetart
Setitetart


Known Hero
Reality check....
posted July 22, 2007 05:19 AM

Chris benoit toxicology is in....

The Chris Benoit murder/suicide case…

I have to tell you, the more I hear on this topic, and the more I just think…OMG
This man was so very human, but succumbed to the dire events in his life.
I truly think he felt like he had no options, that he was trapped somehow.

Does that make any sense?

Chris Benoit…one more in a very long list of deaths in the WWF.

104 wrestlers under the age of 65 years old that have died in the last 10 years.
That in and of itself is a hard statistic to swallow.
but I will get to that in a minute…

You begin to ask questions, and then you look at this tragic end, the swan song that is Chris Benoit and you have mountains of questions and no solid answers.
And for the most part, I don't honestly believe that ANYone ever really WILL have the answers.

You don't have to be a fan of wrestling to ask how this happened, to ask WHY this could have happened.
You don't have to be a fan of wrestling to understand human fragility, and feeling like the weight of the very world is on your shoulders.

At least some of the toxicology reports are in on the Benoit family, but that the investigators are keeping quiet until the rest of the results are in and they have had a chance to look into them.

A lot of people said the "roid rage" was the issue, and I said "nay" even when all of this started coming out.
They found that he had 10 times the normal amount of testosterone in his system, probably injected before he died.
His wife was sedated with xanax and over the legal Alabama drunk limit.
His son was also sedated....

I think that he fought with his wife, whether that was because of their son's condition, or the insurance policy in question, or that he was on the road too much, or whatever the case was that brought them to the fight that ultimately ended the Benoit family.
Those things took a turn for the worst, and in that out-of-control moment, he killed her.
Seeing that he'd taken her life I believe that he panicked…
Because of his son.
He knew at that point that he was literally up the creek. That he would be thrown in jail for murdering his wife, even if it might have been an accident, and that someone else would be taking care of his son and that for the rest of his life, he'd be forced to visit with his son through the glass at a jail.

I believe he was trying to reach out in some way with the bizarre texts, maybe hoping that someone would have picked them up and tried to stop him?

And when nothing came through…
In that thought he decided to finish the job so to speak, and took his son's life as well, then took his own life because he couldn't deal with what he'd done.

I really think that this is the case in a nutshell.

The whole thing is unfortunate.
Truly sad.

Benoit's career, history and legacy are all but gone, even the WWE erasing all things related to Benoit off their sites.
Nancy and Daniel Benoit's lives cut short.
A shell of a man hanging lifeless in his basement.
And all for…

For what?

A disagreement?
Something more?

In the face of this horrible tragedy I'd like to ask what, if anything, that the WWE provides to its wrestler's in the way of counseling.

On "Larry King Live" the other night they had a panel of some of the wrestlers, and people who knew Benoit personally to answer some questions and discuss the tragedy.
There was a point where you could send in your questions and I wrote in this question:


Question to Larry King Live guests 07-09-2007:


"First, just let me say hello to each and every one of you...

I have been watching pro wrestling since the early 80's, and I watched many of you through the years...

(My son has a picture with Bret )


In the recent events of Christ Benoit's tragic end I find myself asking the same questions many of you are right now.

Shaking my head in disbelief and asking why and how this could have happened.

The difference is that I didn't meet him or know him personally...part of me knows that this was not entirely him (even the best people under incredible strain do things that are out of character) and I refuse to believe that steroids were the main reason he felt he had to do this.

But the other half of me is revolted that in his anguish he not only didn't reach out for help from someone...anyone, but he also drug his wife and child into his final solution.

My question is this....I understand that the WWE has a drug wellness program and random testing for ALL drugs, but what do they really do for psychological well being and offering help in the way of seeing to the wrestler and his or her families well being in that area?

Is there any such thing as an "open door policy" that would allow a wrestler or someone in his or her family to seek help if they felt they had drug problems, issues with domestic abuse, or even financial, mental, spiritual, and physical issues?

How supportive to its wrestler's in those areas, ARE the WWE really?

Because you have to admit that losing (at last count) 104 wrestlers under the age of 50 years old in the last 10 years is an eye-opening, very horrible, statistic...

Many of which, I felt, could have been prevented.

I love you guys, and I still watch you whenever I can.

I wish all of you continued health and success."



And now those statistics that state that 104 wrestlers under the age of 50 years old have died in the last 10 years…

Can we say WOW?

How did this fly under the radar folks?

Granted some of those deaths were not related to drugs or steroids or other abnormal situations such as Junkyard Dog's demise due to a car accident.

BUT

You can't ignore the main meat of those statistics, and not think WTFF is going on?
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that something is not right in the WWE arena.

So I ask you this now….

Who is to blame?

Vince McMahon?
The wrestler's themselves?
The Dr's that willingly prescribe ridiculous amounts of drugs to the wrestlers?

Who?

Let's discuss this…I am eager to hear what people have to say, wrestling fans or not, it makes no difference to me.

If you've read the many news articles out there, what do you think about them?
How do you feel that the Atlanta police handled or are handling now this investigation?
Do you believe that there is another unnamed person to blame and that this murder/suicide is really just a homicide?

Let's hear what you think.


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~ Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral

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violent_flower
violent_flower


Promising
Supreme Hero
Almost there.
posted July 22, 2007 05:33 AM

Freaks, men are offing their wives and children like they just sat down to have a class of tea. It is all over the news, cogging up the airwaves and telling us, WAKEUP PEOPLE!

Women are driving our men to slay us in the middle of the night. Deal with funeral arrangements or a snowy wife that tries to control your every move and will make it impossible for you to ever live in peace, with or without her.

The children shall be spared of this, and the man could walk away leaving everything that he has ever worked for to the women that hates him. But what the hell just take her out and introduce her to your little friend.

Seriously, this is awful but I have a feeling that there out underline issues that you or I could never understand. It is not right that they do this, but when pushed in a corner some feel as though the world is falling on them.

Good post my little sweet tart...

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setitetart
setitetart


Known Hero
Reality check....
posted July 24, 2007 08:13 AM

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Seriously, this is awful but I have a feeling that there out underline issues that you or I could never understand. It is not right that they do this, but when pushed in a corner some feel as though the world is falling on them.


Agreed wholeheartedly.

That is exactly what I said when i saw that picture of him taken in the Dr's office before he went home and started the spree.
He didn't look roided out...he looked like the weight of the very world was on top of him and he looked so tired.

Just-so-tired.



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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted July 24, 2007 08:30 AM

I didn't even know Chris Benoit was dead! Crazy. It's not that long ago when that other wrestler died in overdose (Eddy). I don't follow wrestling anymore but it was entertaining few years back.

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Trogdor
Trogdor


Legendary Hero
Words in a custom title
posted July 24, 2007 10:01 AM

The real reason I believe is that the psyche of these wrestlers can be changed dramatically with injections prescribed by their doctors and thus their madness in-ring becomes madness in reality. I remember recently that CM Punk from ECW gained a lot of popularity because he abstained from drugs, alcohol, tobacco, anything that was considered a mind-altering substance, and that his only addictions were competition and wrestling. Perhaps if these wrestlers followed CM Punk's example these instances just wouldn't happen.
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setitetart
setitetart


Known Hero
Reality check....
posted July 24, 2007 10:11 AM

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I didn't even know Chris Benoit was dead! Crazy. It's not that long ago when that other wrestler died in overdose (Eddy). I don't follow wrestling anymore but it was entertaining few years back.


Oh yes. Quite dead. And extremly crazy to say the very least.
Yeah I remember Eddy as well...the week before Benoit died, Sherri Martel died and then ANOTHER one just died this last Wednesday???

Seriously. Its a mess.

I still catch wrestling when I can, and it is still as entertaining.
Probably could use a little more of the over the top personalities that made the early wrestling so fun...but still a great time nonetheless. LOL
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setitetart
setitetart


Known Hero
Reality check....
posted July 24, 2007 10:13 AM

Quote:
The real reason I believe is that the psyche of these wrestlers can be changed dramatically with injections prescribed by their doctors and thus their madness in-ring becomes madness in reality. I remember recently that CM Punk from ECW gained a lot of popularity because he abstained from drugs, alcohol, tobacco, anything that was considered a mind-altering substance, and that his only addictions were competition and wrestling. Perhaps if these wrestlers followed CM Punk's example these instances just wouldn't happen.


I agree with that.
I would be willing to bet that if CM Punk's move was copied, there wouldnt the issues there are.
And for the issues that still remained, they couldnt pin it to anything drug related which would be nice.
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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted July 24, 2007 09:30 PM
Edited by Homer171 at 21:32, 24 Jul 2007.

Quote:
Probably could use a little more of the over the top personalities that made the early wrestling so fun


They should make more legends and forget those "what was his name Carlitos" My favorite has always been the dead man the Undertaker. They should forget the acting it's horrible like watching The Days of Our Lives

"They don't make them like they used to" <- Same whit everything really. Downloaded some legendary Taker matches while back and i liked "the good old stuff" from the 90s.

Some of those wrestlers just quit. Rock was big name back then but he managed to change his () face to Box Office. Brock Lesnar left suddenly aswell. Rattle Snake Stone Cold Steve Austin retired after show came retarded. Times have changed or i have just grown over it.

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Setitetart
Setitetart


Known Hero
Reality check....
posted July 26, 2007 06:06 AM

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Quote:
Probably could use a little more of the over the top personalities that made the early wrestling so fun


They should make more legends and forget those "what was his name Carlitos" My favorite has always been the dead man the Undertaker. They should forget the acting it's horrible like watching The Days of Our Lives

"They don't make them like they used to" <- Same whit everything really. Downloaded some legendary Taker matches while back and i liked "the good old stuff" from the 90s.

Some of those wrestlers just quit. Rock was big name back then but he managed to change his () face to Box Office. Brock Lesnar left suddenly aswell. Rattle Snake Stone Cold Steve Austin retired after show came retarded. Times have changed or i have just grown over it.


Carlitos Colon?
...yeah. *blah to him* LOL
Taker is my favorite as well, next to Jeff Hardy and don't you DARE laugh at me for liking HIM. LOL

Oh come on now, the acting has always been horrible, and that was part of wht made it so damn funny...we knew that then and STILL watched and it would be that exactly...a man's soap yes?

The 90's matches were AWESOME. LOL

I don't blame some of the guys for leaving...I would too if all my co-workers were dropping dead of massive heart attacks and drug overdoses.
Wouldn't you?

Brock left? When? Do you know why?

Stone Cold as I heard it COULDN'T wrestle anymore due to his injuries and whatnot.

Did you know Dibiase is a minister now?

And Paul Bearer wrote me back *YAY*

Times have changed, but I still havent grown tired of watching when I can....but I think the WWE is in for some HUGE changes and McMahon is going to have to pony up.

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Aculias
Aculias


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted July 26, 2007 06:08 AM

Brock left to sign up for NFL football.
Unfortunately it did not work out
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