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friendofgunnar
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posted July 24, 2007 10:09 PM

I think OSM should be banned.

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alcibiades
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posted July 24, 2007 10:52 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 22:54, 24 Jul 2007.

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I did not even use swear words. You have to have a stellar imagination one here when writing because the COC is so tight.

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If a mod is going to come into a thread half way into it and start assuming that the troublemaker is lets say, me, then out of respect please read the entire thread as a whole. There was a recent –QP given, by the looks of the thread you would have thought that I deserved it, when in fact it took a mod to go back several pages to find the attacker and award the proper –qp. This could have been avoided by carefully reading the posts.


I'm sorry, but I feel I need to address these two statements.

@ #1: Some people seem to take the COC as something that's only about which words you use. It's not. Whether you say "You're an idiot" or put it more subtly doesn't really make a difference. The problem is not the use of a specific word like here "idiot". The problem is with the message conveyed by the post. I've seen posts made apparantly without the eye for this distinction.

@ #2: There seems to be some assumption that just because someone launches at you with a post which might be worthy of a Penalty, that means you're allowed to do the same in return. Well, that's not really the case. If someone makes a personal attack, either ignore the person and let those assigned to that deal with it, or leave a remark stating your fealings about the case without delivering a counter attack.
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The_Gootch
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posted July 24, 2007 11:00 PM
Edited by The_Gootch at 23:06, 24 Jul 2007.

You know, I have told her before, I'm sure, that refs have a hard time spotting the original infraction.  You hear that during basketball games especially. And if I were to ever watch hockey, I'm sure I'd hear that a lot as well during broadcasts.

Soccer?  I've never seen so much flopping in all my days.  They all would make Vlade Divac proud.

So, the best way to avoid the whistle blown by the official is to throw the first elbow.

Right?

As for the lot of you worried that I might seriously call for your ban, ppbbtthh, .  As if I had that much pull.  I, if you recall, was not elected Mr. Heroes Community.  Second place never gets that kind of authority.


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violent_flower
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posted July 24, 2007 11:45 PM

Yep ALC I got it already, now can I be excused as it is nap time in kindergarden class and my teacher is calling..

Curls up while sucking my thumb.........

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pandora
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posted July 25, 2007 12:19 AM

*ahem*

Moving along:

With regards to QP's in the OSM - it's been mentioned that there aren't enough. Which is mostly because you guys have been behaving so badly that you just don't deserve them *grin*

OK, seriously.. there have been some really good posts - I generally don't award too many QP's when threads are super active - unless they truly knock my socks off. That is in part because I find it tends to change the flow of the thread - people will tend to copy posts, or ideas behind posts that get QP's, or people(QP hunters)start posting contrived drivel in the thread to try to get some QP's of their own. That's just my thinking though

Plus I prefer to imagine that people are posting here because they love the conversation, not in hopes of getting some stars.

Of course, that can change if it's what people want.
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 01:45 AM

You guys never understand what I say .

For one ALCY You like the gay thread !!!

Oh Binabic you are like everyone else.
If people have feelings on here then we have no life outside of the net.
People need to know thats untrue & Pandasia has more of a life then many i know.

Yea I know Flower has a temper.
She attacks ANYONE no matter who it is who disagrees with her or did wrong to others.
It's still fun getting on her %$# from time to time when i see her attacking people I really care about on here lol.
We usually hug after though

HC changes all the time.People are crying over the recent changes.
I say bring it on & if you can not handle it, then leave it & read the Cinderella threads

Alcy the line is usually crossed when it comes to disagreements on religion.
It's a serious topic usually.
Many will know Shadey was right in the most part but also wrong in the parts that can make people mad at him.
Shadey has that egg people on to push thier buttons kind of replies.
You know how the lady's are .
I agree there should be a mod reading what goes on because with the women you can expect some action .
Dont mean you have to always be there live constantly, the posts are going no where. It will be read eventually.
I disagree Alcy.
You just being like a babysitter so to speak.
Sometimes you need to let people speak out.
It's a debate it gets heated.
If someone crosses the line then do your job.
Otherwise dont be like how Sox was when he modded in the tavern & act like a 24/7 police officer.

Now Angelito how the heck do you know if people are not being themselves?
Just incinuating. Just because it is not all kiddy kids tag in here it dont mean they are not how they are.
I do agree that respect is lost recently.
I think desspising is the word.
SOmeone makes a comment or hurts one of your friends & they get so disrespected it's unreal.
I rarely disrespected anyone since I been here.
A select few.
It goes with everyone even the Flower Power .
In general so it goes to everyone who disrespects.
I think Mrs Tart hmmm made some good threads & many others made some good replies. I agree with the QP's.

People is saying it is getting out of control.
I think it's more controlled then yall think.
I seen it alot worst in the past on here.
Sometimes you need to let the people take care of thier business.
You know if you see someone disrespecting then slap on the warning then a -QP.
I can only think of one single person who makes it out of control when it really dont need to.
Not to mention if the mods get in the middle of a debate then it makes it all worst lol.
I know some dont read the coc. I never did & I turned out alright
I dont think many are actually breaking the COC except one person really.
I think yall are just not used to such heated debates.
Also the personal attacks.
Like they say friends run better then strangers
I dont think OSOM will go down the drain as well as the threads will always be there for us adults to read .
It's annoying hearing you Pandasia type about how you dont want to read.
I really dont understand though.There was nothing really to stop. It was not as bad as you think.Besides one person it was just some debate on a really serious topic that gotten deep.
The part that needed modding was after when it gotten deeply personal & many attacks was thrown in Shadeys way.
Uncalled for  but hey what can you do .
You being too hard on yourself.


Tenaka.Who is Tenaka anyways.
Didnt you used to wrestle as some Indian .
I dont think you really said anything that bad & if you did.
Who noticed

Personally Shadey I dont think you need to apologise at all.
You believe in what you believe in.
Yea some of stuff I read about your facts is pure crap to me but thats my opinion as well as some of the others.
You believe it & this is between you & the debaters.
Nothing to apologise for.
As well as anyone else apologising.
FLower your apologising for the wrong reasons & any other person so far.
As far as I see.
No one has done nothing to anyone & then personal attacks because of a debate.
Thats not a debate thats BS.
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 01:46 AM
Edited by Aculias at 02:01, 25 Jul 2007.

Ok now that I had a turn to speak a little bit of my mind, Can i have a doughnut & yall mods better give out some good QP's now

Edit: I forgot to mention about the Gootchy .
Man you always say that & you know you understand because you always say you dont understand but i always type to understand so when you understand then other people can understand to understand what there is to understand because I always type to understand what there is to understand so you can understand SO DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW GOOTCHY!!!!










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Consis
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posted July 25, 2007 05:23 AM
Edited by Consis at 05:24, 25 Jul 2007.

Ewwwww

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I generally don't award too many QP's when threads are super active.

That is why RedSoxFan3's time in office will NOT be forgotten! He only handed out like a million Qp's to get people to participate in his Let's Have War thread. And what happens when he quits modding? He gets like a +20 Qp's! Dude I can't wait to be a moderator!
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 05:35 AM

I think Vals does it to me lol.
The more I despise the mod, the more QP's they get
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pandora
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posted July 25, 2007 07:35 AM

heh, RSF and I may have had a word or two regarding QP's and how they ought to be given *cough*

But that's neither here nor there - is it?

Acu, I really tried to read all your post but it made my eyes swim a bit.

Alc and Angelito both want the same things I've been talking about - I don't know why you see them differently. I'm thrilled that Angelito has joined us here in the Otherside - and Alc does a great job here too. You don't know him as well, so you're reading him wrong.

As for the rest - I agree it wasn't so bad - but i think it was getting there, and I think it was overdue that we step in and do our jobs a little bit better.

Sure I said I was annoyed at reading the threads, its quite often extremely negative - and I found it draining to read through that ALL the time - but I didnt say I was leaving, I said I wanted to fix it.

So there


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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 07:44 AM

I love you too lol
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 07:45 AM

Just misreading what i meant lol.
I think yall just needed to be patient.
It is already getting better see
Yall should kiss me not tear for me
Especially Trapper
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alcibiades
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posted July 25, 2007 08:47 AM

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Alcy the line is usually crossed when it comes to disagreements on religion.
It's a serious topic usually.
(...)
You just being like a babysitter so to speak.
Sometimes you need to let people speak out.
It's a debate it gets heated.


Aculias > I think this sums up pretty much where we disagree. I still believe you can have a serious and even heated debate without the tone going ugly. Maybe that makes me belong in the kindergarten - time past certainly has leaned more towards your point of view, but I still believe that it's possible. Now the challenge will be to find the ballance that will work for all of us.
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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 09:08 AM

You made those Quotes like I was directing insults Trapper hehe.

What i mean is sometimes problems can be corrected when it is talked out.
Sometimes it does not need a person to mediate or ground.
I admit sometimes it does get over heated.
Sometimes problems to get worked out without a Mod always coming to the rescue.
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william
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posted July 25, 2007 09:23 AM

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I generally don't award too many QP's when threads are super active.

That is why RedSoxFan3's time in office will NOT be forgotten! He only handed out like a million Qp's to get people to participate in his Let's Have War thread. And what happens when he quits modding? He gets like a +20 Qp's! Dude I can't wait to be a moderator!



lol, actually RSF had about 30 qps before he became a moderator, since Val didn't hand out any qps to him after he resigned in April.

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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 09:24 AM

OKOK Dont say it I did say it the way it sounds lol.

Oh man I am just shooting myself right in both feet & putting them in my mouth lol.

Trapper you know i loves you lol.
I still think some problems can be worked out on it's own.
If it gets to the point where it can not in your eyes, then I agree.

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pandora
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posted July 25, 2007 09:27 AM

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lol, actually RSF had about 30 qps before he became a moderator, since Val didn't hand out any qps to him after he resigned in April.


Right, cuz he already got a bunch the first time he resigned, Valeriy wasn't going to pile on more...
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posted July 25, 2007 09:28 AM

Yep, otherwise he would have an overload of qps!!!

Just imagine if someone did have about 35 or 40 qps, wow!

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Aculias
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posted July 25, 2007 09:44 AM

I know one mod who got zip points
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posted July 25, 2007 10:04 AM

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You guys never understand what I say .
Wonder why...

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Alcy the line is usually crossed when it comes to disagreements on religion.
It's a serious topic usually.
Every user has his own "ranking" of which topic is important and which not. We as Mods can't just only care about things which are important for a few.....we have to care about any topic.

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You just being like a babysitter so to speak.
Sometimes you need to let people speak out.
It's a debate it gets heated.
If someone crosses the line then do your job.
You are a member for such a long time here Manuel. But it really seems you still didn't notice the difference between "meeting someone on the street" and "meeting someone in someone else' house (HC = Val's house!)". Val made the rules, we all have to follow. period.

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Now Angelito how the heck do you know if people are not being themselves?
Just incinuating. Just because it is not all kiddy kids tag in here it dont mean they are not how they are.
Read my post again Manuel. "I would love to see everyone acting like in real life..." doesn't mean "I haven't seen anyone here acting like in real life...".

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SOmeone makes a comment or hurts one of your friends & they get so disrespected it's unreal.
I rarely disrespected anyone since I been here.
This is a contradiction in one post...look what u write in this same post some lines to the bottom:
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Tenaka.Who is Tenaka anyways.
Didnt you used to wrestle as some Indian ...
I don't know for sure, but for me, these lines are nothing else but disrespect to a member you don't know nothing about. Am I wrong??

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Thats not a debate thats BS.
Personal point of view...that's ok.
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