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Tenaka
Tenaka


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Makes sense
posted August 09, 2007 06:02 PM

Yeah, I might have been a bit harsh, and that may have been a bit personal...I might be little pissed at LiZaRdMeN because of one of his posts...

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And yeah, I maye have to add that the first part is just completely my personal opinion...I'll edit that.

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Daystar
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Back from the Dead
posted August 09, 2007 06:25 PM

I know, that annoyed me so so so so much!!

Also, I think since we know the layout for HV, and that it will end on september 28, that we should assume all posted factions are for H-VI.
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Tenaka
Tenaka


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Makes sense
posted August 09, 2007 06:33 PM

Well, I think the use of these kind of threads has changed. They're no longer really 'suggestions' hof HV (or HVI), but more used for expressing creativity....This isn't on-topic, though, so let's only comment on Lizardmen's faction.

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LiZaRdMeN
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posted August 09, 2007 06:33 PM

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First of all, there's the werewolf concept problem. Werewolves in HOMM...Well, personally, I don't like them. They just don't...fit in in Ashan. But, I suppose adding one creature for the die-hard fans...I could live with that...But, a whole TOWN?! That's just...absurd. If werewolves get their own town and civilasation, they should be the center of the game...

I think this is a matter of opinion. I sort of agree with you. I think that Werewolves has a place in HOMM5 only as a single neutral creature, but they might fit into HOMM6, and maybe that's his intention.

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If that makes sense. Then the history...Oldest creatures of Ashan? Alright, just as old as dragons...AS OLD AS DRAGONS? The concept here is also a bit lacking...Where did they come from?

I agree with you here. They just can't come before the humans and the Wolves.
Werewolves are basicly, humans combined with Wolves, only basicly.
If you don't have humans and don't have wolves how can you have Werewolves?

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How did the dragons react to  them, etc, etc. It's also a bit incomplete and undetailed, but you're still working on it, I guess...Before we continue to the creatures, the name rampant sounds a lot like the H3 rampart, by the way. What it means is the following:
rampant: standing on left hind foot, other feet raised to fight; this is the most frequent position for lions and the like, typically omitted in early blazon.
Well, I don't know if the name just popped into your head, or if you really knew what it meant, but I think it's quite fitting.

Haha, I didn't even notice. I thought it's Rampart.


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On to the creatures:

Well, the creatures are just completely imbalanced.
Just look at the Tier 1 creature: The wolves. I personally hate the idea on itself. Dark wolves, dragon wolves? Sounds a bit...far-fetched. It's also pretty obvious that they're not as strong as devils.
The statistics? Well...We already have a low growth, uber creature. The assasin. This'll seriously screw the faction over...A growth of 5, a cost of 300 (upgrade 400)?! Some stats actually surpass the original neutral creatures, who are tier 4. And, well, the growth is just plain...too low for a Tier 1.
Luckily, there are some imbalanced abilities to make up for this! 'Howl' alone makes you want to have this creature! It gives your army at least a +1 morale, and the enemy at least 0! Waw! It's stronger than a lot of artifacts! And a 35% magic resistance!
...In other words, I'm not a big fan of it...
Suggestions: Raise the growth, lower the cost and stats, and balance the abilities.
Tier 2:
Well, the idea of an all attacking unit is of course nice...Not original, but nice. Too bad it's imbalanced...again. The attack is way too high! It's higher than a Tier 4's! And well, you can't survive without defence, and a good amount of hp. They'll be down at the first shot. Yes, shot. Archers'll use 'em for target practice...The ability is pretty much overpowered, too. But I guess, since it'll never really reach the enemy lines...It's not fair for creeping, tough...
But the negative parts of the rogue are all wiped away with the upgrade! It can stay invisible for as long as it wants, until it attacks! That's ridiculous, I'm afraid. It can't stay invisible forever...Two turns, maybe, to reach the enemy...They'll die afterwards, anyway.
Suggestions: If you really want to keep it, again, raise the growth and cost so it's higher than the Tier 1 (the current growth is just plain absurd), balance defence and attack out, and balance the skills as well. Limit them to a certain turns of the of the combat, instead of forever.
Tier 3. Well, this is a bit more balanced, I guess...Lower the defence and damage a liiiittle bit, maybe? Oh, and raise the growth...It's still the same as the Tier 1 creature. It had the same ability as Tier 2, so it also has to be balanced.
The tier 4 seems alright, except that's it's again a werewolf. And I have my doubts about lay hands...But it's not completely done yet, so I can't judge it, really.

In general: You're faction is a bit chaotic. And not only the lay-out. It misses a lot of information - too short history and creature descriptions - and well, the growths, are plain awkward. The stats and abilities need to be revised very well, because now, every creature is pretty much overpowered, I believe.

I completely agree. Good (and maybe a a bit harsh? ) review.

theyl be very owerpowerd if they have more groutgh

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Tenaka
Tenaka


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Makes sense
posted August 09, 2007 06:55 PM
Edited by Tenaka at 19:17, 17 Aug 2007.

Edit: Gee, now what did I just post? I must've been a bit confused at the moment I posted this...(I'm now speaking to you, lizard)
Not really helpful advice:
What I meant: Try to balance the growth and the stats so they make sense. That's all I can say...
And it's spelled 'G-R-O-W-T-H'. Sorry, it's driving me nuts...

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Daystar
Daystar


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Back from the Dead
posted August 17, 2007 10:10 PM

Liz, where are you from?
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Tenaka
Tenaka


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Makes sense
posted August 17, 2007 10:12 PM

Now, if you would take the effort to check his profile...You'd know he lives in Bulgaria.

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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


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posted August 26, 2007 06:21 AM
Edited by roy-algriffin at 06:22, 26 Aug 2007.

the plains of reaner are in bulgaria? .. i wish hed have been a bit Less specific
PS-congratulations on 2222 posts daystar
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Back from the Dead
posted August 26, 2007 06:50 AM

Wow, I hadn't noticed.  I remeber when I worked hard to get this faction suggestion done for my 1111 post.
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