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emilsn
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posted August 12, 2007 11:52 PM |
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And of course, everyone ignores my post... 
Let me answer it . You forgot one thing, when you have 500+ of gremlings to destroy Delebs balistar its late game or middle and its not that dangerous again . So just stick to repair guys 
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Homer171
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Supreme Hero
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posted August 13, 2007 08:38 AM |
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My favorites in the Dungeon:
lv1: Stalker whit Invisibility ability is easy choice. Nice all around statics boost compared to somewhat useless range ability, whats there is to think?
lv2: Blood Fury are better. +2 initiative and +0.5 average damage are better than +5 health and +1 Def. Blood Witches still die on first strike in late game you know.
lv3: Minotaur Captain all the way! Slow Guards don't benefit from their Double Attack as much as they should. Better health, defense, initiative and special sure makes Captains a better choice. Finally creature what deserves to be in my army right next to my Dragons and Raiders
lv4: Grim Raiders are excellent and how cool Black Riders Ride by Attack may sound it's not as good as Grim Raiders special.
lv5: Teleport Assault whit Acidic Hydras sure sounds tempting but still i fell that Deep Hydras are bit better tank creatures and i will probably go whit them mostly.
lv6: I think Shadow Mistress are very weak melee fighters but if Invisibility proves to be as useful as it seems they can be range creature abusers (5 speed is still pathetic). I probably select Mistress over Matriarch more often but comparing creatures such as Wraiths to Shadow Mistresses sure makes you think they are pretty weak.
lv7: Unfortunate Magic Immunity of Black Dragons aren't as useful as it used to be (or is it?). Red Dragons whit Incinerate and +1 initiative sure seems better choice. Reddies aren't that good vs magic users tough. Puppet Masters and all other fear full spells comes in mind. All in all. I take Red Dragons vs Might fanctions any day but i can consider twice playing vs Academy or Necropolis.
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
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posted August 13, 2007 09:33 AM |
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lol u choose the alternates for all factions except fortress  ,AND HAVEN ARE NOT WEAK SUCKERS ,they're better than fortress atleast
okay let's make a compare
level 1 with upgrade
shieldguards have higher initiative,same speed and damage,twice more hp,five times better defence,so put your hands up for SHIELDGUARDS
level 2 with upgrade
Marksmen have great specialty,more shots and damage,most of the stats are the same,and this time the winner is marksmen
level 3 with upgrade
hahahahaBlackbbear riders have awesome abiliti,more hp,more defence,more atck,more initiative,more damage,so put your hands up for BLACKBEARRIDERS
LEVEL 4 WITH UPGRADE
iMPREIAL GRIIFINS ARE more powerful,because of their higher stats
level 5 with upgrade
rune patriarch have higher damage,lowerinitiative,def. and atck,but the specialtys are awesome: mark of fire can nark the inwuisitor,ad the fire wall will deal higher damge,the patriarch can cast deflect missle on him,and that will make him more resistant to range atck and crossfire is the greatest abiliti for a shoother,so put your for RUNEPATRIARCH
level 6 with upgrade
hmm,tough one indeed,most of the players say that the warlord have horrible damage,and paladins are way better,but that's not true,i have seen how large stacks of warlords have destroyed armies within a single blow ,that advantage make warlord one of the strongestlevel 6[with treants,kshatrys and wyverns]and more powefull than the paladin,so put you hands up for the WARLORD
LEVEl 7 WITH UPGRADE:
magmas are better than archangels,because of theire abilities:elemental,magma shield ,fire breath,immuniti to fire.Altrough archangels have good damage,they don't have that powerfull passive ablitie,and the magmas are almost impossible to cast down,because of theyre monstosous defence and hp,so put your hands up for the MAGMA DRAGONS
HAVEN : FORTRES
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 13, 2007 09:45 AM |
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level 6 with upgrade
hmm,tough one indeed,most of the players say that the warlord have horrible damage,and paladins are way better,but that's not true,i have seen how large stacks of warlords have destroyed armies within a single blow ,that advantage make warlord one of the strongestlevel 6[with treants,kshatrys and wyverns]and more powefull than the paladin,so put you hands up for the WARLORD
Well, this is controversial to say the least, but you forget training. You cannot compare Haven vs. Fortress level for level, you should rather do something like:
Lvl 1 vs. lvl 1.
Lvl 2 vs. Lvl 2.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 3.
Lvl 4 vs. Lvl 4.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 5.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 6.
Lvl 7 vs. Lvl 7.
Because Haven effectively will train their level 3 and 5 units into Paladins (on rich maps). And now, suddenly Haven has the upper hand over Fortress level 2, 3, 4, 5 +/- 6 ...
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
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The king of Grimheim
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posted August 13, 2007 10:19 AM |
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level 6 with upgrade
hmm,tough one indeed,most of the players say that the warlord have horrible damage,and paladins are way better,but that's not true,i have seen how large stacks of warlords have destroyed armies within a single blow ,that advantage make warlord one of the strongestlevel 6[with treants,kshatrys and wyverns]and more powefull than the paladin,so put you hands up for the WARLORD
Well, this is controversial to say the least, but you forget training. You cannot compare Haven vs. Fortress level for level, you should rather do something like:
Lvl 1 vs. lvl 1.
Lvl 2 vs. Lvl 2.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 3.
Lvl 4 vs. Lvl 4.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 5.
Lvl 6 vs. Lvl 6.
Lvl 7 vs. Lvl 7.
Because Haven effectively will train their level 3 and 5 units into Paladins (on rich maps). And now, suddenly Haven has the upper hand
over Fortress level 2, 3, 4, 5 +/- 6 ...
  YOU FORGET ABOUT RUNES,THEY'RE more powerfull
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ismail222
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The Cataclysm
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posted August 13, 2007 10:34 AM |
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lol u choose the alternates for all factions except fortress ,AND HAVEN ARE NOT WEAK SUCKERS ,they're better than fortress atleast
level 3 with upgrade
hahahahaBlackbbear riders have awesome abiliti,more hp,more defence,more atck,more initiative,more damage,so put your hands up for BLACKBEARRIDERS
level 6 with upgrade
hmm,tough one indeed,most of the players say that the warlord have horrible damage,and paladins are way better,but that's not true,i have seen how large stacks of warlords have destroyed armies within a single blow ,that advantage make warlord one of the strongestlevel 6[with treants,kshatrys and wyverns]and more powefull than the paladin,so put you hands up for the WARLORD
LEVEl 7 WITH UPGRADE:
magmas are better than archangels,because of theire abilities:elemental,magma shield,fire breath,immuniti to fire.Altrough archangels have good damage,they don't have that powerfull passive ablitie,and the magmas are almost impossible to cast down,because of theyre monstosous defence and hp,so put your hands up for the MAGMA DRAGONS
HAVEN : FORTRES
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Let's start from the lvl 3,u can't be possibly comparing they amazing allies defenders aka : squires to the sucky bear riders,can u???
I know that the riders have better stats in almost everything but squires' ability is alot more useful than riders abilities,for 1 thing it makes ur rune patriarchs toatly useless...
And about the lvl 6....u must be kidding,Why can't u just accept the fact that paladins are the strongest lvl 6 and probably the strongest units in game????just cause u love fortress so much that doesn't mean that everything in fortress has to be the toughest...U can't imagine how much i love dungeen...but i still have to accept that some of dungeon's units become useless at late game and the low growth really sucks,and the frikkin useless minotaurs who can't stand a one attack...
Now,back to the topic,the paladins Vs Warlords..i'll give u the benefit of a medicore map and say that the haven player trains 3 paladins weekly,now the paladins will probably start first since they have 1 higher intiative the paladins will have 3 units more than warlords for every week (maybe not every week since the haven player might not be able to train early...but the paladins will make their attack first and thanx to knights' awesome dmg and the amazing retribution the paladis will hit the warlords and they'll be long gone,face it.paladins are stronger
and about the archangels their resurrection is better than the magma dragon whole,and their dmg,intiative and speed are awesome too their only set back is that they're costy and i know that magmas are stronger than the archies but the archies resurrection is better than the magmas' abilities
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
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The king of Grimheim
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posted August 13, 2007 10:45 AM |
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Let's start from the lvl 3,u can't be possibly comparing they amazing allies defenders aka : squires to the sucky bear riders,can u???
I know that the riders have better stats in almost everything but squires' ability is alot more useful than riders abilities,for 1 thing it makes ur rune patriarchs toatly useless...
And about the lvl 6....u must be kidding,Why can't u just accept the fact that paladins are the strongest lvl 6 and probably the strongest units in game????just cause u love fortress so much that doesn't mean that everything in fortress has to be the toughest...U can't imagine how much i love dungeen...but i still have to accept that some of dungeon's units become useless at late game and the low growth really sucks,and the frikkin useless minotaurs who can't stand a one attack...
Now,back to the topic,the paladins Vs Warlords..i'll give u the benefit of a medicore map and say that the haven player trains 3 paladins weekly,now the paladins will probably start first since they have 1 higher intiative the paladins will have 3 units more than warlords for every week (maybe not every week since the haven player might not be able to train early...but the paladins will make their attack first and thanx to knights' awesome dmg and the amazing retribution the paladis will hit the warlords and they'll be long gone,face it.paladins are stronger
and about the archangels their resurrection is better than the magma dragon whole,and their dmg,intiative and speed are awesome too their only set back is that they're costy and i know that magmas are stronger than the archies but the archies resurrection is better than the magmas' abilities
you're a haterIf paladins are the strongest ,can they destroy the army of the enemy in one single blow 
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 13, 2007 10:52 AM |
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If paladins are the strongest,can they destroy the army of the enemy in one single blow
They can't resurrect Golems either, but that does not mean that the Master Gremlin is a better creature than the Paladin ...
Can Warlords dispel an enemy Puppet Master on one of your stacks? ...
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
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posted August 13, 2007 10:58 AM |
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omg,you can't imagen what strategy i have figured out 4 academy
Get the marbrle gargoles,and the obsd.g. near the enemy,and cast fireball,the fireballs damage will resurect the obsd.golems easliy
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ismail222
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The Cataclysm
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posted August 13, 2007 11:26 AM |
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you're a haterIf paladins are the strongest,can they destroy the army of the enemy in one single blow
OMG!! u quoted all that for just 1 line?????do u ever use the backspace button??do u find it on ur keyboard? (i'll stop )
And a skilled player's army will never be destroyed in one attack,rofl we're talking about experinced players
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ismail222
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The Cataclysm
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posted August 13, 2007 11:29 AM |
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If paladins are the strongest,can they destroy the army of the enemy in one single blow
They can't resurrect Golems either, but that does not mean that the Master Gremlin is a better creature than the Paladin ...
Can Warlords dispel an enemy Puppet Master on one of your stacks? ...
U proof an amazing point here well done 
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Azagal
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Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 13, 2007 11:52 AM |
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Listen Lizy i know this may be hard for you but you have to be strong now. Ismail222 is right! the warlord is !NOT! a better tier 6 than the paladin. This has nothing to do with :"you are a hater" nooo its a simple FACT. You allways talk about "destroying an army with one strike" that is playing vs. AI on easy or less skilled players. Nobody in his right mind will place his units next to each other vs. Fortress!!Ok its imposible not to place ALL next to each other so the chainlightning thing will have some effect. But Paladins vs. Thanes... it is the Paladins who win face it!!
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted August 13, 2007 12:02 PM |
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Listen Lizy i know this may be hard for you but you have to be strong now. Ismail222 is right! the warlord is !NOT! a better tier 6 than the paladin. This has nothing to do with :"you are a hater" nooo its a simple FACT. You allways talk about "destroying an army with one strike" that is playing vs. AI on easy or less skilled players. Nobody in his right mind will place his units next to each other vs. Fortress!!Ok its imposible not to place ALL next to each other so the chainlightning thing will have some effect. But Paladins vs. Thanes... it is the Paladins who win face it!!
Yayx!thanx for ur support *bows*
and please call me ismail u dun have to right the triple twos
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LiZaRdMeN
Disgraceful
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The king of Grimheim
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posted August 13, 2007 12:15 PM |
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Listen Lizy i know this may be hard for you but you have to be strong now. Ismail222 is right! the warlord is !NOT! a better tier 6 than the paladin. This has nothing to do with :"you are a hater" nooo its a simple FACT. You allways talk about "destroying an army with one strike" that is playing vs. AI on easy or less skilled players. Nobody in his right mind will place his units next to each other vs. Fortress!!Ok its imposible not to place ALL next to each other so the chainlightning thing will have some effect. But Paladins vs. Thanes... it is the Paladins who win face it!!
perhaps they'l win face 1 on 1,but can they destroy a army in a single strike
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Homer171
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 13, 2007 12:16 PM |
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What a war-zone
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ismail222
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The Cataclysm
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posted August 13, 2007 12:32 PM |
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What a war-zone
roflmao
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 13, 2007 01:52 PM |
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perhaps they'l win face 1 on 1,but can they destroy a army in a single strike
Yes ... if it's a one-peasant army. 
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted August 13, 2007 02:12 PM |
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Hahaha This thread has taken a good turn 
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Orfinn
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Werewolf Duke
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posted August 13, 2007 02:20 PM |
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Warlords are great and sure can bet that trashcan on a horse anytime in a pure 1-on-1 duel! The warlord is just though thing to pierce.
Jousting...bah!
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 13, 2007 03:15 PM |
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Nothing to thank me for Ismail its a fact. Atleast for most of us. Anyway jaaaa this thread has kind of turned a little bit off topic but certain things had to be said no matter how hard they may be to accept for certain people. I mean its really hard for me to accept that the thane afterall is and allways will be the best tier 6 in Heroes (please notice the irony in this sentence)
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