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Thread: Which units will you choose while playing your favourite faction in TotE? This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV / NEXT»
Deathy
Deathy


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Angels Galore
posted August 13, 2007 04:10 PM

lol it truly shows that Lizardmen has NEVER played against real players or at most like one or two games against some new players

but im not gonna start ruining a perfectly good topic so ill stop here ^^
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted August 13, 2007 04:16 PM

Well, not everyone has to be a hard core player all the time, and some people like to have fun.

The question is pretty fun, which creatures will you enjoy using in the expansion?

So I think we should stick to that and leave 'strength' discussions out of it.

Right now I'm interested in using the Sylvan alternates.  Ressurecting trees with sprites seems pretty fun, and in general I like the blue/frost theme.

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Abarmot
Abarmot

Tavern Dweller
Russian Spy
posted August 13, 2007 06:56 PM

I have no favorite faction so i'll post for all of them although i DO have some weak factions.

Academy:
Gremlin Sabotuer (awesome stats! 20 pop. and sabotage!)
Marble Gargoyle (im an armageddon kind of guy)
Obsidian Golem (awesome specials and 9 initiative for a golem)
Arch Mage (no question)
Djinn Vizier (i dont like djinns so much so i rather them help me)
Rakshasa Kshtari ( more offense, my style)
Storm Lord (i dont even like them AND theyre practically the same thing)
My review: Looks like i love Academy alts

Dungeon:
Stalker (they're awesome.period.)
Blood Furies (high initiative)
A tough one, i'd say the minataur guards. (how come everyone forgeting double attack?)
Black Riders (again, more offebsive)
Deep Hydra (regenerate and better stats)
Shadow Mistress (better stats, invisibility)
Red Dragons (incinerate and they probably cost less)
My review: im again happy with the alts

Haven: (one of my weaker factions)
Enforcer (no doubt)
Crossbowman (that was a tough one)
Vindicator (its at least less defensive)
For now Imperial Griffin (depends what new spec does)
Zealot (more offensive
Champion (i dunno why)
Fallen Angel (most offensive creature in the game)
My review: Go renegades!

Inferno:
Quasit (better stats)
Horned Overseers (leapers will get killed so easily)
Cerberus (better damage)
Sucubbus Mistress (chain shots pays off)
Nightmare (for the initiative)
Pit Spawn (awesome, just needs more initiave.
Arch Devil (to summon pit lords and quasits will help them out)
My review: i like the regular upgrades more for once.

Fortress: (another of my weaker factions)
Stone Defender (stats)
Skirmisher (why would you need to harpoon them CLOSER to you)
White Bear Rider (that was a tought one)
Berserker (berserk)
Rune Monk (go santa)
Warlord (yes, warlord)
Magma Dragon (obvioulsly)
My review: the alts are good, but the upgrades prove useful

Necropolis:
Skeleton Warrior (follow the heroes 3 path)
Disease Zombie (the spec)
Poltergiest (better stats and ammo steal)
Nosfertatu (new spec)
Lich Master (raise dead would be useful!)
Wraith (stats)
Horror Dragon (preety even tho)
My review: the only upgrade i like are wraiths!

Sylvan:
Dryad (helps ents)
Blade Singer (better stats, agility.)
Sharpshooter (the ultimate archer)
Druid Elder (spells are better)
Silver Unicorn (i hate light magic and better stats)
Anger Treant (wow, an offensive tree! Go rage of the forest!)
Sapphire Dragon (costs less and the spec)
My review: Like the alts better overall.

I will edit this when Stronghold comes out and i get to play all the creatures)
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Mystic_Genie
Mystic_Genie


Adventuring Hero
posted August 13, 2007 09:20 PM

Here is my choice of acadamy:

1)Master gremlins(beter alility)
2)Obsidian gargoils(iven with the abilitys marbels are stil no atackers)
3)Obsidian golems(imagine puting them next to every frendly creature and cast armaghedon )
4)Arch mage(to weack spels for eleredict aura to be useful)
5)Djin vizier(god luck charm)
6)Rakshasa Raja(i stil licke no retal beter)
7)Titan(no coment)

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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 13, 2007 10:24 PM
Edited by LiZaRdMeN at 09:23, 24 Aug 2007.

Fortress:
1.Shieldguards-shield wall make them anti level 5-7
2.Skirmisher-have no melee penalty,and awesome ability
3.Blackbears-desaster for paladins
4.Battlerager-more hp,usefull abilityes,bash is quite need for them
5.Tough one indeed,rune patriarchs crossfire is usefull,avenging flame sounds awesome,but I'l choose patriarchs.Firewall with combination with magmas near the shooters is so awesome
6.Thunder thanes,theyre cooler,and theyr abilitys are cool.By the way Flamestrike can't possible  be that which is described at the site
7.Magmas-magama shield,fire breath,more def. and hp.
Conclusion:nice alts.,the coolest looking alts for now, my favorite has the coolest looking alternatives

Sylvan:
1.Dryads-treant union is coll,46 dryads can ressurect one ancient treant.
2.Bladesinger-altrough expensive,agility is really worth it,higher stats-better than the other upgrade
3.Sharpshooters-no expalnation needed
4.High druid -Power feed is needed
5.White unicorns-more hp,awesome damage,and bond of light is perfect against Haven.
6.When having stand your ground ,high level ranger[with teleport assault],and large numbers of Ancient treants,the enemy is doomed.Altrough rage of the forest is cool I'l toss a coin.
7.Sapphire dragon-no explanation needed!
Conclusion-very powerfull alternative upgrades


Inferno:
1.Quasit-higher stats.
2.Leapers-leap is awesome  and makes the leaper more dynamic and faster than the slow horned oveersers.
3.Firebreather-the demon can efect 6 creatures-that's awesome.
4.Tempress-seduce is usefull
5.Hellmare-searing aura is  very powerfull.
6.Pitspawns-higher atack,defence,speed,more hp,aesome ability,and for adition-magic proof 50%.
7.Archdevils-summon pitlords is usefull,when you're loosing
Conclusion:nice alts.

Necropolis :
1.Skeleton warrior-look cooler,have the needed large shield for aditon-magic proof 25% and higher defence.
2.I don't use zombies to store the risen skeletons.
3.Poltergeist-higher stats and awesome ability!
4.vamplord-no retal.
5.Lichmaster-they have higher stats and raise dead
6.Wraith-banshees are weak
7.Horror dragon-sorrow strike.
Conclusion:very powerfull alts.

Academy:
1.Master gremlin-repair is awesome.
2.Marble gargs.-awesome def.
3.Obsidian golem-This golems with marble gargoyles=resurrect golems
4.Combat mage-eldritch aura will be cool
5.Djinn sultan-luck gambler stink
6.raja,because of no retal
7.Titans-no expl.needed
Conclusion-not very powerfull alts

Haven-I welcome you to HC,but fallen angels will not be named blood angels ,they'le be casters with dvine vengeance and mighteos right

Dungeon:
1>Stalker-higher stats and awesome ability.
2.Blood furies-more initiative.
3.captain-aura of brave is very usefull against necros,and have higher stats.
4.Black riders-more ofensive!
5>Acidic hydra-acid blood can damag several units you know.
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ismail222
ismail222


Known Hero
The Cataclysm
posted August 13, 2007 10:53 PM

U made all that post for just to add the conclusions??
Well,IMO this is a spam post and it's kinda useless (no offence)
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Tenaka
Tenaka


Famous Hero
Makes sense
posted August 14, 2007 12:16 AM

Yeah, well, I'm not sure if it's classified under 'spam', but I have to admit that I think it's a bit useless, making an entire new post for just one line conclusion with each faction...
I'd suggest you delete this post and edit the conclusions into the first post. (If you don't know how to delete or edit a post, HCM me)

And for Christ's sake, Lizardmen, stop saying Haven is terrible if you can't bring any constructive proof...
It's getting annoying...
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 15, 2007 04:46 PM

Quote:
You're both pretty much picking a fight right now...
And that's off-topic...Discuss it in the 'fortress overpowered' thread if you must.
Although I have to say, Lizardmen, some of your choices are a bit strange...
And of course, everyone ignores my post...


Strange, what do you mean strange.I have choosen the strongest units

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Tenaka
Tenaka


Famous Hero
Makes sense
posted August 15, 2007 07:31 PM

*rolls eyes*
Do you actually read all the answers to your posts? Just because they seem good on paper, doesn't mean they'll do it in the game...

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted August 15, 2007 09:57 PM

LiZaRdMeN > I will post this to you as an open letter because I have come to the conclusion that you neither read private messages on your own innitiative nor follow requests to do so.

As a Moderator of the forum, I have several times addressed your posting policy, and I have during the last days come to the conclusion that you still post here at a very high rate without caring whether your messages contribute anything useful to the other people of the forum. That for me classifies as spamming. It has also come to my attention that a large number of forumers feel very annoyed by your behavior, which you have not changed in spite of numerous requests to do so, not only from other users, but also from me on behalf of the moderator team of this forum. That in my eyes is behaving contrary to the Code Of Conduct, which states that you should behave respectful to the other forumers.

This will be my last warning to you to change your behaviour. Post less, and with higher quality. If you state your oppinion, explain to the other forumers why you feel that way, otherwise, it's useless to them. Read the Code Of Conduct of this community to further learn what's expected of you. If you fail to change your behavior, I will bring this to the attention of the Moderator group of the Community, so that an appropriate solution to the problem can be found.
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Martynas
Martynas

Tavern Dweller
posted August 16, 2007 02:17 PM

This is my first post so if I am doing something wrong, please tell me

Ok. Lets see. My favourite faction is fortress:

1. Stone defender looks very cool, but i dont know what the abilitie hold ground do.....so in that case i choose shieldguard (if you have preperation ability and the theirs ability shield wall) always defend and pull back and defend. with the rune of berseking it would be nicer to defend so I choose shieldguard (man, if he had the look of the stone defender )
2. Why do the shooter need to help the enemy get closer to him? Spearwielder with cripling wound and run of thunderclap is better! dwarf good at defend with heroes preparation ability (ofcourse if enemy seems to be stronger)
3. Again why this guy must look so cool? I think thar black bear riders ability is better. combine it with right runes
4. They both look weird and they both do not fit for lever 4 creatures. Theirs stats weak (bersekers ability leaves without defence only rune of incorporel may save them)
5. If choose the armagedon strategie the keaper is better, but if not the patriarch ( the look is better nonupgrated version ) crossfire is cool + rune of thunderclap
6. I realy didnt understand if Thunder Thane do the same damage like warlord (with lightning strike) so I need to know if flamestrike = lightning strike. If not i vote for warlords. So again why the alternative upgrade look so cool but the abilities not good. ofcourse fo armagedon strategie imunity to fire is good but you can always get the imunity with the rune
7. Magma dragon (their magma shield is too good )but, imagine if you hit several enemies surounding lava dragon with the rune of the battle rage it will be plenty of fire walls it might be cool so I didn't realy what dragon to prefer - lava or magma

P.S. looks like 5, 6, 7 alternatives are made for armagedon strategie but it can be achieved with the rune o magical imunitie So the old fortress creatures seems to be better (oh, if they had the looks of alternatives )
P.S.S. By the way I hope that Haven wouldn't have the renegades it would be boring, because we know renagades already, and they are not knew  
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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted August 16, 2007 03:10 PM

Quote:
Stone defender looks very cool, but i dont know what the abilitie hold ground do.....


I think the abilities of the upcoming alternative units are pretty much explained here - don't know if you've read that.
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martynas
martynas

Tavern Dweller
posted August 16, 2007 04:04 PM

I read it but there are not explained hold ground ability the stone defender does not move he receivs 5 defence - prepere position

And I asked about thunder thane damage, without the same as storm strike (warlords) their damage are weak

all the others abilities I alreday know


P.S. If you want me to tell that I only listed abilities, and my post is a spam - then I am sory

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Tenaka
Tenaka


Famous Hero
Makes sense
posted August 16, 2007 05:43 PM
Edited by Tenaka at 17:44, 16 Aug 2007.

Well, as long as Alcibiades doesn't PM you, you're safe.
And in my opnion, you posted your opinion in a good, constructive way. (Maybe an overkill of smilies a bit, but that's just my opinion) Lizardmen got a public warning just because he kept repeating the same things over and over again. (Or at least I think so...GMod's mysterious ways are incemprehensible to us mere members. )

I'm still a bit of a newbie on this foru myself, but I'd say you're doing pretty good.

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted August 16, 2007 06:30 PM

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Amen.

No, don't wory, your post was perfectly fine. I only come after you if you post overly much without really saying anything.
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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted August 16, 2007 08:17 PM

This is my first time posting too, hope its not too off topic to say hello to everyone!

Anyway i think that the acedemy alternatives look great the master gremlins seem better if you plan on a rush strategy and creeping but the sabatoge looks interesting if your planning on actually countering rushing.(especially from deleb)

Gargoyles are very interesting. id go with the marble ones if im not up against dungeon. too much of a risk if your against someone who uses destruction

The steel golems look generally better if you have a few skills to improve them (march of the golems,artificial glory and any others i may not know of) but the other ones look perfect for an armegeddon strategy

archmages seem better. fireball can be really great.i havent seen what eldritch aura does so i may change my mind.

djinni viziers seem better.especially if you manage a slow or two on the right units

cant really say for the rahkashas.

storm titans if you have them in huge numbers to render shooters useless (im thinking 40+ titans here!)but the normal ones otherwise.

anyway looks very interesting. seems to vary heavily on the factors of how long the game has gone on and if your playing someone who uses destruction or not (or if your using it in fact)

hope this wasnt too long!

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted August 16, 2007 11:42 PM

Welcome roy-algriffin No worries that is the place for discussion so length or relativity issues may not matter much Of course better to be on topic but there is room for everything.
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LiZaRdMeN
LiZaRdMeN


Disgraceful
Known Hero
The king of Grimheim
posted August 17, 2007 09:15 AM

[Why does everybody hate FortressRunes make them perfect against haven,Inferno and so,soso

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martynas
martynas

Tavern Dweller
posted August 17, 2007 09:25 AM

I like fortres, it's my favorite faction.

But, this faction is also beatable by haven, inferno and the others factions. The whole game depands on luck!

So it's not wise to say, that one faction is overpowering, maybe yuo are not as good player as you think, thats all

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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted August 17, 2007 09:33 AM

Quote:
Why does everybody hate Fortress


Not everyone hates Fortress i just don't like them be called the best town in the game when there aren't one.
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