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| Thread: What is the Artifact Set that you are most eager to see it's bonus in TotE? |  This thread is pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV |
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alcibiades
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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted August 20, 2007 12:03 AM |
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without cleansing, even the most powerful army means less than nothing. Without any means of buffing, your creatures are automatically worthless compared to (buffed) creatures of your opponent.
Hit'n'run is annoying, yes, and most of the good dungeon players don't need it, but it is the only way of winning in lategame, not that you can't win earlier but it's sad to see that you now can't win after a certain ammount of time.
Yes, that brings us back to the matter of old case of cleansing for factions without Light Magic affinity ... I think we've discussed that before on occasions, but I still wonder whether one could come up with some system to balance those mass buffs a bit better, particularly when Might heroes with poor caster stats like Knights use them ...
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted August 20, 2007 12:18 AM |
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without cleansing, even the most powerful army means less than nothing. Without any means of buffing, your creatures are automatically worthless compared to (buffed) creatures of your opponent.
Hit'n'run is annoying, yes, and most of the good dungeon players don't need it, but it is the only way of winning in lategame, not that you can't win earlier but it's sad to see that you now can't win after a certain ammount of time.
Well,Atleast dungeon will have best creeping ever,since u'll be able to enter battle with stalkers only and kill the creeps with the hero while stalkers are invisible.
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted August 20, 2007 02:59 AM |
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not neccasarily. we dont exactly know how it works. maybe you cant do it with only one unit on the battlefield (which would be fair) or some other limitation.
by the way doesnt banish basically unsummon ALL stacks? what would the point of a boost for that be? getting through last stand?
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted August 20, 2007 03:26 AM |
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not neccasarily. we dont exactly know how it works. maybe you cant do it with only one unit on the battlefield (which would be fair) or some other limitation.
by the way doesnt banish basically unsummon ALL stacks? what would the point of a boost for that be? getting through last stand?
Yes,I thought about that,and if that was true then am not gonna play dungeon anymore xD
Or maybe u can get 2 stacks 1 stalker and 1 scout,hide the stalker and let the scout die and u kill ur enemies with the hero 
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted August 20, 2007 05:01 AM |
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at the point when you honestly can beat a mob in 3 turns you can probably just use hydras as tanks anyway and get zero losses. or that youd get zero losses anyway (well unless your facing shooters. that might be different)
Anyway i wouldnt do this except really early on anyway because if dungeon uses this strategy a lot you WILL get rushed..even by haven
anyway this is getting off topic. i wonder is mask of the doppleganger will have an effect on the hero or units? will it help invisible units?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 20, 2007 06:16 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 06:18, 20 Aug 2007.
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Banish doesn't unsummon all gated/conjured units it just unsummons a part of them.
Any why would that tree born quiver thing be overpowered if it gives you more shots ? I mean ammocart gives you infinite shots (until it breaks ok but i wouldn't want to waste a turn attacking it). And unless you have an armageddon with some decent dmg i don't see how you'll manage to break if without practically loosing a turn with a unit. Besides aren't the battels pretty much allready decided before your shooters run out of shots...?
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Locke16k
Hired Hero
Iepurasul de Pasti
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posted August 20, 2007 11:15 AM |
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Any why would that tree born quiver thing be overpowered if it gives you more shots? I mean ammocart gives you infinite
Thats the thing it doesn't gives U more shots like the ammo cart instead it gives one extra shot so ranged units can shoot twice (something like Sylvanas Archers)
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ismail222
Known Hero
The Cataclysm
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posted August 20, 2007 08:42 PM |
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at the point when you honestly can beat a mob in 3 turns you can probably just use hydras as tanks anyway and get zero losses.
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Nah,sinitar can defeat mobs in 3 turns very early actually,and the usual hydras still die,u have to get deep hydras first which kinda needs some crystals.
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The_Gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted August 20, 2007 08:58 PM |
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At this point I don't care as long as they're not stupid overpowered the way they were in H3 SoD
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted August 20, 2007 11:16 PM |
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i dont like the idea of a common artifact giving you a double shot. maybe in campaign but isnt it a bit overpowered in multiplayer (no range penalty for titans and double shot=100-140 damage per titan at any range?)i honestly think thats a bit scary..not to mention you can have luck
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 20, 2007 11:32 PM |
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I think the uberness is the point: You strive for it, and you recieve.
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The_Gootch
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Kneel Before Me Sons of HC!!
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posted August 20, 2007 11:34 PM |
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Then give us the ability to disable combos for multi.
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roy-algriffin
Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
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posted August 21, 2007 12:26 AM |
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i dont know if striving is the word here..maybe nearly commiting suicide with 14 heros is a better thing to say? i can easily see people paying 50,000 gold for an artifact that doubles a ranged units damage like that! (or one and half again for the hunters)
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espen15
Famous Hero
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posted June 16, 2008 05:26 PM |
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Nice! With the partial bonuses we'll be able to get even a minor extra bonus in most games
i donīt think that all dragon artifacts give a minor bonus to a hero i think its the one key to win the game .
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