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Thread: ToE pages on AoH: creatures and more! This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
dschingi
dschingi


Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted September 27, 2007 10:21 PM

I thought it might be a good idea to throw in some questions, for whoever may answer them. Most things are related to creature abilities for now.

-Blade of Slaughter: Deals additional damage to each creature in target stack (+2 damage per creature).
So you can kill 2/3 of any peasant stack with only one Pit Spawn? Or is it related to the number of Pit Spawns?
-Seduction: Can it be blocked by magic resistance?
-Can sacrificed, swallowed and thrown goblins be resurrected?
-Can neutral Goblins defect to your army and stay with you after the battle, too?

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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2007 10:39 PM

^ I tough of the same things earlier..

Blade of Slaughter sounds like it would do just that. Earlier it said it does more damage how many creatures are in enemy stacks so i resume it will kill 2/3 of any Peasant/Goblin stack.

I don't think you can resurrect Goblins and if you could you don't have magic abilities to do that.
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dschingi
dschingi


Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted September 27, 2007 10:42 PM

There is still the first aid tent for doing that...

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Neckie
Neckie


Hired Hero
posted September 27, 2007 11:19 PM
Edited by Neckie at 23:22, 27 Sep 2007.

some ingame pics of alternative upgrades :
the model files of the rainbow dragon are named hameleon dragon... new name?!



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Homer171
Homer171


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2007 11:22 PM
Edited by Homer171 at 23:24, 27 Sep 2007.

Oh yeah. Well i still think they are all "sacrificed" creatures and cannot be resurrected. Either way they aren't nothing more than cannon fodders to me. 10 gold for ammunition to my Cyclops sounds good to me

Nice pics
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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 28, 2007 12:06 AM
Edited by sfidanza at 00:15, 28 Sep 2007.

The spells pages are ready. See first post.

Good questions, dschingi, it will need some testing to get those answers.
Neckie, nice pictures! I checked that the creatures stats were not in the demo, but I didn't check the textures. Indeed, they left some of them inside!! By the way, the Rainbow Dragon official name is "Crystal Dragon" (also left in data.pak).

Edit: other name changes are (like textures, not all names are in the demo)
Academy: Storm Lord -> Storm Titan
Dungeon: Acidic Hydra -> Foul hydra
Fortress: Warlord -> Flame Lord (this is the classic update, not alternate)

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted September 28, 2007 12:12 AM

Quote:

-Can sacrificed, swallowed and thrown goblins be resurrected?
-Can neutral Goblins defect to your army and stay with you after the battle, too?



I think they could be ressurected, but only if you've got the spell.  Can barbarians use the tomes of magic?

I highly doubt neutral goblins will stay with you after they have defected.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted September 28, 2007 12:27 AM
Edited by yasmiel at 00:34, 28 Sep 2007.

Quote:
The spells pages are ready. See first post.

Good questions, dschingi, it will need some testing to get those answers.
Neckie, nice pictures! I checked that the creatures stats were not in the demo, but I didn't check the textures. Indeed, they left some of them inside!! By the way, the Rainbow Dragon official name is "Crystal Dragon" (also left in data.pak).

Edit: other name changes are (like textures, not all names are in the demo)
Academy: Storm Lord -> Storm Titan
Dungeon: Acidic Hydra -> Foul hydra
Fortress: Warlord -> Flame Lord (this is the classic update, not alternate)


Storm Titan? And classic upgrade is still Titan?
Hem.....
And i see there are no new spells aside those which we dug out of HoF files.

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Daystar
Daystar


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
posted September 28, 2007 01:57 AM
Edited by Daystar at 02:20, 28 Sep 2007.

Neckie, where you find them?!?!??!

Here are some creature pics for AOH pages.


Goblin Witch Doctor


Centaur Marauder


Wyvern.

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sfidanza
sfidanza


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 28, 2007 02:21 AM

The page about Blood Rage is now ready:
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/ability_bloodrage.shtml
I used the occasion to update the other racial pages, which was long due (they're updated to 2.1 data, though), and publish the Runelore page as well.
All links are in the first post.

Quote:
And i see there are no new spells aside those which we dug out of HoF files.

No there are not. But they don't all exactly work like it was believed.

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Fofa
Fofa


Famous Hero
Famous? Me?!
posted September 28, 2007 03:42 AM

I'm interested in seeing the buildings next. Now I'm quite excited for TotE to come out.
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Neckie
Neckie


Hired Hero
posted September 28, 2007 03:50 AM

@Daystar I saw the model and animations of some of the alternate creatures located in the /Characters/Creatures/ folders. No stats for them though... we only got models. You can see their name/desc/abilities in Text\Game\Creatures.

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Radox
Radox


Known Hero
posted September 28, 2007 07:19 AM

There are no new spells! NO NEW SPELLS! Hope Nival have included some extra spells in the final release, or we will lynch them!!! What's the point of having Sorrow and not having Mirth???

The only think I like about the new spell system is that Fireball is moved now to Destructive...

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roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted September 28, 2007 08:16 AM

Quote:


-Blade of Slaughter: Deals additional damage to each creature in target stack (+2 damage per creature).
So you can kill 2/3 of any peasant stack with only one Pit Spawn? Or is it related to the number of Pit Spawns?
-Seduction: Can it be blocked by magic resistance?
-Can sacrificed, swallowed and thrown goblins be resurrected?
-Can neutral Goblins defect to your army and stay with you after the battle, too?



You deal normal damage then you deal 2 damage for each unit in the enemy stack independently for example 10 pit spawn vs 100 peasents, pits spawns each have 20 damage for the sake of explanation you do 200 damage to peasents +100 for blade of slaughter

seduction- Yes i believe so , you cant seduce other succubi so i think the answer is yes

-Probably not, since you dont have magic. but if you went to the tavern and got a hero(dunno if thats even possible) of another faction (external tavern, one inside city is orc heroes only) and got the ressurection spell you probably could

As for the last one i have no idea but i think if your vastly superior to them theyd join the normal way
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Lord_Evil
Lord_Evil


Famous Hero
Evil lolcat
posted September 28, 2007 10:19 AM
Edited by Lord_Evil at 10:49, 28 Sep 2007.

Quote:
At first sight into the demo, there are great new features already!!

- Mixed armies with threat assessment



- Kingdom Overview



Note: the creature abilities page was indeed bugged. It's fixed now, thanks for noticing.

is thet means thet the sircel under the creatures is cheingd to this?!

or is this sircel only when there are creatures in the creature army?

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 28, 2007 10:19 AM

Is it me, or is the Vermin much better than the Familair? When comparing them, the Vermin has +1 DEF and +1 Speed and its damage range is 1-4 instead of 2-3 (which averages to the same). All other stats are the same, they cost the same, but they drain twice as much mana through their special ability.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted September 28, 2007 10:25 AM

yes, but the hero doesn't benefit from it.

As plain manasuckers, they will give hell to any castle that is cleansing-based

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 28, 2007 11:20 AM

Regardless of whether the Hero who owns them benefits from it, the enemy Hero facing them sees twice the drain in mana. That alone would be reason enough for me to go for the Vermin instead of Familairs.

Actually, I don't think I've ever considered the Familair ability to be useful to supplement my Hero's own mana, but rather to drain the enemy's Hero's mana.

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radar
radar


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
posted September 28, 2007 11:44 AM

Divine Vengeance icon looks like it was drawn with crayons... I like the HoF icon better...

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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted September 28, 2007 02:50 PM

At the request of Sfidanza and in an attempt to cause minimal confusion by having multiple topics covering the same or almost the same subjects, I'll close down this thread for now, and ask that further discussion is moved to this general TotE Demo topic. I'll move the information from the masterpost of this topic to the masterpost of the TotE Demo thread, and anybody who want to repost their posts and/or pictures in the other thread can go ahead and do so.
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