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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted June 29, 2008 03:33 AM

I'm not very familiar with the hard mode yet, but do you know if the AI has some kind of advantages over human players?

and I saw a weird thing. an AI, deirdre level 16 attacked between 20 to 50 poisonous wyverns with 157 skeletons, about 110 zombies, 48 ghosts, 3 lichs, 4 wights, 25 white bear raiders and 51 centaurs. all he lost was like 10 zombies (I know it because I tried to attack it before and after this fight) whereas the centaurs were by far the most obvious target : shooter, weak, hard to protect, no bloodrage, not immune to poison. seriously, it looked like the AI made the wandering army fight in the dumbest possible way to help his hero winning.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted June 29, 2008 05:15 AM

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And is there a way to play as campaign Heroes in a custum game?


If you open the map in the map editor you select view-map properties.  In that menu you go to the heroes tab and hit check all (I do this for artifacts and spells also, for maps made before ToTE).  Save and exit.

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Mytical
Mytical


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Chaos seeking Harmony
posted June 29, 2008 06:26 AM

Or check the mod forum.  They have a mod that allows access to 48 different heroes, including the campain ones.
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enderwiggin
enderwiggin

Tavern Dweller
posted June 29, 2008 08:52 AM

I have the tribes of the east expansion and it doesn't come with the map editor whats up with that?

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2008 09:47 AM

Check the bin folder in the game directory.
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winterfate
winterfate


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posted June 29, 2008 09:48 AM
Edited by winterfate at 09:49, 29 Jun 2008.

@enderwiggin: It should be in your bin folder where you installed the game.

EDIT: Elvin beat me to it!

@Fauch: Yup. It cheats to beat stacks it shouldn't be able to beat, and it also has "free diplomacy" (neutral stacks are more likely to join that hero, even if the hero doesn't have the Diplomacy skill from Leadership)

Did I mention that it constructs buildings/hires units at a discount?

However, once you gain more experience playing the game, even all of these advantages aren't enough to save the AI from you.
Then again, that stack of Poisonous Wyverns would've been a piece of cake with the army the AI had, if Deidre had the right spells.
(Also, darned AI habit of mixing and matching factions with abandon. What WAS that hero doing with Centaurs, anyways? )
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Asheera
Asheera


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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
posted June 29, 2008 01:56 PM

Quote:
I'm not very familiar with the hard mode yet, but do you know if the AI has some kind of advantages over human players?

and I saw a weird thing. an AI, deirdre level 16 attacked between 20 to 50 poisonous wyverns with 157 skeletons, about 110 zombies, 48 ghosts, 3 lichs, 4 wights, 25 white bear raiders and 51 centaurs. all he lost was like 10 zombies (I know it because I tried to attack it before and after this fight) whereas the centaurs were by far the most obvious target : shooter, weak, hard to protect, no bloodrage, not immune to poison. seriously, it looked like the AI made the wandering army fight in the dumbest possible way to help his hero winning.

How about the fact that the AI with a Demon Lord WITHOUT Dark Magic (not that the AI abuses creeps, but...) in week 3 attacked 50 Angels (on Dragon Pass) and managed to defeat them... and still had most of its army left (because I had a hard time defeating it).

The AI seems to cheat on neutrals big time, but I don't mind since I like challenges and I don't mind if I lose
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2008 02:08 PM

A human player can do that as well but I doubt that the AI plays as tactically to win
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enderwiggin
enderwiggin

Tavern Dweller
posted June 29, 2008 09:38 PM

I found it thank you.
But the thing is I can't get to see any of the maps only the ones that I created using the random map generator when the game is open.

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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted June 29, 2008 09:50 PM
Edited by Fauch at 21:53, 29 Jun 2008.

I doubt it too. and I don't know if I would have been able to beat the wyverns with such an army (haven't tried such fights yet)
the spells deidre had were animate dead expert (I think, it caused me trouble the 1st time I fought her and banshee howl of course. maybe curse as well)
btw, forgot to mention she had to go through a portal guarded by twice 20 to 50 level 7 creatures. on my side it was bone dragons, no idea what was on the other side. she beat the bone dragons the 3rd week.

anyway I managed to crush the AI army a few time, the only problem is I'm afraid to get too far from my castle. and I have quite a hard time against dark magic (especially puppet master, since I didn't get cleansing in the mage guild (anyway my hero, maeve, only have 20 mana points, so I would rather use them for mass haste + mass slow most of the time) and cavaliers are too expensive to upgrade in paladins and die in every battle before they can do everything. (well, at least during this time the AI doesn't target the crossbowmen who are my main force) the good news is I can buy zealot and I got seal darkness, so I at least have a bit of defense againt dark magic

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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted June 29, 2008 09:55 PM

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I found it thank you.
But the thing is I can't get to see any of the maps only the ones that I created using the random map generator when the game is open.


The ones which come with the game are embedded in the data files.  Read my previous post above to find out how to access them.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted June 29, 2008 10:59 PM

We do not even know if homm 6 is in development atm. Nothing official, just rumours. And it will most definitely not come soon, trust me.
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enderwiggin
enderwiggin

Tavern Dweller
posted June 30, 2008 12:40 AM

that would be cool.
I was thinking that this was probably going to be the last Heroes Of Might and Magic. But hopefully I'm wrong.

Anyways, um, I tinkered with the map editor for a while and when I went to play, I can play fine just when the game starts it only starts on about 3/4 of my screen... any ideas as to why that is?

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winterfate
winterfate


Supreme Hero
Water-marked Champion!
posted June 30, 2008 01:17 AM

@Fauch: Hmm...I see.
Well, it's pretty doable with only Raise Dead...just not my cup of tea.
(I'm a Sylvan/Haven player)
I'm pretty sure that Ghost abusing will go a long way to minimize casualties though.
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted June 30, 2008 11:34 AM
Edited by Fauch at 11:39, 30 Jun 2008.

raise dead with a knight? I don't have it and it will probably be quite bad. and I have only 20 mana, so even if I had phantom image I would probably not cast it.

oh you were talking about deirdre...
don't know what I would do, I guess dark magic could help with the right spells. but losing no creatures seems hard. or maybe destructive, with her 16 power points and an expert meteor shower maybe she could kill a lots of wyverns? (don't know if necromancer have an easy access to destructive)

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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted June 30, 2008 11:39 AM
Edited by Mytical at 11:39, 30 Jun 2008.

Yeah I've seen the AI do some crazy things.  Seen them take huge stacks of Arch Angels out with almost no losses.  Not only necromancers either.   Week 4 at that.  No clue how they did it with so few losses.
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Fauch
Fauch


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 02, 2008 08:29 PM

hum for some reasons they didn't kill the 80 archdemon guarding the hill fort (I didn't either, only killed the 50 untamed cyclops near them)
and I'm loving haven since I have enough gold to buy everything in my castle and train 20 additionnal zealots per week now

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espen15
espen15


Famous Hero
posted July 02, 2008 09:16 PM

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We do not even know if homm 6 is in development atm. Nothing official, just rumours. And it will most definitely not come soon, trust me.
it probably comes in year 2009. well at least i hope so i can´ wait

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Ramsu
Ramsu

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Really pissed off
posted July 06, 2008 06:02 PM

2009... i can't wait so long...
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted July 07, 2008 09:41 AM

You'll probably wait longer, 2009 seems too soon.
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