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NiKitA
Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
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posted April 25, 2008 03:11 AM |
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Stronghold was made to crush the lucky Sylvans.
Don't u think?
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sith_of_ziost
Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
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posted April 25, 2008 03:35 AM |
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Well, I think that Sylvan is the strongest faction due to luck and their ultimate skill.
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NiKitA
Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
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posted April 25, 2008 04:35 AM |
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To my opinion Stronghold and Sylvan are "related"...Barbarians-morale,while Rangers-luck.But my favorite are Barbarians.Do you have any strategies playing Sylvan?(it is my 2nd favorite faction).As for the Stronghold I advance my Atack(tactics+retribution),Leadership,Defence skills.Which bring unexpected begining;offcourse after some Warcries.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted April 26, 2008 09:58 AM |
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If you make some test, beyond 1 years play and each with 8 town from the start/day 1, with ultimate unlocked (so does the path), in this condition, inferno and haven is the strongest, about inferno, count all its army (real+gating), not to mention summon pit lord which can double its lv 6 units (not counting gating), i mean, normally, if you have 10 archdevil then you have 20 pit spawn/lord, then 10 archdevil can make another 20 pit lord, if both trigger swarm gating with urgash call, then their number is instantly quadrupled, imagine if you have 8 castle from the start and play until one year or more. Fast faction is a little problem, but if we ignore random initiative, even sylvan fastest attacker can be easily blocked instantly by gating. As for haven, no need to explain.
Sylvan can be defeated by dwarf, their rune of resurrect is truly insane. And defeating both of them in this test with haven or inferno is easy.
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NiKitA
Famous Hero
Meepo is underrated
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posted April 26, 2008 07:52 PM |
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I see the point,but playing for over a year and having 8 towns isn't common.And everything depends on how good u r plaing one or another faction...For example,Sylvan is great for early dvelopment and Haven is great after a few months of play.Which means playing Haven against Sylvan on a Small or Medium map wouldn't do any favor.Getting a few levels ahead of your anemy is a great advantage!
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HartZa
Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
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posted May 01, 2008 10:14 PM |
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Quote:
If you make some test, beyond 1 years play and each with 8 town from the start/day 1, with ultimate unlocked (so does the path), in this condition, inferno and haven is the strongest, about inferno, count all its army (real+gating), not to mention summon pit lord which can double its lv 6 units (not counting gating), i mean, normally, if you have 10 archdevil then you have 20 pit spawn/lord, then 10 archdevil can make another 20 pit lord, if both trigger swarm gating with urgash call, then their number is instantly quadrupled, imagine if you have 8 castle from the start and play until one year or more. Fast faction is a little problem, but if we ignore random initiative, even sylvan fastest attacker can be easily blocked instantly by gating. As for haven, no need to explain.
Sylvan can be defeated by dwarf, their rune of resurrect is truly insane. And defeating both of them in this test with haven or inferno is easy.
Necropolish can outrun infernos troop numbers ridicously easy in large multi castle maps with RANDOM towns. It doesnt matter which towns u own since u can turn all of them into the undead. Exsample, take Warlords map 1v1 vs necropolish. Both of u have ur own castle +3 random castles. If you wont get inferno castle you wont get more demons from them. Necros can buy priest from haven town and transmute them to liches.
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mvassilev
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 02, 2008 04:01 AM |
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted May 05, 2008 04:05 PM |
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Quote:
Necropolish can outrun infernos troop numbers ridicously easy in large multi castle maps with RANDOM towns. It doesnt matter which towns u own since u can turn all of them into the undead. Exsample, take Warlords map 1v1 vs necropolish. Both of u have ur own castle +3 random castles. If you wont get inferno castle you wont get more demons from them. Necros can buy priest from haven town and transmute them to liches.
I never said that it is random town.
I said that, two player must have 8 or more town of their coresponding faction with all the buildings built and resources enough only to train all the units from 8 town, so if player A is dungeon, he has 8 dungeon town and enough resources to train all creatures from his 8 town.
Last, both player must have ultimate skill, thus also have all the skills needed for it, no other skill beside those.
Speaking about number, Necro overall number will be outnumbered by swarm gating and urgash call, especially if archdevils can summon maximum pit lords (i.e: 20 archdevils must summon 40 pit lords), worst if both the trained pit lords/spawns and the summoned ones trigger swarm gating, it can quadrupled the number of inferno lv 6 creatures. Worst if both has maximum 10 luck and morale, since it can render necro ulti useless, while there is no easy way to render urgash call useless except a lucky strike to the real ones that can eliminate 70% or more of its number before it can gate.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 05, 2008 04:10 PM |
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Execpt when necro take's over the gated pit lords.PUPPET MASTER still exists and we will use it against any.And what are change's that you got cleanese?Little below 0?and with over 8 towns necro's numbers go beyond 1000s
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted May 05, 2008 04:12 PM |
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I only speak about number.
But, indeed, necro best friend to win in this test, is dark magic.
But, once again, i only speak about number in necro case.
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Darkshadow
Legendary Hero
Cerise Princess
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posted May 05, 2008 04:20 PM |
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Well with 8 towns they will have quite large number.And then we have Lichmasters that keep annyoing you with raise dead.And then there are Nosferatus that can put archdevils into sleep.But mostly, necro units themsefls are for support as hero is the main deal with dark magic, Necro units are not supposed to fight enemy so much as the enemy fight itself.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted May 05, 2008 04:26 PM |
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Yup. In order to determine who wil be the winner, there are many things that need to be analyzed. But that is not my point. Still, feel free to discuss it.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted May 08, 2008 04:54 PM |
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That is the most common problem question with tribes expansion.
Elvin you should make a seperate sticky with campaign problems and solutions!
You can summon a boat you just have to stand all the way in the water on the east side of the 3rd castle. You need the talisman from that castle to summon it.
Your English is pretty good.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 08, 2008 05:01 PM |
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It crossed my mind  But I think it would be easier to find the more common questions and add them to the masterpost. Still, call me pessimist but I'm pretty sure that it won't stop people from asking all over again.
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phoenixreborn
Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
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posted May 08, 2008 05:03 PM |
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Pessimist!
No but seriously instead of retyping I could just say look here and post a link. Would work for ubi forum too. We could keep it a small list of most common questions.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 08, 2008 05:08 PM |
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If someone wants to volunteer for that sure but I am not going to look through a 50 pages thread when the alternative only takes a minute to post an answer. It's too time consuming.
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 11, 2008 05:59 PM |
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hi all. after a lot of time of abscence I rejoyned the forum. I have a BIG question. In the last campaign how do I defeat the hero indside the inferno faction. I have Freyda, because with Wulfstan it was easy. But how can I acieve victory with freyda? what boders me is that I have 180 crossbows and he has 580 demon, 123 squire-220 succubus. It is to much. I realised that the magic that you cast on your armies takes some victims from the inferno creatures. In my best fight the inferno hero reamined with 4 pit spawns, which are clearly to much for duncan the second hero. My question would be : WHAT, HOW AND WHEN DO I CAST THE SPELLS?
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 11, 2008 06:00 PM |
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If I had necro It would have been much easier. Let's face it. with Arantir I would have beaten those demons ASAP.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 12, 2008 01:15 PM |
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Easy, just make use of your special. Just cast single light spells as haste and cleansing(when puppeted) and divine vengeance will eventually kill them. I hope you have leveled Freyda instead of Duncan because if not it may be nigh impossible to win.
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted May 12, 2008 07:22 PM |
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how can I win when he castes mass confusion? my armies won't retaliate. In toe you don't play with freyda at all, as long as i remember. So freyda is pretty much what the standard game offers. If I would have divine vengeance it would have been more easy, clearly. I guess I will have to play at the lowest level just so I can pass this fight and of course to see how Biara is defeated. Yes, that is probably the best solution. Of course I am still waitting for solutions.
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