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Elvin
Admirable
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posted June 07, 2009 11:56 AM |
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Haven isn't bad, I have defeated sylvan on numerous occasions but not sure of the overall score. I have deleted most of my replays to keep the good ones, I could upload the sylvan vs haven ones if you wish. Giving sylvan less favoured is a bad idea, then without destructive it would be hell to take down haven. Besides swift mind takes 4 levels which is a lot against haven, you need good survivability and if your power is not enough the game is lost. And if you do act first then the druids have not had time to channel and may be killed/puppeted. And of course haven can always use immunity.
Yesterday after my semifinals games with pera we played another friendly game, academy vs fortress. That was amazing, winning such a game is a feat of endurance. Towards the ending we both made a deadly mistake. Me not resurrecting djinns when the skirmishers were close and pera not covering the dead stack, he would be able to defeat me with direct attacks. His priest trick was praiseworthy, mark of fire killed my forces asap.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
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The One and the Prime
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posted June 09, 2009 11:51 AM |
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Oh yeah, would love to see haven woop sylvan for once, thanks!
especially interested to see when win can be manufactured if paladin/champs get blocked from jousting more than 2 squares on their first turn which kinda may happen when sylvan gets aura or tactics?
Looked thru this thread & could see haven being butt of many jokes (like sylvan slaughter haven)... but hardly ever "I won amazing game with haven blah blah blah" [it's just the way it is I think...]
On your latest replay with Pera, it never ceases to amaze me how some players can perfectly time when to perform certain actions during a battle!
To all the ones posting replays past & present so we can learn: good onya!
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Elvin
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posted June 09, 2009 04:16 PM |
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So you want to see haven defeat sylvan? Granted
The one with Larry is a typical light/might approach from both, haven outlasted the pointy ears. Vs Sq it was during the chaos tournament so all arties/spells were enabled, I tried a light->fire resistance plus armageddon combo alas haven survived with regeneration even if barely. I don't know many factions that could survive this. The game with Tann I aimed for a dark knight with dark renewal so I could act faster after each resistance, it paid off Forced him into defensive making the game a matter of time, bad things was we disconnected before the game was concluded.
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SKPRIMUS
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posted June 11, 2009 07:52 PM |
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Thanks Elvin
After viewing replays & comments by others, I now appreciate the impact of haven choosing defence skill against fast-strike factions like sylvan & inferno.
The armageddon one (love this spell when used unexpectedly) was interesting. It appeared to me that sylvan had aura but haven had -1 enemy movement artifact plus stormwind which prevented first strikes by unihorns, windies & dryers. DG, regen with possible haste option on angels was a good counter when arma power was reduced.
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Elvin
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posted June 11, 2009 08:28 PM |
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What makes you think I was planning to attack haven? Should have guessed though, leaving a hole in my defenses was an open invitation for teleportation.
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fiur
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posted June 15, 2009 07:37 AM |
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you'll find 1 here as well
first clash is the one where haven beats my sylvan...
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
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The One and the Prime
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posted June 18, 2009 06:17 AM |
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Thanks Fiur, I got them from your original post when it was first out. Not many would advertise losses with replays [teleportation actions were confusing to my limited knowledge...]
@Elvin: scratch what I said in my last post regarding aura/movement, how silly of me. Looked thru replays again & can't fathom how armageddon dmg was same on both sides even tho you had light perk fire res & silver unihorns with magic resistance never seemed to activate??? [must look thru original thread later]
I am even steering away from leadership/DG/emp &
may prefer defence + attack with Dougal & Vittorio in situations where levels are not 25+.
[Only looked thru replays again lately...Better late reply than never...]
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veco
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who am I?
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posted June 18, 2009 06:12 PM |
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I was playing on a map named Alundro recently - pretty fun in the begining since creeps are hard but it doesn't last long and soon fight become very easy. So easy I can take anything on with Gremlins and Golems -Click! - jst imagine this happening in a real game
I modified it a little by giving Razzak Preparation at start because I rarely have a chance to use it and that's the only change I made. Logistics popped up and then Leadership making every strategy except Golem abuse redundant
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Elvin
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posted June 21, 2009 05:52 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 15:29, 01 Jul 2009.
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I had forgotten to reply here, that was hilarious Had forgotten that little detail where unlimited retaliation units retaliate twice, painful.
A couple of haven vs sylvan replays, courtesy of Vangelis Actually it's the same battle but in VanHavenVsDesSylvan he had forgotten favoured(though the outcome would be the same after my griffins dived on the druids) so we replayed it on a different ground. Ring of celerity and empathy managed to break his imbued warmachine build in both cases though the second game was a lot closer. Destructive's weakness against haven is that empathy may allow you to destroy ballista or druids first, also that magical immunity completely neutralizes destructive damage. Also ballista may act before hero.
Of course there is also the matter of available spells - fireball without druids sucks - and Vangelis' lack of experience with this build. Imbuing a meteor from the start with rain of arrows and having the ballista do its work exhausts your mana faster than you can imagine.
Edit: Oh yeah they both require Zenithale's arena mod or having the duel map in the map folder to play.
Had a cool game with SKPRIMUS, closest battle I've had in a while. He had less army but insane stats from artifacts, every little detail was crucial and in the end the winner survived with 8hp
http://www.speedyshare.com/816979494.html
Btw my apologies for the typo in the replay name
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SKPRIMUS
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posted July 01, 2009 05:15 PM |
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...typo in the replay name Hehe, what are trying to imply there?<j/k>
After initial pre-game confusion, I was so excited for arties to be so good that I bought one too many - iirc: horsehoe, dragon greaves, dragon ring, dwarf shield (immune to frenzy), runic war axe
{there was even a ring of sar issus that I didn't buy}
that I had left 8 AA, all windies, all except 1 dryer at home!
PLUS guild had haste/regen/RM/immunity/res
{had imba perk battle commander}
Then near battle's end, the tiny stack of REAL familiars were overlooked
Thanks Elvin, I'm no longer an online version...
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Elvin
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posted July 01, 2009 05:31 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 17:32, 01 Jul 2009.
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A shame my swift mind didn't allow me to act before emeralds but that was interesting I think I would have left behind the runic axe and dragon greaves/horseshoe to buy more army. With sylvan I typically buy all army except treants and 2-3 crucial arties, then remaining gold is spent between mentor, more arties or treants. Sometimes 10-15 treants are all you need.
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Matrix4767
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posted July 08, 2009 12:37 AM |
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Can anyone (re)upload their replays with Necropolis or Inferno battles,without the arenamod used(it lags on my game a lot)?
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Warmonger
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fallen artist
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posted July 08, 2009 07:28 AM |
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Looking for recordings of Twilight World when you break huge garrisons early
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Matrix4767
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posted July 08, 2009 10:48 AM |
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Sure,those too.
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godulio
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posted July 31, 2009 12:49 AM |
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Hi Guys. May I ask for couple of good Haven vs Orcs replays? Yesterday I played on Ubi.com on RMG, in final battle we had almoast equal armies ( I was haven, He was Orcs), but he won the battle with like NO losses. I regret I havent't saved it. Still, would like to know effective tactic playing haven against the Orcs.
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Elvin
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posted July 31, 2009 08:58 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 09:22, 31 Jul 2009.
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I could have sword that I had some but can't find them right now. Check this one.
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godulio
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posted July 31, 2009 11:59 PM |
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Yea, that is nice replay. However, in our game bigger armies were involved and he (the barbarian) had ultimate. Many times I saw the discussion whether it pays off to go for ulti, but in case of orcs - 500 pts of rage in the beggining gives your centaurs 14 initiative (maybe he had some rings or stuff) and in the game when first move in deciding, its nearly impossible to win against it.
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godulio
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posted August 16, 2009 01:45 AM |
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Edited by godulio at 01:47, 16 Aug 2009.
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That is a final battle on Ubi.Com, played on RMG ( I am a fan of RMG and i think its best opportunity to check if You're really good) It took place in week 3 month 3, so You can imagine how huge our armies were (and stats as well - me being necro had 53 spellpower (sic!!!))
I played necro and went for the ulti - it was the turning point, my ulti ( i played Deidre - the best hero for this build) combined with arties gave -12 morale and -6 luck. No one can stop that, even mighty orcs!
Of course, Diplomacy (2% chance to get it, and i still made it and herald of death helped too - like 150 grim raiders joining You for 100k gold and being turned instantly into 150 Vampire Princes! And it happend couple of times..
I am no strategy master, so I made couple of silly mistakes in the battle, as my opponent did. I am much better in economy and gathering armies than in playing battles. All in all though, I think it's a decent replay, with the underlying story behind it. Enjoy!
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted August 16, 2009 05:47 AM |
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Woaw... that were a lot of units oO. Eventhough I'm pretty sure you could have knocked him out with the vampires alone lol. Well the orc player didn't really stand a chance considering the insane ammount of units he was facing (with his in comparrison small army).
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godulio
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posted August 16, 2009 10:13 AM |
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Edited by godulio at 10:16, 16 Aug 2009.
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Well, he had huge advantage in attack and defense stats, and because i went for ulti & herald of death build I had to skip attack and defense skills as well, that altogether meaning that he had HUGE advantage in terms of endurance & damage dealing, which I intended to offset by numbers. I managed, even though I am not sure it would have been possible without Howl of Terror.
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